Originally posted by comicfan11He was the main agent of the source and he actually killed Takion. He was a lot more powerful than Takion hnce he died.
Being an agent of the source doesn't make someone the avater of the source and Gog didn't defeat IM. The fight never finished.
Takion has created and controled black holes, manipulated time and other feats that put him at least in Surfer's level though most of the posters agree that he is on a different level hence he beats SS.As you claim the OE has failed on Superman before but has also many times affected him either by teleporting him or hurting him.
Even in Countdown the most recent showing it held Superman immobilized before DS fought J.Olsen and used Kryptonite.
And Before you bring WW deflecting it, her bracelets are made form a godly substance (aegis) so its still a high feat for her bracelets but explainable.
Im backed down and left. Gog punked him as I said. If you leave the battlefield you lose. He forfeited against jsa Gog.
He could be near Surfer's level but Surfer has tons and tons of impressive feats. Plus he has been upgraded as well. Surfer takes him imo. Even if Takion is more than Surfer no one has even scracthed the surface to proving it.
Ds omega beams didnt defeat Supes at all he used Olsen to become knite. He didnt directly pwn Superman because he couldnt.
What about Raker using his ring to create an energy forcefield around darkseid's head?
Originally posted by quanchi112http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takion
Prove it.
Stayne came after Takion and Takion was made in 1996. Do the math. 🙂
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomYour proof is wiki. Lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TakionStayne came after Takion and Takion was made in 1996. Do the math. 🙂
Takion has been demostrated IMO to be above SS, the feats might not be as numerous but that doesnt subtract from there impressiness. Anyhow for every instance that a "top tier"has avoided ot deflected DS OB's there is a instance of DS completly owning and pimpslaming those same chars. DS humbled the order of chaos and did this to ares http://www.imagestation.com/picture...02/f9aa2085.jpg
That same Ares was amped and owning all of DC's heroes at once (even overpowering Takion). Oh and lets not forget this one http://www.imagestation.com/picture...7a/f9143934.jpg IMO DS could force his essence into Thanos' mind thus mindraping him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was the main agent of the source and he actually killed Takion. He was a lot more powerful than Takion hnce he died.Im backed down and left. Gog punked him as I said. If you leave the battlefield you lose. He forfeited against jsa Gog.
He could be near Surfer's level but Surfer has tons and tons of impressive feats. Plus he has been upgraded as well. Surfer takes him imo. Even if Takion is more than Surfer no one has even scracthed the surface to proving it.
Ds omega beams didnt defeat Supes at all he used Olsen to become knite. He didnt directly pwn Superman because he couldnt.
What about Raker using his ring to create an energy forcefield around darkseid's head?
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IM killed Takion???Do you know what you r talking about?????
Takion died holding the Godwave.
IM didn't have anything to do with it.
Read the comics before you post wrong claims.
And Gog traded some blows with IM but NEVER beat him or KO hi or anything.
IM took a direct hit from Gog's stuff from point blank in the chest and was fine.Then he teleported.
As for DS's OE in Countdown #3 Supes tries to flie form J.Olsen and DS holds him through the Omega Beams.
Originally posted by The Great GalenThe images dont work. Is it when darkseid froze Ares not due to his power but due to the timing of it. If he didnt strike at the exact time and missed this opportunity then Ares would have won.
Takion has been demostrated IMO to be above SS, the feats might not be as numerous but that doesnt subtract from there impressiness. Anyhow for every instance that a "top tier"has avoided ot deflected DS OB's there is a instance of DS completly owning and pimpslaming those same chars. DS humbled the order of chaos and did this to ares http://www.imagestation.com/picture...02/f9aa2085.jpgThat same Ares was amped and owning all of DC's heroes at once (even overpowering Takion). Oh and lets not forget this one http://www.imagestation.com/picture...7a/f9143934.jpg IMO DS could force his essence into Thanos' mind thus mindraping him.
Originally posted by comicfan11You do know Takion was High Father after Izaya died right? 😂
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IM killed Takion???Do you know what you r talking about?????
Takion died holding the Godwave.
IM didn't have anything to do with it.
Read the comics before you post wrong claims.And Gog traded some blows with IM but NEVER beat him or KO hi or anything.
IM took a direct hit from Gog's stuff from point blank in the chest and was fine.Then he teleported.As for DS's OE in Countdown #3 Supes tries to flie form J.Olsen and DS holds him through the Omega Beams.
You do know the Im killed him in dong right. You do know Takion wasnt killed off for good in genesis right. You really dont have a clue while I pwn you left and right.
Im backed down and left after Gog told him to get off his planet. Im left. That is all.
Originally posted by quanchi112I don't know, that his power far greater than someone who can manipulate anti-matter....that he create beings with a small portion of his power, that shit on pretty much any herald leveler and some even some trancendents.
Anyways what does creating Stayne have to do with Darkseid and what he is capable of himself in combat?
Also, I love I completely proved you wrong and you resort to changing your stance to hide the fact that you embarassed yourself. 🙂
Originally posted by The Great GalenSurfer has more feats than Takion and the feats people actually bring up has the Surfer accomplishing what he set out to do in the first place. While Takions claim to fame is holding back the godwave for some time and being killed in the process thus failing.
LMAO, Quan read the issue then come back to this debate...seriously this is so easy and sad. Anyhow I'll be back later to argue some more points, in the mean time team 2 wins and Takion>SS while DS>>Thanos. Peace
Thanos is above top tier level while Darkseid cant even beat one on his own anymore.
Originally posted by quanchi112I'm not trying to say your wrong or anything....but can you some how back up this statement with on panel evidence?
The images dont work. Is it when darkseid froze Ares not due to his power but due to the timing of it. If he didnt strike at the exact time and missed this opportunity then Ares would have won.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You do know Takion was High Father after Izaya died right? 😂You do know the Im killed him in dong right. You do know Takion wasnt killed off for good in genesis right. You really dont have a clue while I pwn you left and right.
Im backed down and left after Gog told him to get off his planet. Im left. That is all.
I know in issue #3 were he was taken by surprise because Takion thought it was Kimon.
And In DOTNG IM didn't physically beat Takion.
He took his soul something that SS has no way of doing because he is not connected to the source.
Thing is IM was doing the bidding of the Source so killing the New Gods using the power from their creator was not strange.