Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

Started by Allankles136 pages

Originally posted by horrorwolf
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Fail. You can't prove how fast (or slow as you put it) Sentry was moving in those panels. sorry.

Sentry is capable of FTL speed, speeds towards WWH and gets nailed.
WWH can counter speed attacks, and has done so time and time again.

Sentry wasn't being displayed as blur (which would describe his super speed in combat) he came straight at WWH and got nailed nothing on the level of what Superman has done to the speedy DD, Mongul etc

Originally posted by llagrok
How can you guarantee me? Doomsday who has displayed superspeed wasn't capable of hitting him. The Hulk has never displayed speed feats comparable to Doomsday, unless you can provide me with any.

Superman was KO'd by Graak, he will easily get hit by WWHulk.

Originally posted by Allankles
Sentry wasn't being displayed as blur (which would describe his super speed in combat) he came straight at WWH and got nailed nothing on the level of what Superman has done to the speedy DD, Mongul etc

Sorry, Blurs aren't indicative of speed in all comics. "Hey I dont see a blur..." He must be moving slooowly.....durr.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
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Fail. You can't prove how fast (or slow as you put it) Sentry was moving in those panels. sorry.

Sentry is capable of FTL speed, speeds towards WWH and gets nailed.
WWH can counter speed attacks, and has done so time and time again.

No, but I did prove he wasn't moving at superspeeds, and if you don't see it when it's laid out clearly for you then I'm sorry but you really shouldn't be debating.
So please try posting some evidence because insofar your claims are along the lines of:

😆 Hulk keeps coming

😆 Hulk counters speedsters

😆 😆 😆 Hulk has a healing factor

😆 Hulk wins

Originally posted by The Pict
No, but I did prove he wasn't moving at superspeeds, and if you don't see it when it's laid out clearly for you then I'm sorry but you really shouldn't be debating.
So please try posting some evidence because insofar your claims are along the lines of:

😆 Hulk keeps coming

😆 Hulk counters speedsters

😆 😆 😆 Hulk has a healing factor

😆 Hulk wins

Actually you have yet to prove what speeds Sentry was moving at initially and throughout his fight. Try harder.

Originally posted by Allankles
Sentry wasn't being displayed as blur (which would describe his super speed in combat) he came straight at WWH and got nailed nothing on the level of what Superman has done to the speedy DD, Mongul etc

And WWH made his whole whatever happens next speech before Sentry got to him. Plus we see him coming in two panels. Horrowolf just doesn't have any evidence to disprove it so just ignores what's clearly there.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Actually you have yet to prove what speeds Sentry was moving at initially and throughout his fight. Try harder.

I'm not proving what speeds he's at, I'm just proving he isn't moving at superspeeds.

Try at all.

Originally posted by The Pict
And WWH made his whole whatever happens next speech before Sentry got to him. Plus we see him coming in two panels. Horrowolf just doesn't have any evidence to disprove it so just ignores what's clearly there.

As mentioned, people in comics talk all the time while moving beyond the speed of sound. so what.

Its in no way a "gauge" for indicating speed.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Sorry, Blurs aren't indicative of speed in all comics. "Hey I dont see a blur..." He must be moving slooowly.....durr.

Then what is? If they're brawling the narration won't bother to mention or indicate their speed which is what happened in that fight with Sentry.

When Superman brawls in the comics its the same thing, when he uses his speed he's a blur and basically untouchable. Many different artists have shown blurring when Superman has used Superspeed in combat, when he's vibrated his body intangible the effect is also similar, in that he is displayed like an after image.

Originally posted by The Pict
I'm not proving what speeds he's at, I'm just proving he isn't moving at superspeeds.

Try at all.

Your opinion only. He seems to be moving at super speeds, is capable of many times beyond the speed of light, and has the motiviation to utilize it.

Originally posted by Allankles
Then what is? If they're brawling the narration won't bother to mention or indicate their speed which is what happened in that fight with Sentry.

When Superman brawls in the comics its the same thing, when he uses his speed he's a blur and basically untouchable. Many different artists have shown blurring when Superman has used Superspeed in combat, when he's vibrated his body intangible the effect is also similar, in that he is displayed like an after image.

True, but we have no indications either way.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
As mentioned, people in comics talk all the time while moving beyond the speed of sound. so what.

Its in no way a "gauge" for indicating speed.

Sentry isn't talking Hulk is. As Hulk doesn't have superspeed he is talking at a normal pace and still finishes before Sentry reaches him. Anybody could counter Sentry at those speeds, so your post doesn't have a point at all.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
True, but we have no indications either way.

We have the one clear indication they are brawling and no mention or indication of superspeed. Grundy doesn't have superspeed so when he brawls Superman we clearly know they aren't fighting at superspeed, the same with WWH and Sentry.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Your opinion only. He seems to be moving at super speeds, is capable of many times beyond the speed of light, and has the motiviation to utilize it.

Not my opinion, a fact that is on the page. He doesn't seem to be moving at super speed. He doesn't have the motivation as he wanted to talk to the Hulk throught the fight (which he did)

Okay point out in the scan what indicates that Sentry is moving at superspeed. Go on. Until you can we'll just go by what is on the comic page, shall we?

Originally posted by The Pict
Sentry isn't talking Hulk is. As Hulk doesn't have superspeed he is talking at a normal pace and still finishes before Sentry reaches him. Anybody could counter Sentry at those speeds, so your post doesn't have a point at all.

Not to you as you obviously didn't even think Sentry was even capable of Superman speeds.

Fact is Sentry knows what he can throw at Banner. He has super speed, and super strength. And knew that he could go all out with his abilities versus Banner because WWH was more than strong enough to withstand it.

Originally posted by The Pict
Not my opinion, a fact that is on the page. He doesn't seem to be moving at super speed. He doesn't have the motivation as he wanted to talk to the Hulk throught the fight (which he did)

Okay point out in the scan what indicates that Sentry is moving at superspeed. Go on. Until you can we'll just go by what is on the comic page, shall we?

Nah, I'll stick to Sentry's powerset with is still known as FTL in flight speeds. and so fast in movement that he could catch a bullet fired at point blank range....

In fact, Sentry is so fast that he is actually a moment ahead of whatever the current timeline is.

Originally posted by Allankles
We have the one clear indication they are brawling and no mention or indication of superspeed. Grundy doesn't have superspeed so when he brawls Superman we clearly know they aren't fighting at superspeed, the same with WWH and Sentry.

*ahem* Actually, I'm pretty sure some of Grundy's incarnations have superspeed. Plus, at times, Grundy is almost indestructible, save for fire.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
*ahem* Actually, I'm pretty sure some of Grundy's incarnations have superspeed. Plus, at times, Grundy is almost indestructible, save for fire.

Which Grundy has superspeed...? scans please.

Also Superman has had trouble with earlier version that are KNOWN to not have any speeds whatsoever.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Nah, I'll stick to Sentry's powerset with is still FTL in flight speeds.

Sentry also has energy powers in his powerset, is he using them when he comes at Hulk. Superman has heat vision in his powerset is he always using it? Hulk can jump for miles in his powerset is he always jumping? Xavier has telepathy in his powerset is he always communicating telepathically?

Such a stupid post I actually think you are debating just for lulz because your posts have no evidence whatsoever.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Bottom line, we have never seen a limit to Hulk's rage or Hulk's Strength levels. If you disagree post scans of prove it otherwise.

He's always had a limit, his muscles, they can't grow indefinitely. Hulks strength is derived basically from his muscle density, are you saying that his body can accomplish the impossible?