Adamantium Sabretooth & Cyber vs Classic Thor/no Hammer

Started by llagrok5 pages

King Thor with a depowering amulet around his neck*

Or was that after he cut Thor?

Originally posted by ashroro
Jinzin, Wolverine cut King Thor's arm, not Rune King Thor. Just wanted to let you know. There is a BIG difference between the two. And recently, it was proven that Thor is bullet proof. But we are talking about classic Thor, so know doubt admantium can cut him and at the time his durability against bullets was in question.

Yeah you're about the King Thor thing. Sorry about that.

Don't know why I keep saying Rune King...

Originally posted by llagrok
King Thor with a depowering amulet around his neck*

Or was that after he cut Thor?


The amulet went around his neck after he was cut.

Not bad.

Wolverine has long claws compared to Cyber and Sabretooth though and we don't know how much it affected Thor. All we know is that he was still capable of killing Hulk and The Thing hand to hand.

Originally posted by llagrok
Not bad.

Wolverine has long claws compared to Cyber and Sabretooth though and we don't know how much it affected Thor. All we know is that he was still capable of killing Hulk and The Thing hand to hand.


True. but Sabretooth causes more numerous cuts with his claws. And Cyber, well his hallucinigens basically make his claws one shot fight enders.

Thor may have gone toe to toe with Hulk and Thing, but I think that once again falls into how different ranges of durability play out. He can take blun force trauma in stride. Getting cut up and bled out? Not so much.

Apparently he can.

He lost a hand and later an arm, yet kept on fighting for many hours.

Keep in mind that we're talking about King Thor who was much more powerful than Classic Thor.

Classic Thor has been put down by minimal bloodloss. And it's questionable as to what went on with King Thor's arm when he fought Hulk and Thing. Did he caurterize the wound? Or just wrap it up?

You're kidding me right? 'The Reigning' storyline isn't even canon you nimrod. When classic Thor can keep up with Balder, Heimdall, Silver Surfer, etc. and beat the holy loving hell out of Loki + Fenris w/ Mjolnir imitations, you're damn right I'm going to use simple logic to suggest that Thor wins this all day. Please! You're Wolverine-related fanboyism would even make 5'5" hairy Canadians blush.

Classic Thor 9/10.

Originally posted by jinzin
True. but Sabretooth causes more numerous cuts with his claws. And Cyber, well his hallucinigens basically make his claws one shot fight enders.

Thor may have gone toe to toe with Hulk and Thing, but I think that once again falls into how different ranges of durability play out. He can take blun force trauma in stride. Getting cut up and bled out? Not so much.

And show me a SINGLE fight where classic Thor was overwhelemed from being cut up! Please. I'd love to see this.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're kidding me right? 'The Reigning' storyline isn't even canon you nimrod. When classic Thor can keep up with Balder, Heimdall, Silver Surfer, etc. and beat the holy loving hell out of Loki + Fenris w/ Mjolnir imitations, you're damn right I'm going to use simple logic to suggest that Thor wins this all day. Please! You're Wolverine-related fanboyism would even make 5'5" hairy Canadians blush.

Classic Thor 9/10.

I'm not taking wolverine and cyber's side here, but in the fight with loki and fenris iirc he wasn't hit at all with the replicas, was he? It would be a relevant thing to bring up if he was hit by them repeatedly and didn't even care. Sabertooth (and most likely cyber) is a much better fighter in melee than either Loki or Fenris IMO so his (their) swings would more often than not hit Thor.

So the point of them not being able to hurt him based on him beating Loki and Fenris when they had Mjolnir replicas is moot, since they didn't actually hit him...

That is if I'm actually remembering it right which I most likely am not.

It's say that Thor skin muscle & bone is only 3 times denser then a normal human.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're kidding me right? 'The Reigning' storyline isn't even canon you nimrod. When classic Thor can keep up with Balder, Heimdall, Silver Surfer, etc. and beat the holy loving hell out of Loki + Fenris w/ Mjolnir imitations, you're damn right I'm going to use simple logic to suggest that Thor wins this all day. Please! You're Wolverine-related fanboyism would even make 5'5" hairy Canadians blush.

Classic Thor 9/10.

Wolverine's only 5'3".

Just saying.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Your love of Wolverine-related characters is awe-inspiring. It doesn't even stop at Wolverine. Anything Wolverine-related and you believe they can take on classic Thor. Wow. Just wow.

You believe adamantium Sabretooth + Cyber is a greater threat than Loki and Fenris with Mjolnir imitations? You think a guy who can take shots from and trade punches with Thanos and Surfer will get stomped by two Wolverine knockoffs? I think the internet just broke.


