Odin and Thanos vs. Shazam and Takion

Originally posted by fangirl101
It is the freaking spectre. You act as if getting stomped by the spectre is a low feat. Only a fool could think such a thing. the fact that shazam put up any kind of fight at all is a feat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Eclipso with prep convinced the Spectre to destroy magic when he could do no such thing. The guy was an outright buffoon in this comic. Shazam failing with onesided prep to me isnt impressive at all in the least. All it proves is even his artifacts arent really that powerful against the Spectre.

You dont' even know what you are arguing do you? The Spectre is the freaking Spectre. Your pathetic attempts to demean every freaking DC character gets on my nerves. Really. And Not just mine. You dont' even argue logically. Your calling a HOSTLESS Spectre a buffoon because he got tricked by a being as old as time and as cunning as lucifer. Just stop it. Right now.

Originally posted by fangirl101
You dont' even know what you are arguing do you? The Spectre is the freaking Spectre. Your pathetic attempts to demean every freaking DC character gets on my nerves. Really. And Not just mine. You dont' even argue logically. Your calling a HOSTLESS Spectre a buffoon because he got tricked by a being as old as time and as cunning as lucifer. Just stop it. Right now.

You think eclipso is as smart as lucy. Really?

Spectre didnt even know he couldnt destroy magic. I would say calling him a buffoon is putting it lightly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Eclipso is a being not even wise enough to know he is a pawn of Darkseid. Eclipso is nowhere near as cunning as lucy. I cant believe you said this.

You think eclipso is as smart as lucy. Really?

Spectre didnt even know he couldnt destroy magic. I would say calling him a buffoon is putting it lightly.

Calling a hostless spectre a baffoon is stupid. That is the point of a hostless spectre. It is raw emotion with no tethering. which is why it needs a soul.

Team 2

Team one wins. Takion isn't even that far above SS who Thanos can one-shot. Same with Odin. Thanos has been upgraded and can now give a well-fed Galactus trouble.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Team one wins. Takion isn't even that far above SS who Thanos can one-shot. Same with Odin. Thanos has been upgraded and can now give a well-fed Galactus trouble.

Surfer has held back a multiversal power before?

He's beaten the likes of Flash, a High end GL, and high energy wielder like captain atom at the same time without trying?

Surfer has saved everyone by stepping in between the clicks of a second?

Surfer has omnicience and can look at his enemies and tell thier weakness?

Surfer can manipulate entropy and anti matter?

Surfer can scatter his atoms across the universe and then pull them back together?

Surfer is indestructible?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Surfer has held back a multiversal power before?

Originally posted by fangirl101
He's beaten the likes of Flash, a High end GL, and high energy wielder like captain atom at the same time without trying?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Surfer has saved everyone by stepping in between the clicks of a second?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Surfer has omnicience and can look at his enemies and tell thier weakness?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Surfer can manipulate entropy and anti matter?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Surfer can scatter his atoms across the universe and then pull them back together?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Surfer is indestructible?

Originally posted by darthgoober
He DID take on Thanos w/ IG.

Got me there.

He hasn't saved anyone that way, but yeah he's got some impressive time manipulation feats of a similar nature.

Omniscience no, tell weaknesses yes.

I don't see why not.

His own atoms, no.

He has been called that several times.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Looks to me like Surfer is no where near the league of Takion. We already know that Takion>>>>>>>> the best Gl's. Surfer is about equal to the best GL's on thier best days.

Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you think he's nowhere near Takion's league based on my post?

Originally posted by Air Legend
His sheer intransigence. You do know you're wasting your time when you respond to him, right?

Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you think he's nowhere near Takion's league based on my post? If we get into a feat comparison between the two Takion proves superior but it's not by leaps and bounds.

My opinion. First step is to show me the Surfer beating Two high tier beings like Kyle and Flash, and a low herald guy like CM. Without trying or knowing his powers.

Originally posted by fangirl101
My opinion. First step is to show me the Surfer beating Two high tier beings like Kyle and Flash, and a low herald guy like CM. Without trying or knowing his powers.

No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.

Now you claim that Takion is far superior to Surfer right? So it's up to you to prove that Takion is far superior to Surfer who's channeled the energies of the Crunch, stalemated Millinius(one of Odin's villains), evolved an entire planet billions of years in a matter of moments, beat the Stranger, punked a Watcher, and took down the Unilord.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Why do you automatically assume that it's up to others to prove you wrong?

No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
[B]Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.

