Thanos VS Phantom Stranger

Originally posted by tjcoady
I've read every issue of Gaiman's prelude series and Tim's two solo series. AND the non-canon Life During Wartime. And the Hellblazer crossover, books of Faeire, Children's Crusade, Mr. E, the single issue Mike Carey run of Hellblazer that Tim shows up in, Trenchcoat Brigade.

That's all of Tim's appearances. Phantom Stranger only shows up twice in interacting with Tim, and twice more in a Hunter-related book.

How exactly do you come to the conclusion that the Stranger is more powerful than Tim Hunter?

On another note:

that's the Phantom Stranger getting decked by Terry Thirteen.

TERRY FREAKING THIRTEEN.

In Ostrander's Spectre, he got wrecked more easily by the merged Spectre/Eclipso than Zatanna, Dr. Fate, or Etrigan. He's been beaten by Dr. Fate and Eclipso before as well.

I'm tired of the "Spectre couldn't destroy Phantom Stranger, so that means he's uber-powerful" logic. The Spectre can't destroy anything that has a necessary function within the Cosmos. He couldn't destroy Darkseid either. That doesn't necessarily prove that Darkseid is too powerful for the Spectre to face. The Phantom Stranger has a mission from the Presence, or God, and as such, couldn't be fully killed by the Spectre.

Anyways, I'm not arguing that Thanos can beat the Stranger. The problem with the Phantom Stranger is that he's too unquantifiable of an entity (example: his four separate origin stories) to really categorize in terms of his power levels.

Anyways, lets show the PS some love. Here, watch how manly he is in dealing with this lion:

Anyways this just proves most are sheep imo. No one really can even put up a decent argument as to how he wins yet most say easily.

He lacks feats,was defeated more easily than Shazam, or Nabu who even wanted the Spectre to beat him. Just because the Spectre cant permanently destroy Doomsday does that make him weak, No he could easily defeat Doomsday just as he did the Ps but he couldnt even ever kill Doomsday but he could kill the Ps is the point.

He has oodles of feats. He has survived the Magus with an incomplete ig and been fine. Thanos.Easily.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. I'm saying How can the LT had been omniversal back then when the omniverse as we know it was the beyond wrealm then. Beyonder was the rest of the marvel reality.

Originally posted by fangirl101

I'm saying How can the LT had been omniversal back then
when the omniverse as we know it was the beyond wrealm then.
Beyonder was the rest of the marvel reality.

The Omniverse back then was the infinite Multiverse, the Marvel reality.

Beyonder was completely separated, another reality totally disconnected,
dare I say, like another company that entered the Marvelverse, and took over.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not true.

The Omniverse back then was the infinite Multiverse, the Marvel reality.

Beyonder was completely separated, another reality totally disconnected,
dare I say, like another company that entered the Marvelverse, and took over.

Originally posted by fangirl101

You dare say it, and you would be wrong.

Originally posted by fangirl101

He was a creation of marvel. He was part of the marvel reality. since he was the rest of the marvel reality, he was, what is NOW the omniverse.

He was obviously the Marvel company's property,
but Shooter created Beyonder to be something outside,
completely disconnect form the Marvelverse.

Again,

like another company that came into the Marvelverse, took over, and became reality.

Originally posted by fangirl101

How in the HELL is the omniverse back then the multiverse?

Multiverse back then = all of Marvel's UniverseS.

Omniverse means, all UniverseS.

So the Multiverse in 85 was the Omniverse, but technically a Multiverse.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Come now. Please. LMAO. The multiverse was the multiverse back then as it is now. The beyond wrealm was what is Now the omniverse. the beyonder was a marvel property and thus is PART of the marvel's omniverse or ALL reality.

The Marvel Multiverse expanded,
the Marvel Multiverse did NOT become the Omniverse because Beyonder was retconned.

In fact,
there was only one Universe outside the Multiverse after Beyonder was scaled down.

That was the "New Universe" which was established in Nov. 1986.

You should really ask, or read before making these fallacious claims so confidently.

Most of your posts are off-topic.

And how the heck did Thanos gain the IG?
When I clearly stated in my first post that both won't use any sort of backup.

Thanos WITHOUT (I repeat, WITHOUT) IG or THOTI
vs
Phantom Stranger

Is that not clear enough for you guys?

LT, Beyonder, Molecule Man, etc, etc. is irrelevant to this post.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That scan of Terry Thirteen is hilarious. 😂 😂

Anyways this just proves most are sheep imo. No one really can even put up a decent argument as to how he wins yet most say easily.

