classic beyonder vs the endless

Started by DeadpoolXXX5 pages

hm. seems fangirl101 was ahead of his time.mmm

Beyonder.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
bump.

have opinions about this changed at all in the last 14 years?

Given this thread's Beyonder is supposed to remain static, the more precise question: have the Endless' station elevated in the past 14 years?

Originally posted by ODG
Given this thread's Beyonder is supposed to remain static, the more precise question: have the Endless' station elevated in the past 14 years?
i dont know if the endless have actually been elevated. maybe people nowadays are just more aware of what they are capable of?

I mean the Endless are cool and all (especially Death) but Beyonder has proved capable of erasing a CONCEPTUAL being across the entire multiverse. This feat is canon even to post-retcon Beyonder. If he can erase Death, the other Endless are nothing to him.

I would've thought you were more of a Destruction fan, zop.

Originally posted by zopzop
I mean the Endless are cool and all (especially Death) but Beyonder has proved capable of erasing a CONCEPTUAL being across the entire multiverse. This feat is canon even to post-retcon Beyonder. If he can erase Death, the other Endless are nothing to him.

Who are u speaking of

Marvel death?

Mistress death was not multiversal

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I would've thought you were more of a Destruction fan, zop.

He's my number 3. Desire is my number 2.
Originally posted by MrMind
Who are u speaking of

Marvel death?

Mistress death was not multiversal


No, it was definitely multiversal :

Oh, I don't mean personality wise.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh, I don't mean personality wise.....


That's the only reason why he's my number three 😄 Otherwise it'd be Dream.

Originally posted by zopzop
I mean the Endless are cool and all (especially Death) but Beyonder has proved capable of erasing a CONCEPTUAL being across the entire multiverse. This feat is canon even to post-retcon Beyonder. If he can erase Death, the other Endless are nothing to him.

Marvel Death can be killed off by a necromancy ritual too and destroyed by Adam Warlock destroying the universe with LT's power. She's not even close to be Endless level. Endless can't actually die until you destroy the entire creation and even then Death will be there at the end.

And Vertigo Dream was captured in a bottle for 100 years by a human performing a ritual.

What's stopping Beyonder from waving his hand, creating 7 timelines and 7 of these Roderick Burgess beings who are granted knowledge on how to perform a slightly tweaked ritual each time and trapping each of the 7 Endless, thereby winning via BFR?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Marvel Death can be killed off by a necromancy ritual too and destroyed by Adam Warlock destroying the universe with LT's power. She's not even close to be Endless level. Endless can't actually die until you destroy the entire creation and even then Death will be there at the end.

I understand that Marvel's Death isn't as impressive as Vertigo's Death but that wasn't the point of the scan. The point is, Beyonder has the power to wipe out a conceptual being on a multiversal scale. It's absolutely stupid that this wasn't retconned but that's Marvel for you. Beyonder wins.

Originally posted by Glorificus
And Vertigo Dream was captured in a bottle for 100 years by a human performing a ritual.

What's stopping Beyonder from waving his hand, creating 7 timelines and 7 of these Roderick Burgess beings who are granted knowledge on how to perform a slightly tweaked ritual each time and trapping each of the 7 Endless, thereby winning via BFR?


Dream was weakened when he was captured. Might as well use Beyonder almost getting killed by The Thing.

Beyonder can't create timelines anyway.

Originally posted by zopzop
I understand that Marvel's Death isn't as impressive as Vertigo's Death but that wasn't the point of the scan. The point is, Beyonder has the power to wipe out a conceptual being on a multiversal scale. It's absolutely stupid that this wasn't retconned but that's Marvel for you. Beyonder wins.

Well, Death is universal and not multiversal anymore, so there's that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Dream was weakened when he was captured. Might as well use Beyonder almost getting killed by The Thing.

Beyonder can't create timelines anyway.
Well, Death is universal and not multiversal anymore, so there's that.


The scan I posted clearly said "multiversal."

Originally posted by zopzop
The scan I posted clearly said "multiversal."

Its been retconned, Death herself has been retconned.

Originally posted by Badabing
*sigh* This thread will be closed AND deleted soon.......

14 years later, still open. The slow metabolism and tiny brain of you scalebags must make about a decade and a half seem short.

Originally posted by zopzop
The scan I posted clearly said "multiversal."

SW2 was retconned

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its been retconned, Death herself has been retconned.
Originally posted by MrMind
SW2 was retconned

This feat is still mentioned in Beyonder, Death, Eternity, and the LT's handbook entries. It was shown on panel years later in an issue of Quasar.

Originally posted by zopzop
This feat is still mentioned in Beyonder, Death, Eternity, and the LT's handbook entries. It was shown on panel years later in an issue of Quasar.

If there's no multiversal death anymore, how did Beyonder kill death of multiverse? It's retconned to be the death of a universe.