Yes, Katie Power. She mistook Wolverine for her brother, Jack, there. Hence her surprise.
It's from "X-Men and Power Pack" mini-series, first issue. Unfortunately, it is not canon to 616, apparanently. My bad. All those PP minis happen in their own universe.
Other scans are ok. MCP, Wolverine books, Astonishing X-Men, Uncanny X-Force, UXM, Marvel Team-up.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, Katie Power. She mistook Wolverine for her brother, Jack, there. Hence her surprise.It's from "X-Men and Power Pack" mini-series, first issue. Unfortunately, it is not canon to 616, apparanently. My bad. All those PP minis happen in their own universe.
Other scans are ok. MCP, Wolverine books, Astonishing X-Men, Uncanny X-Force, UXM, Marvel Team-up.
Ah, thanks. I figured it was either her or Elsie Dee, and the lack of both Albert and her lisp kind of eliminated Elsie.
Shame, it's a great scan. After "Wounded Wolf" I always hoped they would do more with Katie and Wolverine. The 80's were Kitty's time, the 90's were Jubilees, I think Katie would have been a more memorable sidekick than Armor in the 2000's.
It takes Spider-Man, Spider Woman and Hawkeye to restrain Wolverine:
For those who think Clint is a non-factor here, let's not forget about his recent feat from New Avengers:
http://i.imgur.com/feYvsxL.jpg
PS. Power nullifier worked on Barton, too. So he can be full of surprises.
Originally posted by Ize19
Ah, thanks. I figured it was either her or Elsie Dee, and the lack of both Albert and her lisp kind of eliminated Elsie.Shame, it's a great scan. After "Wounded Wolf" I always hoped they would do more with Katie and Wolverine. The 80's were Kitty's time, the 90's were Jubilees, I think Katie would have been a more memorable sidekick than Armor in the 2000's.
Than either Armor or Idie, tbh...
Wolverine's had some great feats in that universe, I loved the part when he bragged about being far more skilled than Jackie Chan 😄 It's easy to mistake it for canon, as it tries to mimic modern 616 reality, having Sauron breathe fire and so on.
Speaking of Wounded Wolf... any idea why Yuriko's skeleton is so flawed?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Than either Armor or Idie, tbh...Wolverine's had some great feats in that universe, I loved the part when he bragged about being far more skilled than Jackie Chan 😄 It's easy to mistake it for canon, as it tries to mimic modern 616 reality, having Sauron breathe fire and so on.
Speaking of Wounded Wolf... any idea why Yuriko's skeleton is so flawed?
Lol, yeah, Idie, Armor, Angel... a string of "sidekicks" that just didn't work.
Lol, yeah, I've seen that one. Great line. Yeah, easy mistake to make, every time I've seen the scan of Wolverine dodging the lasers, I was sure it was from EotS... then I'd read EotS, and be like "huh? where's the laser dodging scene?" lol.
Not sure what you mean by flawed?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I mean that her arms keep getting detached/sliced off... she's supposed to have her entire skeleton dipped in adamantium, ffs.And cybernetic upgrades should take care of any joint weaknesses - it'd actually be easier to explain than in Wolverine's case.
Ahhh... I don't know, lol. When was the first time her arm was sliced off? At least in all of her early appearances, Wolverine can slice her flesh/cybernetics, but her skeleton always held up. The only thing I can think of is perhaps Apocalypse was better at the procedure than Spiral? But that's just hand waving, there's no indication in Wounded Wolf that anything went wrong with her bonding.
Originally posted by Ize19
Ahhh... I don't know, lol. When was the first time her arm was sliced off? At least in all of her early appearances, Wolverine can slice her flesh/cybernetics, but her skeleton always held up. The only thing I can think of is perhaps Apocalypse was better at the procedure than Spiral? But that's just hand waving, there's no indication in Wounded Wolf that anything went wrong with her bonding.
When that nazi tank ran over her arm. And if you mean literally sliced off... her fingers got cut off by a sword-wielding Wolverine in v3... after their sword duel, in which Yuriko cheated. She lost both of her arms when fighting OML just recently.
God Loves, Man Kills sequel had her losing an arm, too... against Bishop, I think...
IIRC, it happened in Rogue series, too. When Rogue absorbed Sunfire's powers.
There might be more 😐
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
When that nazi tank ran over her arm. And if you mean literally sliced off... her fingers got cut off by a sword-wielding Wolverine in v3... after their sword duel, in which Yuriko cheated. She lost both of her arms when fighting OML just recently.God Loves, Man Kills sequel had her losing an arm, too... against Bishop, I think...
IIRC, it happened in Rogue series, too. When Rogue absorbed Sunfire's powers.
There might be more 😐
Wow, I knew about the sword duel, but I totally missed her arm getting crushed in Blood and Claws! Looking at that list, I almost want to say that she has adamantium claws, but not the skeleton... even though that contradicts all her bios.
