Lord Rayden vs Emperor Palpatine

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
A lightsaber is the standard weapon for all Jedi and Sith, considering he kept one in his sleeve for all of his time as chancellor, I.E. the first three movies, it's logical to assume that he would start off with one. That'd be like saying in an Obi-Wan vs. whoever match that because the thread starter didn't specifically say Obi-Wan had his lightsaber, he doesn't have it.

And the thread starter didn't say Luke had his lightsaber in the Luke vs. Neo thread, yet you automatically assumed he had it and even used it in several of your arguments. You're using a double standard because it suits your argument. Again.

Grasping for straws.

Like the Yoda versus Dumbledore thread, I said NO SABER for Yoda. Its standard equipment, durh, but whoever starts the thread has the right to say what goes.

So until the thread starter verifies Sidious has a saber, its not a valid argument.

The thread starter didn't say that until the second page. Four posts or so into the first page you said Luek will win if he keeps his hands on his lightsaber, even though the thread starter never specified whither or not Luke had one. You automatically assumed Luke had one because all Jedi and Sith carry around lightsabers. I just checked again, and the thread starter never actually specifically said weither or not Luek got his lightsaber. He just said "I want it to be as close as possible, so if luke needs the books sure". It's on the second page. No mention of a lightsaber. Yet you use Luke's lightsaber n your arguments several times.

You're either a liar or a hypocrite.

Like I said before.

That'd be like saying in an Obi-Wan vs. whoever match that because the thread starter didn't specifically say Obi-Wan had his lightsaber, he doesn't have it.

By your logic, Iron Man in the Iron Man vs. Incredible Hulk thread doesn't have any of the weapons or devices Iron Man had in the movie, because the thread starter didn't state specify exactly what weapons he had. That'd rediculous.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
The thread starter didn't say that until the second page. four posts or so into the first page you said Luek will win if he keeps his hands on his lightsaber, even though the thread starter never specified whither or not Luke had one. You automatically assumed Luke had one because all Jedi and Sith carry around lightsabers.

Do try to either lie better, or remember your own words.

Like I said before.

By your logic, Iron Man in the Iron Man vs. Incredible Hulk thread doesn't have any of the weapons or devices Iron Man had in the movie, because the thread starter didn't state specify exactly what weapons he had. That'd rediculous.

I believed Luke had a chance with his lightsaber even before the thread starter said it was NJO Luke. When he said it was NJO Luke WITH a saber, it was painfully obvious what the outcome would be.

I never said ALL people believed NJO Luke had no chance, did I now? I said "people", not "all people."

Again, its up to the thread starter to name weponry.

But the thread starter didn't say Luke had his lightsaber. So why would you even bring up his lightsaber in the first place? Because you assumed he had it in the fight?

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
But the thread starter didn't say Luke had his lightsaber. So why would you even bring up his lightsaber in the first place? Because you assumed he had it in the fight?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If I remember right, someone assumed and he verified.

You're being a jackass; Blax is correct. Your first post in the thread, which happened to be the 5th reply, you said:

"as long as NJO Luke keeps ahold of his saber, he has a chance. If it goes hand to hand, he gets pwned." -RJ

So you took it upon yourself to assume that Luke had a saber, when it was never mentioned ny thr thread creator. You are being a hypocrite by saying Blax can't assume Palpatine has one in this fight.

Edit: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f102/t481255.html

Originally posted by Robtard
You're being a jackass; Blax is correct. Your first post in the thread, which happened to be the 5th reply, you said:

"as long as NJO Luke keeps ahold of his saber, he has a chance. If it goes hand to hand, he gets pwned." -RJ

So you took it upon yourself to assume that Luke had a saber, when it was never mentioned. You are being a hypocrite by saying Blax can't assume Palpatine has one.

Why get into that, post pages of replies about it, then Snafu comes back and says Sidious has no saber?

Just trying to save us all a bunch of wasted effort.

Hypocrisy still stands.

No it doesn't. Just because I am the one who assumed Luke had a saber and LEARNED about assuming what weaponry each combatant has access to, I am a hypocrite?

Riiiiiight. 👆

You assumed that Luke had a saber, when the thread creator didn't mention one. (Which is fine, since sabers and Jedi go together like milk and cookies.)

Blax assumed Palpatine had a saber when the thread creator didn't mention one.

You told Blax he can't assume Palpatine has one because it wasn't specifically mentioned in the thread.

Add those three facts up together and it = hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Robtard
You assumed that Luke had a saber, when the thread creator didn't mention one. Which is fine, since sabers and Jedi go together like milk and cookies.

Blax assumed Palpatine had a saber when the thread creator didn't mention one.

You told Blax he can't assume Palpatine has one because it wasn't specifically mentioned in the thread.

