Originally posted by Sado22
REPORTED!! 馃槧oh and frank definitely wins with prep. heck i bet him wins without prep too. bullet to the brain, wolverine dropped. frank ties him up, shoves a miniature bomb up his nose and blows his brains out 馃槢
Frank MIGHT be able to win without prep. Maybe.
But, none of those scans apply to Punisher.. as in... at all.
"The hail of bullets" after 3 days of no food or sleep, and whethering an explosion that leveled a mosk.
Mystique was after that AND being blown up to a skeleton AND being shot with a hail of bullets again..
Deadpool-healing factor. In a fight where Wolverine had his number 5 times.... in a fight that was nothing more than a set-up anyway... 馃槓
Scalphunter- Wolverine was fighting marauders.
Originally posted by jinzin
Frank MIGHT be able to win without prep. Maybe.But, none of those scans apply to Punisher.. as in... at all.
"The hail of bullets" after 3 days of no food or sleep, and whethering an explosion that leveled a mosk.
Mystique was after that AND being blown up to a skeleton AND being shot with a hail of bullets again..
Deadpool-healing factor. In a fight where Wolverine had his number 5 times.... in a fight that was nothing more than a set-up anyway... 馃槓
Scalphunter- Wolverine was fighting marauders.
By the way your respect thread does well in providing evidence that he can't be dropped by handguns. However he was breifly Koed by a bullet from a handgun to the head in Wolverine 8, it did not state wether it got him in the brain but we see a splatter of blood and see Wolverine drop to the floor. I suspect that the bullet got him in the eye, if it had got him right on the skull I think there would have hardly been any blood or it would have bounced off.
There is actually evidence in your thread that indicates that Wolverine can be dropped by machine guns and at least slowed down by them. 馃槵
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
By the way your respect thread does well in providing evidence that he can't be dropped by handguns. However he was breifly Koed by a bullet from a handgun to the head in Wolverine 8, it did not state wether it got him in the brain but we see a splatter of blood and see Wolverine drop to the floor. I suspect that the bullet got him in the eye, if it had got him right on the skull I think there would have hardly been any blood or it would have bounced off.There is actually evidence in your thread that indicates that Wolverine can be dropped by machine guns and at least slowed down by them. 馃槵
Meh it's a monority feat. And yes there's evidence that Wolverine can be slowed down by bullets lest he gets pissed off. There's mulitudes of evidence after fatal attractions that machine gun fire just isn't working on Logan a majority of the time.
Who says Punisher resorts to machine gun fire? Punisher is as straight up a marksman as anybody in the MU. Two hours to prep a factory? When he's actually held his own and gotten the better of Logan when he's been ambushed? And embarassed Logan when he was prepped, but not specifically against Wolverine? And when he's lost one against Wolverine? If you like on-panel evidence so much, 2 hours of prep against Wolverine is better then what Punisher has historically had against him, arguably, except in a Wolverine comic.
Punisher 6/10. Would be more if Punisher had access to Stu Clarke's tech.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0lol, you're the one who bawls about on panel evidence since Wolverine started getting shot in the brain every month.
Who says Punisher resorts to machine gun fire? Punisher is as straight up a marksman as anybody in the MU. Two hours to prep a factory? When he's actually held his own and gotten the better of Logan when he's been ambushed? And embarassed Logan when he was prepped, but not specifically against Wolverine? And when he's lost one against Wolverine?
Punisher hasn't done well against Wolverine aside from get lucky or momentarily hold him off, which is what everyone thinks Punisher should be capible of anyway. He's never going to get a straight win over Logan and never has. If you like on-panel evidence so much, 2 hours of prep against Wolverine is better then what Punisher has historically had against him, arguably, except in a Wolverine comic.Punisher 6/10. Would be more if Punisher had access to Stu Clarke's tech.
Punisher has been one shotted by Wolverine.
He's was able to do nothing more than keep Wolverine at bay after ambushing him.
Even under ENNIS he was losing that fight completely until the nut shot which was luck according to Punisher. And even if he had lit Logan on fire so what? Wolverine would have just kept coming.
Then Wolverine beat him down a mall.
Sure Punisher hit him with a rocket launcher once again under Ennis. great evidence by the way.
Wolverine's done better against opponents with more prep time than Pun has and more resources, even powers...
Punisher should be able to pull a majority here slightly possibly maybe.. all depends on what he can get in two hours. Bullets? Yeah that's not going to win this for him.
Originally posted by jinzin
Meh it's a monority feat.
No its not actually in terms of handguns yes, but as I stated earlier hes been Koed by what looked like a bullet to the eye in Wolverine issue 8 (volume 2 I think), so it can be argued that if hes hit in the eye it will KO him.
Originally posted by jinzin
And yes there's evidence that Wolverine can be slowed down by bullets lest he gets pissed off.
Im afraid as it stands you don't have enough evidence. I think I know what example you are refering to. What that proves is that he can recover more quickly if he gets pissed off. He only got shot once after that and he didn't sustain anything like the damage that he did before. If they had got sprayed at point blank and it did nothing then that would have proven something.
Wolverine was also in a besrker rage when Deadpool shot him in the head. The Director for Weapon X also dropped Wolverine when he was in a beserker rage. There also no girl whos going to get shot in this thread
Originally posted by jinzin
There's mulitudes of evidence after fatal attractions that machine gun fire just isn't working on Logan a majority of the time.
Sorry you have not proven that in your respect thread and im not going to take your word for it. The irony is that you've even provided more evidence to indicate that he can get gunned down.
Heres evidence that he can take machine gunfire.
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/3/machinegufirehc0.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1427/takesbulletslikenothingkc8.jpg
but you got this....
Its not a machine gun but Frank can get a shotgun
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8375/wolviebuckshot2pf7.jpg
Why is Wolverine covering up his torso? Obvoulsy theres a good chance that if had got hit with machine gun bullets that close he would have been dropped.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1482/vampgunswr8.jpg
That explains itself.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8659/hailzv9.jpg
You still have other examples.
1. Punisher dropping Wolverine with a bullet.
2. Wolverine getting dropped by bullets at the end of Volume 1
3. Wolverine ducking under a truck because he deosn't want to get shot again by Bushwacker.
4. Deadpool shooting him in the head in Origins.
Also Stu Clark has created guns that shoot bullets faster do more damage and do heat based damage as well. Frank Castle has access to guns and tech that do alot more damage.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Punisher 6/10. Would be more if Punisher had access to Stu Clarke's tech.
He does. 馃槃
In a scenario fight, the contestants in whose city/reality the fight takes place are allowed access to any material resources they usually have there or of any team they're active members of, as long as they can reasonably get to them. For example, in a scenario set in the DCU, Green Lantern would have access to equipment in the JLA Watchtower, but not the Titans headquarters.