Looking again at her appearances, we know she can extend her claws to insane lengths, in Blood and Claws she balloons her neck to snap a rope, and we've seen her stretch her limbs multiple times... perhaps her skeleton sacrifices the unity and integrity that Wolverine's has, in exchange for allowing her insane flexibility. If it can stretch, then all you have to do is cut the points that allow for that, right?
Originally posted by Ize19
Wow, I knew about the sword duel, but I totally missed her arm getting crushed in Blood and Claws! Looking at that list, I almost want to say that she has adamantium claws, but not the skeleton... even though that contradicts all her bios.Looking again at her appearances, we know she can extend her claws to insane lengths, in Blood and Claws she balloons her neck to snap a rope, and we've seen her stretch her limbs multiple times... perhaps her skeleton sacrifices the unity and integrity that Wolverine's has, in exchange for allowing her insane flexibility. If it can stretch, then all you have to do is cut the points that allow for that, right?
It's one of her best showings against Logan. Missing her right arm and still going toe to toe with Wolverine. That was before she got a HF of her own, too. In defense of Logan, he didn't exactly start at 100% either, having fought soldiers.
It also contradicts on panel statements, most recent I can think of was from Uncanny X-Force Point One issue (great fighting performance from Yuriko here btw, too).
👆 I like that as a possible explanation.
Claws extension:
Neck trick:
http://i.imgur.com/LEnTD0c.jpg
She has plenty of other showings displaying her quasi-magical cybernetic morphing abilities, so it's only fair if it doesn't come without a price...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's one of her best showings against Logan. Missing her right arm and still going toe to toe with Wolverine. That was before she got a HF of her own, too. In defense of Logan, he didn't exactly start at 100% either, having fought soldiers.
Yeah, love that whole arc. One of the funnier results of that time traveling battle they had, is that apparently there used to be a fifth ninja turtle, but they erased him from the timestream, lol. Hama will always be second only to Claremont, imo. And to be honest, when I think of Wolverine's "voice," I tend to think of Hama's characterization first.
It also contradicts on panel statements, most recent I can think of was from Uncanny X-Force Point One issue (great fighting performance from Yuriko here btw, too). [/B]
Right, so it's definitely not that, I was just a bit flabbergasted by the huge list of detachments.
👆 I like that as a possible explanation.Claws extension:
Neck trick:
http://i.imgur.com/LEnTD0c.jpg
She has plenty of other showings displaying her quasi-magical cybernetic morphing abilities, so it's only fair if it doesn't come without a price... [/B]
Yeah, I was starting to get a little upset at how much disrespect one of Wolverine's greatest foes has been shown, but realizing this strength provides its own vulnerability made me feel a lot better about it.
Originally posted by Ize19
Yeah, love that whole arc. One of the funnier results of that time traveling battle they had, is that apparently there used to be a fifth ninja turtle, but they erased him from the timestream, lol. Hama will always be second only to Claremont, imo. And to be honest, when I think of Wolverine's "voice," I tend to think of Hama's characterization first.
Need to re-read it, don't remember that part!
And yes, Hama definitely did a great job with Wolverine.
Originally posted by Ize19
Right, so it's definitely not that, I was just a bit flabbergasted by the huge list of detachments.
I'm afraid it's not even a complete list. And Claremont being among those writers... smh.
Originally posted by Ize19
Yeah, I was starting to get a little upset at how much disrespect one of Wolverine's greatest foes has been shown, but realizing this strength provides its own vulnerability made me feel a lot better about it.
We can blame the cartoon, too. The classic one from the nineties, I mean. She was adamantiumless there, iirc.
Still, she's getting more respect than poor Silver Samurai, who got replaced by a teenager...
Casually cracks a wall:
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While out of shape (putting it lightly, as it happens after Fatal Attractions), manhandles Lady D in an epic fashion:
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Webbing his arms to the wall doesn't do the trick...
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Wolverine gets huge props here, being described as almost as strong as Creed:
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This deserves its own post, as it's not often the roles get reversed in the Fastball Special. Wolverine actually throws Colossus at the Juggernaut:
Another great post, Stilt. Always a pleasure to see your updates.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm afraid it's not even a complete list. And Claremont being among those writers... smh.
Right, but at the same time, Claremont being among them makes me feel better about my theory. If he wrote it that way, it makes it feel by design, rather than simply carelessness.
We can blame the cartoon, too. The classic one from the nineties, I mean. She was adamantiumless there, iirc.Still, she's getting more respect than poor Silver Samurai, who got replaced by a teenager... [/B]
Yeah... I enjoyed the Back in Japan story, which he was a big part of, but he's definitely not fit to fill his fathers shoes. Oh well, comics being comics, we'll probably get him back at some point, hopefully Wolverine himself will be back by then.
