Wolverine (finally! The Revamped Respect Thread!)

Started by srankmissingnin101 pages

Originally posted by jinzin
In some alternate timelines I'm fairly certain Wolverine's gone on for centuries into the future.

Aside from that, look at Romulus.

Here Comes Tomorrow was 300 years in the future, and Fantastic Force was 400-500 years into the future... and in the end of that he knocked up Gaea so his life force could replenish the earth and restart humanity.

Wasn't he an old man in Fantastic Force?

Never finished the arc so I can't comment on the Gaea thing.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't know. Nick Fury says he hasn't aged a day since WW2, and he in TBTIS he has been stated to have a better healing factor than Yi Yang, and her's has kept her alive and young for 6,000. It's very unlikely he'd die of Old Age. Aging occurs from cellular decay and losing proteins while cells replicated and replace one an other, considering the number of times he has been partially incinerated dude would be ancient now if aging was a possibility.

I'm pretty sure I've seen a reference regarding Logan aging at least once (I remember reading someone calling him an old man on another occasion) and I have read at least two alternate time lines where he was aged noticeably.

Even in this reference, his seen as an old man etc.

I've never seen Logan called ageless on the other hand.

I didn't say he aged at a normal pace. I said he doesn't have eternal life. From what I've read, it's been explained that his healing factor slows down his aging considerably, which is why his over a century old and physically is, IIRC, either a man in his prime or in his early 30's.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wasn't he an old man in Fantastic Force?

Never finished the arc so I can't comment on the Gaea thing.

I'm pretty sure I've seen a reference of Logan aging at least once (I remember reading someone calling him an old man on another occasion) and I have read at least two alternate time lines where he was aged noticeably.

Even in this reference, his seen as an old man etc.

I've never seen Logan called ageless.

I didn't say he aged at a normal pace. I said he doesn't have eternal life. From what I've read, it's been explained that his healing factor slows down his aging considerably, which is why his over a century old and IIRC, either a man in his prime or in his early 30's.

Same age as he was in Old Man Logan. I think Miller operated on the Earth X theory that Wolverine needed to be active or his powers stop working. As soon as he started fighting again he didn't age past his Old Man Logan level.

He looks like he is in his mid 30s or a well aged 40s and spends most his time hanging around with teenagers and 20 year olds. That's why there are strings of old man comments.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Same age as he was in Old Man Logan. I think Miller operated on the Earth X theory that Wolverine needed to be active or his powers stop working. As soon as he started fighting again he didn't age past his Old Man Logan level.

He looks like he is in his mid 30s or a well aged 40s and spends most his time hanging around with teenagers and 20 year olds. That's why there are strings of old man comments.

So yea, he was an old man like I remembered. What? When was this referenced? I don't remember it. It would be kind of ridiculous to come to this conclusion based solely on his appearance however. There wouldn't be any notable aging -especially since his already an old man- in an adventure that lasted like what, a week?

Isn't that enough evidence of his lack of eternal life? Wolverine aging is retarded considerably by his healing factor but he won't live for eternity. I for one doubt a writer would have him still kicking in say a millenia give or take.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So yea, he was an old man like I remembered. What? When was this referenced? I don't remember it. It would be kind of ridiculous to come to this conclusion based solely on his appearance however. There wouldn't be any notable aging -especially since his already an old man- in an adventure that lasted like what, a week?

Isn't that enough evidence of his lack of eternal life? Wolverine aging is retarded considerably by his healing factor but he won't live for eternity. I for one doubt a writer would ever have him still kicking in say a millenia give or take.

Fantastic Force was a continuation of Old Man Logan. He looked the same as he did in Old Man Logan but it was 400-500 years latter. So he aged in the 40 years between normal continuity and Old Man Logan but not in the 400-500 years post Old Man Logan.

He looks the same now as he did in WW2, where he already was 50+ years old. Sometime between the 1900s and the 1940's his healing factor became powerful enough for him no longer age, I suspect it likely coincides with the first time he had to regenerate a significant amount of trauma and based on the numbers it probably took place some time in the first world war.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Fantastic Force was a continuation of Old Man Logan. He looked the same as he did in Old Man Logan but it was 400-500 years latter. So he aged in the 40 years between normal continuity and Old Man Logan but not in the 400-500 years post Old Man Logan.

Hold on what? Millar used that same time line? I remember him getting the Banner baby but I thought that was just a coincidence. Where was this stated?

How the hell did there futuristic Earth spring up from that hell hole that Old Man Logan lived in? And the Banner baby doesn't age either then?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He looks the same now as he did in WW2, where he already was 50+ years old. Sometime between the 1900s and the 1940's his healing factor became powerful enough for him no longer age, I suspect it likely coincides with the first time he had to regenerate a significant amount of trauma and based on the numbers it probably took place some time in the first world war.

