Can Broly destroy a universe?

Started by Dark-Jaxx8 pages

Originally posted by Kento
Broli survived the triple kamehameha..It's when he hit the sun he died.

Also kinda hard to prove ssj2 Gohan is faster against a guy who plays around and was getting more powerful. Even if Gohan was faster...he'd still never be able to win.

1. Actually, he did not incinerate in the sun until his heart exploded, which effectively killed him. Since he was dead, his body could no longer emanate Ki, so his defense was gone, and he was incinerated.

2. Also, on top of that building, Broly proved to be fast enough to easily dodge all of their blows while standing on his tippy toe simply by leaning back and to the side in a very "DBZ" fashion. Broly had speed.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Actually, he did not incinerate in the sun until his heart exploded, which effectively killed him. Since he was dead, his body could no longer emanate Ki, so his defense was gone, and he was incinerated.

2. Also, on top of that building, Broly proved to be fast enough to easily dodge all of their blows while standing on his tippy toe simply by leaning back and to the side in a very "DBZ" fashion. Broly had speed.

Yea but he still blocked the Kamehameha. It wasn't until he hit the sun that he died. The Kamehameha was survived.

And I didn't say Broli didn't have speed. He's got enough going for him but he never really showed what he could do going all out. He toyed with the Z fighters. I'm not exactly convinced Gohan is faster. Just saying even if he was he still wouldn't beat Broli. Broli has everything else even if he's slower. His durabilty isn't going to be gotten past.

If he was immortal, yes, otherwise no.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Prove it.

2. Prove it.

3. Prove it.

Have a nice day sir. 🙂

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These are DBZ fans that know what the hell their talking about, which you obviously don't.

It's been proven many times on funimation, and on other sites that even the androids could beat Broly from Movie 8 using accurate PROOF.

And in the topic I just posted, it was proven by many members that, Super Perfect Cell>>>>>LSSJ Broly from Movie 10.

Go suck on Broly's Green Gamma Cock. 😛

Here is the most accurate DBZ Power Level Chart on the net, and it says SSJ2 Gohan is leagues above Broly.
http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/anime-manga/dragonball-z/67729-legendary-super-saiyan-legendaryssj7-unleashed.html

Broly's powerlevel was around, 6,600,000,000, SSJ2 Gohan's power level was around, 190,000,000,000 according to one of DBZ's greatest experts on MFG 5.1 Anime & Manga Forums, LegendarySSJ7.

You guys look like ants compared to him when it comes to DBZ.

BTW, Broly's heart didn't explode, the Kamehameha further injured the stab wound he received as an infant Saiyan.

Broly's nothing, he was beat by MSSJ Goku.

I think given training Broly would be the strongest unfused character in DBZ, hell that might just take some more near death experiences, but his full potential isn't but leagues above every other Saiyan, therefore he's still always going to be below Vegetto.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
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These are DBZ fans that know what the hell their talking about, which you obviously don't.

It's been proven many times on funimation, and on other sites that even the androids could beat Broly from Movie 8 using accurate PROOF.

And in the topic I just posted, it was proven by many members that, Super Perfect Cell>>>>>LSSJ Broly from Movie 10.

Go suck on Broly's Green Gamma Cock. 😛

Here is the most accurate DBZ Power Level Chart on the net, and it says SSJ2 Gohan is leagues above Broly.
http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/anime-manga/dragonball-z/67729-legendary-super-saiyan-legendaryssj7-unleashed.html

Oh please stop it. No power level is official after the Frieza saga.

And a Jinzōningen beating Burori? That's extremely laughable.

Originally posted by Keollyn
Oh please stop it. No power level is official after the Frieza saga.

And a Jinzōningen beating Burori? That's extremely laughable.

I never said it was official, I said AROUND that power level.

A DBZ expert spent months working to get those power levels based on the performance of the charatcers.

What? No. Of course not.

Do you know that there are over 100,000,000,000 galaxies in the visible universe alone? And then there's the dark matter and dark energy, which outmass all of the galaxies and normal matter significantly, and then there's the issue of the timespace itself.....

Broli was said to on screen and the galaxy was shown being destroyed. Not that it makes any sense because Gokou goes to a planet that is still intact in the same galaxy he was suppose to have destroyed...And Gotenks hasn't shown the power to..Nobody has not even Broli has shown it when he was actually shown fighting and using his power.