Now you claim that Takion is far superior to Surfer right? So it's up to you to prove that Takion is far superior to Surfer who's channeled the energies of the Crunch, stalemated Millinius(one of Odin's villains), evolved an entire planet billions of years in a matter of moments, beat the Stranger, punked a Watcher, and took down the Unilord. [/B]

The surfer gets punked by Thanos. Who's greatest feats involve beating herald level characters, getting his ass kicked by Odin and not dying, etc. Forget takion being cooler, cuz he's not cooler than SS. He simply is far more powerful. The crunch energies were not his own power. He simply channelled them. takion used his OWN power against the power of the God wave. The stranger got frozen by iceman. So forgive me if surfer beating him isn't impressing me. Odin has many villians Not all of them are on the same level. unless you think that means he can stalemate Surtur as well.

Guys, I'm getting too many reports from these types of threads. I won't name people but I've spoken to you all before. Those of you who have been warned before are close to a banning. The others will get a warning and then I'll close the thread. If you can't get along then please use the ignore feature.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The surfer gets punked by Thanos. Who's greatest feats involve beating herald level characters, getting his ass kicked by Odin and not dying, etc.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The crunch energies were not his own power. He simply channelled them. takion used his OWN power against the power of the God wave.

And Takion DIED against the God Wave. That's like saying Cyclops's blast against Thanos during the Infinity Gauntlet was a massive show of power.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The stranger got frozen by iceman. So forgive me if surfer beating him isn't impressing me.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Odin has many villians Not all of them are on the same level. unless you think that means he can stalemate Surtur as well.

And I'm still waiting on proof for Takion. If you need scans of the Surfer feats for comparison I can post them, but I figured they're well known enough that I don't need to.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Actually Thanos's big feats are doing more to a well fed Galactus in a single blast than pretty much anyone else... ever, nearly mind raping a well fed Galactus, taking down the Maker, easily shattering a forcefield that was keeping numerous top tiers at bay, along with his feats of resisting prolonged attacks from Odin and swatting around herald level characters like flies.

Surfer was already massively weakened before the feat and Galactus admitted that he himself couldn't withstand those energies.

And Takion DIED against the God Wave. That's like saying Cyclops's blast against Thanos during the Infinity Gauntlet was a massive show of power.

You mean the same Ice Man that's an omega level mutant and who has also done the same thing to Oblivion before?

I'm not saying that Millenius is equal to Odin in power, but he's still powerful as Hell.

And I'm still waiting on proof for Takion. If you need scans of the Surfer feats for comparison I can post them, but I figured they're well known enough that I don't need to.

Um, The fact that EVERYONE didn't die because of the Godwave is Takion's feat. The multiversal power by rights should have steam rolled everyone. It was takion who not only shielded them from it's effects, but pushed against the Wave long enough for DS to act. Your analogy of cyclops does NOT compare. Thanos taking down the maker is a non feat. She has no feats of her own. Not in that form. If swatting herald characters around like flies is a feat then takion has that. Hence he would be at least Thanos level and thus above Surfer regardless. Galactus admitting that he can't withstand energies that surfer could doesn't speak volumes about surfer, it speaks volumes about Galactus. in a negative way. I dont' need scans of surfer's feats. I know his defeats at the hands of thanos who is comparible in power to takion. maybe a little less powerful.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Um, The fact that EVERYONE didn't die because of the Godwave is Takion's feat. The multiversal power by rights should have steam rolled everyone. It was takion who not only shielded them from it's effects, but pushed against the Wave long enough for DS to act. Your analogy of cyclops does NOT compare. Thanos taking down the maker is a non feat. She has no feats of her own. Not in that form. If swatting herald characters around like flies is a feat then takion has that. Hence he would be at least Thanos level and thus above Surfer regardless. Galactus admitting that he can't withstand energies that surfer could doesn't speak volumes about surfer, it speaks volumes about Galactus. in a negative way. I dont' need scans of surfer's feats. I know his defeats at the hands of thanos who is comparible in power to takion. maybe a little less powerful.

But it's good to see you admit that Thanos is at least comparable in power to Takion.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You come up with a feat that Takion actually survives and we'll talk, until then I'm not impressed. A failed attempt at stopping the God Wave is nowhere near quantifiable enough to gauge his power off of. Surfer's actually taken down actual cosmics like the Stranger, a Watcher, and the Unilord and he managed to SURVIVE.

But it's good to see you admit that Thanos is at least comparable in power to Takion.