From what I've seen, his usually drawn as younger (Or at least less wrinkly) in those eras.

Is there any mention of his aging being stopped? Because once again, from everything I've seen, Logan is not ageless. He simply ages slowly.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hold on what? Millar used that same time line? I remember him getting the Banner baby but I thought that was just a coincidence. Where was this stated?

How the hell did there futuristic Earth spring up from that hell hole that Old Man Logan lived in? And the Banner baby doesn't age either then?

From what I've seen, his usually drawn as younger (Or at least less wrinkly) in those eras.

Is there any mention of his aging being stopped? Because once again, from everything I've seen, Logan is not ageless. He simply ages slowly.

Yeah Millar said so multiple times. The both are some how tied into 1985... but I don't remember how.

Not sure how Old Man Logan became Fantastic Force... but 400 years is a long as time.

Nick Fury's said he hasn't age a day, and he almost always looks exactly the same in flash back stories as he does in current continuity.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah Millar said so multiple times. The both are some how tied into 1985... but I don't remember how.

Not sure how Old Man Logan became Fantastic Force... but 400 years is a long as time.

Nick Fury's said he hasn't age a day, and he almost always looks exactly the same in flash back stories as he does in current continuity.

Millar said there the same Wolverine from the same time line? When?

So what happened? Did he get an amp or something? Because the "Wolverine's powers stop working when his inactive" is a pretty drastic view compared to what we see almost 100%. And how does that account for the times when Wolverine is simply chilling etc?

On a side note, wasn't the Fantastic Force part of Hickman's run? Not 100% sure.

Could be just hyperbole. Could be 100% the truth. But again, from what I've seen, his drawn younger, or at least less wrinkly.

The stance that Wolverine doesn't age is a completely foreign one until now. That has never ever been my impression.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Millar said there the same Wolverine from the same time line? When?

So what happened? Did he get an amp or something? Because the "Wolverine's powers stop working when his inactive" is a pretty drastic view compared to what we see almost 100%. And how does that account for the times when Wolverine is simply chilling etc?

On a side note, wasn't the Fantastic Force part of Hickman's run? Not 100% sure.

Could be just hyperbole. Could be 100% the truth. But again, from what I've seen, his drawn younger, or at least less wrinkly.

The stance that Wolverine doesn't age is a completely foreign one until now. That has never ever been my impression.

I can buy that he ages really really really slowly but it doesn't stop entirely. Look at Romulus - dude has white hair and looks about 60..and he's 5000 years old or so. So it's probably just that Logan only aged a year or two in the fantastic force saga which is 400-500 years in the future.

Originally posted by jinzin
In some alternate timelines I'm fairly certain Wolverine's gone on for centuries into the future.

Aside from that, look at Romulus.


Yes day after tomorrow takes place 250 years into the future and he has not age a day.

Also in Fantastic force 500 years into the future he has not age a day.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Could be just hyperbole. Could be 100% the truth. But again, from what I've seen, his drawn younger, or at least less wrinkly.

The stance that Wolverine doesn't age is a completely foreign one until now. That has never ever been my impression.


This is 100% wrong. Even in days of the future past wolverine look to have aged but actaully did not. He was shown in Wolverien days of the future past which is the story continued and he looks as he always does.

Here comes tommarrow take splace 250 year into the future and he not aged a day.

Old man Logan is the same Wolverine from Fantastic Force. Baby Hulk is all grown up. It was stated in an interview, but I have no idea were it is. It came out around the time both fantastic force. That they were from the same universe. He also the hooded Man in The detah of the invisible woman fantastic fource story arc.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
(I remember reading someone calling him an old man on another occasion) and I have read at least two alternate time lines where he was aged noticeably.

Yes marvel girl and jublee call him that and it was explained it because he like a father to them.

Yes there may be some in which he may have age, but there plenty were he did not.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

I've never seen Logan called ageless on the other hand.

This is likely becuase you havent read his on going for years on end. But he has been mention as being immortal several times. He has not age in over 100 years.

@srank this was always my favorite Wolvie cartoon quote

YouTube video

Wolverine and Hercules: Myths, Monsters and Mutants 02

Wolverine bull rushes and headbutts a charging Minotaur, who had one-shotted Herc previously in the issue, proving again that Logan can take a hit better than Hercules. 😈

Wolverine and Hercules vs Medusa:


Wolverine: The Best There Is #05:

Wolverine makes quick work out of Vic Slaughter, Scavenger and Suicide.


Wolverine: The Best There Is #05:

Wolverine's healing factor vs various exotic diseases courtesy of Contagion.

Uncanny X-Men #534

Powerless Wolverine (mutant flu) makes a short work of his wannabes.

Spoiler:
Wolverine's subconscious manifestation of the Phoenix, was able to forcibly eject Emma from his mind.
😈

when?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
when?

Wolverine #8