Now for some feats. That opening scan you posted made me think of an earlier wall break, this one metal:
And now for some claw feats. This first one is Wolverine easily slicing a chain that Hercules couldn't break free from:
Next is Wolverine slicing through a door that Piledriver, Absorbing Man, and the Wrecking Crew couldn't break free from. It was even stated that Thor couldn't have broken out:
Here he scores Colossus Organic Steel skin:
Some have tried to argue this shows Colossus being unhurt, but if so, why did he later react like this to Wolverine's claws?:
Food for thought. Enjoy!
Originally posted by Ize19
Another great post, Stilt. Always a pleasure to see your updates.
Thank you. Feeling the same about your posts 👆
Originally posted by Ize19
Right, but at the same time, Claremont being among them makes me feel better about my theory. If he wrote it that way, it makes it feel by design, rather than simply carelessness.
Claremont gave us a fine Yuriko/Logan duel there, too...
Originally posted by Ize19
Yeah... I enjoyed the Back in Japan story, which he was a big part of, but he's definitely not fit to fill his fathers shoes. Oh well, comics being comics, we'll probably get him back at some point, hopefully Wolverine himself will be back by then.
SS junior gave Jane Foster Thor one hell of a fight, btw. Turns out Wolverine beating him the way he did (twice, actually, if we count Creed's party) was actually an insane feat.
Originally posted by Ize19
Now for some feats. That opening scan you posted made me think of an earlier wall break, this one metal:
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Somehow I just knew you'd post this one in response, lol. Good stuff.
Originally posted by Ize19
And now for some claw feats. This first one is Wolverine easily slicing a chain that Hercules couldn't break free from:
Neither Herc nor Karkas could free themselves, yes:
Originally posted by Ize19
Next is Wolverine slicing through a door that Piledriver, Absorbing Man, and the Wrecking Crew couldn't break free from. It was even stated that Thor couldn't have broken out:
Ah, Secret Wars. Great find, forgot about it...
We see Cap barely doing any damage with his tank-slicing shield... and Logan just one-shots those doors 😄
Fun fact: Parker's stated that Lizard is three times as strong as him.
When it comes to fightin', I've had plenty of different teachers over the years.
[list][*]the wolves and wild beasts of the Great White North
[*]the million dollar murder techs of Weapon X
[*]the seediest cutthroats in the back alleys of Madripoor
[*]the most exalted combat priests of the Shi'ar throneworld
[*]some of the most honorable samurai to ever pick up a sword
[*]the most vicious bastards who've ever grown claws and fangs
[*]the greatest fighters of the distant past and the far-flung future
[*]men and mutants
[*]animals and aliens
[*]even a god or two[/list]
I've learned from them all.
Source: Wolverine: Manifest Destiny #4
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thank you. Feeling the same about your posts 👆
Thanks man. Appreciate it.
Claremont gave us a fine Yuriko/Logan duel there, too...
Not just their best fight, but one of the best fights Wolverine's ever had.
SS junior gave Jane Foster Thor one hell of a fight, btw. Turns out Wolverine beating him the way he did (twice, actually, if we count Creed's party) was actually an insane feat.
Damn. He also embarrassed him, while blind, during Japan's Most Wanted. Good to know.
👆Somehow I just knew you'd post this one in response, lol. Good stuff.
Lol, yeah, I know it was predictable, but sometimes things are predictable because they're clearly the right next move. And I definitely had to post that in response!
Ah, Secret Wars. Great find, forgot about it...We see Cap barely doing any damage with his tank-slicing shield... and Logan just one-shots those doors 😄
Fun fact: Parker's stated that Lizard is three times as strong as him.
Yeah, I loved that aspect too. Honestly, although his characterization isn't there 100%, Wolverine still has a lot of great moments in there. Especially this one:
Obviously he hadn't used his abilities to enhance his reactions or durability, but considering this happened after Molecule Man had hurled a mountain range on top of the heroes, it's still pretty damn badass.
The above referenced fight with SS II. Note, the fight does continue after this, but it's pretty much a brand new fight at that point, and this was already extremely long. I'll do part two later.
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And now another theme post. This one's all about Wolverine's enhanced senses. People don't realize it, but they pretty much make him the next best thing to a telepath. Here's Xavier talking about what an overwhelming experience it is, having Wolverine's senses:
Wolverine can smell not only fear
but also pleasure and pain
And even evil
He can pick out the number of pursuers from blocks away, as well as their emotional state:
Can pick one scent out of over 10 million:
Just from sniffing a letter, he can tell where it was written, what the conditions of the room were like, and what it was written with, telling him what the state of the writer is. Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out!
All in all, it's no wonder Jean says it's harder to keep secrets from him, than from a psi-talent:
Enjoy!
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It takes Spider-Man, Spider Woman and Hawkeye to restrain Wolverine:For those who think Clint is a non-factor here, let's not forget about his recent feat from New Avengers:
http://i.imgur.com/feYvsxL.jpg
PS. Power nullifier worked on Barton, too. So he can be full of surprises.
props to the my fave respect thread. what this from?