He lacks feats,was defeated more easily than Shazam, or Nabu who even wanted the Spectre to beat him. Just because the Spectre cant permanently destroy Doomsday does that make him weak, No he could easily defeat Doomsday just as he did the Ps but he couldnt even ever kill Doomsday but he could kill the Ps is the point.

He has oodles of feats. He has survived the Magus with an incomplete ig and been fine. Thanos.Easily.

Hm, IIRC Thanos in his helicopter, some cops taking Thanos to jail hmm.

😂

oh yeah I forgot to mention Squirrel Girl

See, both have some PIS and low showings.

And there is a Difference between being dead (the Hostless Spectre wouldn't have probs killing Thanos) and being turned into a mouse (the hostless Spectre couldn't kill the PS).

😉

The low showings of the PS happened before the CotIE. He had some upgrades since then. Now he is an part of the DC Quintessence.

Shazam, Zeus, Highfather, Ganthet and The Spectre. Those are his Buddies in this Quintessence club. I guess Thanos can't hope to join them 🙂 .

Phantom Stranger.

The PS is so underrated, it's not even funny.
For Pete's sake, the guy can travel anywhere he wants in a blink of an eye! Heaven, Hell, 16th Dimension, it doesn't matter.

I wouldn't be surprised if the writers decide that Batman *****slaps the PS one day.

Showing PS beaten by Terry Thirteen is just horrible, horrible writing.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually you're wrong, as you always are concerning Marvel.

False.

He was obviously the Marvel company's property,
but Shooter created Beyonder to be something outside,
completely disconnect form the Marvelverse.

Again,

like another company that came into the Marvelverse, took over, and became reality.

Simple.

Multiverse back then = all of Marvel's UniverseS.

Omniverse means, all UniverseS.

So the Multiverse in 85 was the Omniverse, but technically a Multiverse.

100% False.

The Marvel Multiverse expanded,
the Marvel Multiverse did NOT become the Omniverse because Beyonder was retconned.

In fact,
there was only one Universe outside the Multiverse after Beyonder was scaled down.

That was the "New Universe" which was established in Nov. 1986.

You should really ask, or read before making these fallacious claims so confidently.

you are grasping. As long as the Beyonder was a marvel property and appeared on marvel pages, he was and will always be part of the marvel reality, the marvel omniverse, the marvel company. He was not like another company invading. he was created by marvel's one above all, and he invaded a marvel reality. now again, the marvel multiverse was just that in 1984. Now it is a marvel omniverse. The beyonder was said on panel to be everything outside of the marvel multiverse. that would mean he was the rest of the marvel reality. now how in the hell was the LT omniversal in power then if the beyonder was the rest of the omniverse besides that one lil marvel multiverse? twist and turn all you want, the beyonder was a marvel creation thus he was part of the marvel omniverse.

Originally posted by fangirl101
you are grasping. As long as the Beyonder was a marvel property and appeared on marvel pages, he was and will always be part of the marvel reality, the marvel omniverse, the marvel company. He was not like another company invading. he was created by marvel's one above all, and he invaded a marvel reality. now again, the marvel multiverse was just that in 1984. Now it is a marvel omniverse. The beyonder was said on panel to be everything outside of the marvel multiverse. that would mean he was the rest of the marvel reality. now how in the hell was the LT omniversal in power then if the beyonder was the rest of the omniverse besides that one lil marvel multiverse? twist and turn all you want, the beyonder was a marvel creation thus he was part of the marvel omniverse.

👆 👆

that = teh butt secs woot

Originally posted by leonheartmm
says the man who has never read any significant DC or spectre or phantom stranger appearances.

thanos with the IG<<<<<<spectre.

tha phantom stranger is a fallen angel who neither sided with lucifer nor with god. that is what makes him unique and puts up his relationship with the spectre, who was also a fallen angel who sided with lucifer but wanted to be redeemed and became the wrath of god.

and WHAT is it about MORE POWER THAN TIMOTHY HUNTER that you dont understand???? do you think thanos cud take on tim at his prime? the reason the phantom stranger doesnt get involved directly is that he only wishes to guide others and not partake in it himself. simultaneously going to heaven and hell isnt enough of a feat for you to consider him strong???????? a place where even the spectre isnt allowed.

truly ridiculous, this is bordering on spite, thanos is an insect to stranger.

😕

Come on is there really any question that Thanos w/IG is >>>>>> All of DC? Let alone just Spectre.