Add those three facts up together and it = hypocrisy.

Yeah, Jedi have lightsabers, but here in the versus thread, the thread starter has to state what type of weaponry is involved.

Yoda versus Dumbles, Yoda with a saber, is a one sided battle, just as as it would be having Sidious facing Raiden with a saber.

It makes all the sense in the world Snafu means Palpys force power only.

But if Snafu wants to arm Sidious with a saber, thats his call.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
The same way Kratos eats gods for breakfast in God of War?

I know who Kratos is from Greek Mythology, but I have no idea what God of War is.

Also, Greek gods are a bad standard when comparing other gods from around the world. Greek gods were bascially just humans who were immortal and had some extra powers. They had physical bodies, ate, had a sexual drive, and were very emotionally unstable. So if you think about it, the Olympians weren't very different from modern-day comic book superheroes.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
The same way Taven, a mortal, beat Rayden's ass with utter ease in Mortal Kombat Armageddon? The same way Raiden was injured by.. "raptor ninajs" in the second Mortal Kombat movie?

I don't know what you're talking about, I haven't played video games since I was 12.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk

Simply being a god does not make you invincible.

Then you're not a god. Which means this fight isn't to the death, which means only the Emperor can die, so its pretty one-sided.

I agree, Mota.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
which means only the Emperor can die, so its pretty one-sided.

Well, if this is the movie forum, then the express use of NJO Luke in the neo vs Luke thread would have been disallowed. However, he was used, so it's not outside the realm of possiblitiy for comic book standards to also apply to Palpatine. If this were the case, the Emperor has lived as a disembodied spirit on several occasions. So death would become irrelevant. Also, in the comics and books, the Emperor has destroyed planets with force storms from across the galaxy, kept track of people across the galaxy, been able to control the will and fighting spirit of vast numbers of troops, etc.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Prove it.

STFU BASTARD!

I HATE when people sit back and say 'Prove it.'

well, I guess we aren't gonna get an answer to the saber question. 😂

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
STFU BASTARD!

I HATE when people sit back and say 'Prove it.'

Oh, in that case Palpatine wins 10/10.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, in that case Palpatine wins 10/10.

Thats more like it.

Proof is for the women and the weak, I don't need proof for make believe, just a writer!

Originally posted by Combat_Guru

Proof is for the women and the weak, I don't need proof for make believe, just a writer!

This is the 'Movie Vs.' forum, take that shit to the religious forum.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I assumed and D Guy verified. I never should have assumed, I should have asked first. Blax and the rest of us should do the same, wait til Snafu states one way or the other.

Yeah, Jedi have lightsabers, but here in the versus thread, the thread starter has to state what type of weaponry is involved.

Yoda versus Dumbles, Yoda with a saber, is a one sided battle, just as as it would be having Sidious facing Raiden with a saber.

It makes all the sense in the world Snafu means Palpys force power only.

But if Snafu wants to arm Sidious with a saber, thats his call.

Fine then. Let's use your logic.

The thread starter never specified weither or not Rayden can use his powers. So until we get clarification, Rayden is not allowed to teleport or use any of his lightning powers. The thread starter did not specify weither or not the force is allowed, so no force powers can be used. The thread starter did not specify weither they could walk, or use their fists, or even stand up.

So until the thread starter specifies weither or not they can do any of these things, Rayden and Sideous will sit in one spot (Though that's me assuming they're allowed to sit down. The thread starter didn't specify.) Until Snafu makes things more clear.

Rogue Jedi logic prevails.

/thread

STFU BASTARD!

I HATE when people sit back and say 'Prove it.'

Reported. 🙂

The day you are perma-banned, which is inevitable because you're a troll and you've been banned before, I am going to dance.

Superman would thrash Goku by the way.

I know who Kratos is from Greek Mythology, but I have no idea what God of War is.

God of War is a video game set in the time of Ancient Greece. You play the role of Kratos, a mortal man who kills Ares, God of War.

I don't know what you're talking about, I haven't played video games since I was 12.

So yo're saying Raiden wins when you don't even know who he really is or what he's done?

😐

Well, to help you out... the "gods" in Mortal Kombat are more akin to the Greek Gods in that they are not infallibe, all powerful, etc. They're basically just like comic book superheroes, as you said.

Then you're not a god. Which means this fight isn't to the death, which means only the Emperor can die, so its pretty one-sided.

On KMC, in verse matches the victor is decided by one of the two fighters being unable to fight back. So Battle Field removal, KO, death, etc. are all viable forms of winning a match, unless specified by the thread starter. Besides the fact that you're wrong about Rayden being unable to die, even if he was immortal, he can still be knocked out and such, which would give Palpatine the win.