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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're kidding me right? 'The Reigning' storyline isn't even canon you nimrod. When classic Thor can keep up with Balder, Heimdall, Silver Surfer, etc. and beat the holy loving hell out of Loki + Fenris w/ Mjolnir imitations, you're damn right I'm going to use simple logic to suggest that Thor wins this all day. Please! You're Wolverine-related fanboyism would even make 5'5" hairy Canadians blush.

Classic Thor 9/10.

Nimrod?

You're the jackass with the reading comprehension problem who failed to realize that we already established that it's outside of canon. The thing is, it's the only evidence we have one way or the other if Adamantium blades can cut and or hurt Thor.

What's you're excuse I mean Thor's stronger so what? Wolverine's claws must have been sharper? Pfffftt please.

I really don't get why you keep bringing up battles in which Thor was using his hammer and powers aside from physicality to keep him in those fights. Or warrior madness.

And this hang up that you have on Loki and Fenris is ridiculous.. What the hell did Fenris do in that arc that was remotely impressive... Aside from getting handled by Captain America and then ran off by his "ruff"

Loki, the guy's a good swordsmen.. so what? What does that say about his hand to hand skill? An older sickly version of Cap took Loki to school 616 didn't fair much better. This has nothing to do with fanboyism.. For Thor to win this fight he has to beat two guys who are better faster fighters than himself, one who can take his punishment indefinitely, and one who can take it infinitely lest he gets a solid face shot. Both who can rend through his flesh, and one who can end the fight in one hit no matter if it's a deep cut, or a scratch. Thor's never shown that kind of flawless skill in his fights... EVER... 😐

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And show me a SINGLE fight where classic Thor was overwhelemed from being cut up! Please. I'd love to see this.

you mean aside from when he got downed by Crusader?

How about when King Thor got downed by one gut slash from Desak?

or a couple stabs?

Or dropped by a bullet to the head that didn't even penetrate all the way?

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
I'm not taking wolverine and cyber's side here, but in the fight with loki and fenris iirc he wasn't hit at all with the replicas, was he? It would be a relevant thing to bring up if he was hit by them repeatedly and didn't even care. Sabertooth (and most likely cyber) is a much better fighter in melee than either Loki or Fenris IMO so his (their) swings would more often than not hit Thor.

So the point of them not being able to hurt him based on him beating Loki and Fenris when they had Mjolnir replicas is moot, since they didn't actually hit him...

That is if I'm actually remembering it right which I most likely am not.


Exactly.

Originally posted by golem370
It's say that Thor skin muscle & bone is only 3 times denser then a normal human.
I already posted scans of classic Thor taking bullets and taking aircraft artillery. His skin muscle and bone density has to be far past the durability of steel as aircraft fire from jets would easily puncture steel.
Originally posted by jinzin
you mean aside from when he got downed by Crusader?

How about when King Thor got downed by one gut slash from Desak?

or a couple stabs?

Or dropped by a bullet to the head that didn't even penetrate all the way?

Crusader was mystically empowered by all his Crusading ancestors. How many times are you going to ignore this? Guy was throwing around cars and was strong enough to block Mjolnir shots when his faith was at his highest. You'd like to keep ignoring the mystical nature of his powers but it makes you look ignorant or illiterate.

And you're honestly comparing Desak, a being who has slayed pantheons of gods across the universe AND absorbed their power and use that as justification that Thor would easily get flayed by Sabretooth and Cyber? You make baby Jesus cry with such idiotic attentuation. It's as analagous as suggesting that Wolverine could cut Superman because Wonder Woman cut Superman with her magical sword.

And how many times does it have to be pointed out that the writer admitted to his mistake in that Black Panther story after being slammed by fans and his editors AND the writer himself publishing a recantation of how that was illustrated?

As regards to Loki and Fenris, if you honestly think Sabretooth and Cyber pose more danger than them, I'll never convince you otherwise since you've apparently banished the idea of logic from your brain. Maybe Thor didn't get hit because he was just that damn good at fisticuffs when he has to be? Either way, you've got NOTHING to prove Sabretooth or Cyber could tear Thor apart except: 1) an invalid non-canon example from 'The Reigning;' 2) mystical weapon powered by faith; 3) skyfather-level beings slashing; or 4) a publicly recanted story.

Do you know what that amounts to? EPIC PHAIL.

Classic Thor 9/10.

Wolverine solos.

Thor has rarely shown combat speed on the level that Wolverine has, and considering his claws, healing factor and speed, Logan takes it.

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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Wolverine solos.

Thor has rarely shown combat speed on the level that Wolverine has, and considering his claws, healing factor and speed, Logan takes it.

wolverine isn't in this thread