Also when it was being destroyed, you could see it visibly rotating, when a galaxy takes millions of years to rotate, so either the destruction was taking place over the course of millions of years (which makes no sense) or the galaxy was rotating millions of times faster than the speed of light (which makes even less sense). This is why I don't like to debate Broly - he's way too inconsistent, more so than 99% of comic characters. Yes, that includes Pre - Crisis Superman.

He destroyed a galaxy, the Dragonball universe consists of 4 galaxies. And Kaio called him a universal threat.
Given the time, yes.

I had heard 16, but I don't know if that's canon or not.... anyway, compared to our universe, that would be more like a pocket universe if it's true.

Oh, and CG, that's just an appeal to authority fallacy. Power levels are not logical or consistent in any way - any number fans make up will just be a guess.

Endless_Mike, I will never read another post of yours again, I HATE you!

That goes for Broly ****er Jaxx too.

You guys have to stop pretending that you know shit about DBZ.

Broly is the most overated DBZ character of all time, he has the most fanboys of any single character in fiction.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Broly's powerlevel was around, 6,600,000,000, SSJ2 Gohan's power level was around, 190,000,000,000 according to one of DBZ's greatest experts on MFG 5.1 Anime & Manga Forums, LegendarySSJ7.

You guys look like ants compared to him when it comes to DBZ.

BTW, Broly's heart didn't explode, the Kamehameha further injured the stab wound he received as an infant Saiyan.

Broly's nothing, he was beat by MSSJ Goku.

I think given training Broly would be the strongest unfused character in DBZ, hell that might just take some more near death experiences, but his full potential isn't but leagues above every other Saiyan, therefore he's still always going to be below Vegetto.

Made up power levels mean nothing.

Broli blocked the Kamehameha, and the wound was healed from when he was a baby..so how does this happen again?

Broli has the best feats in DBZ by a long shot, and was only beat by a plot device. He took everything they threw at him and suddenly a weakened Gokou getting power by weakened warriors can suddenly beat him as he's getting more powerful?

If you want to get accurate...Broli would stomp the androids. Trunks Vegeta, Gokou and Gohan would have already came out of the Time Chamber so that goes the theory of the androids being any help. Broli toyed with them and beat them worse than Cell did. So there goes the whole Perfect Cell > Broli since Perfect Cell is barley above ssj Gohan that would be the one who fought Broli.

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
I never said it was official, I said AROUND that power level.

A DBZ expert spent months working to get those power levels based on the performance of the charatcers.

It doesn't matter if it was a DBZ insider. If it wasn't Akira Toriyama, it means nothing.

Originally posted by Kento
Made up power levels mean nothing.

Broli blocked the Kamehameha, and the wound was healed from when he was a baby..so how does this happen again?

Broli has the best feats in DBZ by a long shot, and was only beat by a plot device. He took everything they threw at him and suddenly a weakened Gokou getting power by weakened warriors can suddenly beat him as he's getting more powerful?

If you want to get accurate...Broli would stomp the androids. Trunks Vegeta, Gokou and Gohan would have already came out of the Time Chamber so that goes the theory of the androids being any help. Broli toyed with them and beat them worse than Cell did. So there goes the whole Perfect Cell > Broli since Perfect Cell is barley above ssj Gohan that would be the one who fought Broli.

Perfect Cell whooped the Z Fighters MUCH worse, and was owning FPSSJ Gohan.

A single Cell Junior can be compared to the damage Broly did.

And how do you know those Z fighters in movie 8 were at the same level as they were when they fought Cell?

If they were than regular Super Saiyan Gohan would have been the strongest of the bunch.

In movie 8 Gohan was weaker than Goku, but when the fought in the Cell Games, Gohan was stronger.

with one attack, hmm i dont think so, but he could over time !! practically any DBZ villian could, thats why the heroes say " this guy will destroy the whoel universe" i would actually say, Buu and Vegito are universe buster level though

Originally posted by Kento
When was Broli FTL?
To destroy a galaxy at that short amount of time, he would need to be FTL to destroy a galaxy as fast as he did.

I dont think he has eternal youth, so he would die of old age before he gets done with everything in the universe, and he cant destroy the universe itself, just everything inside(ie planets, not space-time or anything like that)

Just look at this way; To travel from where we live now to one of the biggest Supercluster(Shapley cluster i believe) at the speed of light would take us trillions of years..

Who knows how old he would be when he reaches to other galaxies.