Let's be serious. Please pull your DC bias away.

So Thanos w/IG <<<<< Dr. Fate? 😛 ❌ NOT!

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
The PS is so underrated, it's not even funny.
For Pete's sake, the guy can travel anywhere he wants in a blink of an eye! Heaven, Hell, 16th Dimension, it doesn't matter.

I wouldn't be surprised if the writers decide that Batman *****slaps the PS one day.

Showing PS beaten by Terry Thirteen is just horrible, horrible writing.

Or you just completely miss the context.

One: humor. Guess that one slipped by you.

Two: Early Silver Age. The Stranger really didn't have powers back then. He'd go hand to hand with guys armed with guns and fight lions and make out with Cassandra Craft and let her borrow his medallion.

You could think of those things.

or you could be completely unfun and be waaaaaay too serious about a forum about comic book characters getting into fights.

Originally posted by tjcoady
Or you just completely miss the context.

One: humor. Guess that one slipped by you.

Two: Early Silver Age. The Stranger really didn't have powers back then. He'd go hand to hand with guys armed with guns and fight lions and make out with Cassandra Craft and let her borrow his medallion.

You could think of those things.

or you could be completely unfun and be waaaaaay too serious about a forum about comic book characters getting into fights.

Well, it may be humorous for you, but for others it isn't.
Humor depends on how I see things; it's not for you to decide.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Well, it may be humorous for you, but for others it isn't.
Humor depends on how I see things; it's not for you to decide.

what a passive aggressive answer.

Even if you don't perceive something as humorous yourself, a person ought to be able to differentiate between attempts at a legitimate argument and a clearly facetious, over the top, and absurd comical argument.

Nevermind.

Phantom Stranger for the win.

Originally posted by fangirl101
you are grasping. As long as the Beyonder was a marvel property and appeared on marvel pages, he was and will always be part of the marvel reality, the marvel omniverse, the marvel company. He was not like another company invading. he was created by marvel's one above all, and he invaded a marvel reality. now again, the marvel multiverse was just that in 1984. Now it is a marvel omniverse. The beyonder was said on panel to be everything outside of the marvel multiverse. that would mean he was the rest of the marvel reality. now how in the hell was the LT omniversal in power then if the beyonder was the rest of the omniverse besides that one lil marvel multiverse? twist and turn all you want, the beyonder was a marvel creation thus he was part of the marvel omniverse.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hm, IIRC Thanos in his helicopter, some cops taking Thanos to jail hmm.

😂

oh yeah I forgot to mention Squirrel Girl

See, both have some PIS and low showings.

And there is a Difference between being dead (the Hostless Spectre wouldn't have probs killing Thanos) and being turned into a mouse (the hostless Spectre couldn't kill the PS).

😉

The low showings of the PS happened before the CotIE. He had some upgrades since then. Now he is an part of the DC Quintessence.

Shazam, Zeus, Highfather, Ganthet and The Spectre. Those are his Buddies in this Quintessence club. I guess Thanos can't hope to join them 🙂 .

Sgirl is undefeated and that isnt canon either.

Both make no sense whatsoever and have him acting completely out of character.

If Thanos met this dov Spectre he would probably turn him into his herald. I mean if eclipso could confuse the Spectre so then Thanos would do it in less time.

Again just because you cant destroy something or someone it doesnt mean you are any less powerful.

Spectre easily defeated the Ps.

Scans of his upgrades.

Highfather is a joke and Ganthet is another bieng who is overrated as well.

Thanos couldnt want to join the quintessence he would rule the entire dcu.

Originally posted by The Illuminati
😕

Come on is there really any question that Thanos w/IG is >>>>>> All of DC? Let alone just Spectre.

Let's be serious. Please pull your DC bias away.

So Thanos w/IG <<<<< Dr. Fate? 😛 ❌ NOT!

Originally posted by fangirl101
you are grasping. As long as the Beyonder was a marvel property and appeared on marvel pages, he was and will always be part of the marvel reality, the marvel omniverse, the marvel company. He was not like another company invading. he was created by marvel's one above all, and he invaded a marvel reality. now again, the marvel multiverse was just that in 1984. Now it is a marvel omniverse. The beyonder was said on panel to be everything outside of the marvel multiverse. that would mean he was the rest of the marvel reality. now how in the hell was the LT omniversal in power then if the beyonder was the rest of the omniverse besides that one lil marvel multiverse? twist and turn all you want, the beyonder was a marvel creation thus he was part of the marvel omniverse.