Broly is alot stronnger than cell, for one the broly movie is a waht if scenario!! what if>> Goku beat cell during during the cell games, he wouldnt have did, and gohan wouldnt have went ssj23, so apart from the fatc gohan isnt ssj2 everyone is around the sa epwer level, probably a litle higher !!

Originally posted by BradBalboa
Broly is alot stronnger than cell, for one the broly movie is a waht if scenario!! what if>> Goku beat cell during during the cell games, he wouldnt have did, and gohan wouldnt have went ssj23, so apart from the fatc gohan isnt ssj2 everyone is around the sa epwer level, probably a litle higher !!

Wrong.

Those The Z Fighters weren't even at Second Grade Super Saiyan yet.

The Saiyans in that story were depicted at SSJ, not MSSJ, not USSJ, and not FP SSJ.

If the what if scenario that started Broly was that Goku defeated Cell, than Gohan would still be stronger than Goku, and the Saiyans would be a little buffer, and able to do alot more than what their limits are.

And if Broly was stronger than Cell, why weren't any of the saiyans pushed to SSJ2?????? Because they weren't at that power level yet.

Your argument is weak at best.

The only scenario that would work is that the Z Fighters defeated the Androids before Cell could get to them, and Goku teaches Gohan SSJ after they defeat Cell in his first form.

In which case the Saiyans are all many times weaker, I'd say weaker than Cell in his second form, therefore Broly was only a little bit stronger than Cell in his second form, and Perfect Cell was mountains beyond Second Form.

Bullshit !!! Look at Goku when fought cell...right...now lookat Gku whe he fouth Broly, HE LOOKS EXACTLY THE FIGGIN SAME !!! no1 goes ssj second grade cause they dont wanna loose their speed, which is about the ony thign they have on broly since no1 compares to him in terms of physical strength !! hmm no1 gets pushed to ssj2 ?? so what, if they dd it wud get boring if the beat EVERY enemy by turning to a new level of ssj !! Mate ur obviously braidead if you think Cell is more powerful than Broly !!!

Originally posted by BradBalboa
Bullshit !!! Look at Goku when fought cell...right...now lookat Gku whe he fouth Broly, HE LOOKS EXACTLY THE FIGGIN SAME !!! no1 goes ssj second grade cause they dont wanna loose their speed, which is about the ony thign they have on broly since no1 compares to him in terms of physical strength !! hmm no1 gets pushed to ssj2 ?? so what, if they dd it wud get boring if the beat EVERY enemy by turning to a new level of ssj !! Mate ur obviously braidead if you think Cell is more powerful than Broly !!!

If the Z Fighters were the same as the ones who fought Cell in the Cell Games why wasn't Gohan stronger than Goku?

They weren't the same, you can't even compare them by anything other than feats, and those Z Fighters didn't have much to show in Movie 8, so Z Fighters from the Cell Games>>>>>Movie 8 Z Fighters.

Broly can destroy a galaxy because his Chi is out of control, and because the galaxies are tiny, but Cell can regenerate, is faster, smarter, stronger, more skilled, knows all of the Z Fighters and Freeza's, King Cold's, AND Nappa's moves(He was cloned from every opponent that fought the Z Fighters on Earth, and he was cloned from the Z Fighters themselves), and he's more durable.

Broly only trumps Cell in Chi, but that won't do Broly much good because Cell can dodge Chi balls, and Chi balls are the only things Broly knows how to make, those and force fields, which Cell can plow right through.

Im pretty sure they were Second Grade. Just not all super buff. Just took the initial power boost. Vegeta Got buff as hell in the movie. Trunks had long hair showing he came out of the HBTC.

Broly is way Stronger than Cell or Gohan at SSJ2.

If you look at clues and hints. Trunks was actually stronger than Cell. He just didnt have the speed. Cell said when trunks was powering up that he was stronger initialy. Its the same thing with Broly Except he doesn't loose speed at all.

OK, Broly is way stringer than Cell or SS2 Gohan. Although Cell was more powerful than the Z-Fighter's fighting them one on one(Save Gohan). Goku, Vegeta, Trunks and Gohan all presented at least a little challenge to Cell. I still don't understand why all of them didn't just gang up on Cell and stomp him.

Broly took all of them on at the same time without being injured. That team, could take SS2 Gohan

By the appearance of the characters, I can assume it takes place during or after the Cell saga. Maybe during the week of training for the cell games

Broly>>>>>>>Team>>>>Cell