Originally posted by Ambient
Again I'd have to disagree. The SSkrull fight Surfer was of deranged mind; illogical, irrational on a suicidal rampage. This i think would be the only time we see Surfer homicidal/bloodlusted totally diff. from the norm. ie. The Nova fight..
I think the only real point of contention here is whether or not SS has behaved as per normal post annihilation. From what I've seen, your take is that the only difference is his lack of guilt (which really hasn't been shown to any large enough degree yet) and his lack of emotion. I can't say for sure if he does not potentially feel guilt over killing another (I don't really count T&A as everyday examples of this), but I reckon that his lacking emotion is actually a very strong indication that he is behaving outside his norm. Even if G had indicated that beings of their status should not deign to communicate with lower beings, SS has never shied from disobeying his master before, and his usual initial conversations (e.g. warning his opponents about what the PC can do, make some claims about his power) indicate that he is fighting on a progressive curve, IMO. In his current state, SS simply skips the concave portion of the curve. That's my take on it.
Originally posted by Ambient
I think Surfer well and always be a pacifist (to value life; it cant be less or more) that is the core of his character.. What i think I've seen differ in post annihilation Surfer is that he is far more removed from his emotion, nothing really new this have been explored in past storyline before...
Yeah, I reckon that he will always be a pacifist, which means that it is actually difficult to qualitatively say when he has been bloodlusted, because he is blatantly unwilling to take a life under most circumstances. Also, while SS has behaved similarly in the past, it is very possible that he was written to be upgraded. Matching Thanos' power, manipulating the crunch etc are all pretty high end feats and it may not be a coincidence that they come after his upgrade. I recall seeing an interview stating this. I will see if i can find it.
Originally posted by Ambient
Been following Surfer for a while, still haven't seen current to be out of his usuall char.. Future development, maybe a limited series exploring this part of him should allow us confirmation but for now to each his own..We are really going off topic here 😄 ..
Yeah, I guess we would have much more to discuss as his character is explored to greater depth in the future.
Back on topic now. 🙂
Originally posted by Ouallada
Yeah, I guess we would have much more to discuss as his character is explored to greater depth in the future.Back on topic now. 🙂
Back on topic..
I quess its a stalemate then..
I mean Surfer wouldn't stand a chance against Darkseid yet im not seing how DS could take Surfer.. 🙂
Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
He pwned the shit out of the negro version of Firestorm.
Originally posted by Ambient
You mean when he pulled the Proof out of the matrix? Yeah he did..
I dont see how that would work against Surfer.. Take out the PC, many have tried and all failed.. I think only G can do it and even in the GOTG G couldn't remove Surfer's PC, that however was of diff. timeline..
What ever he did with a wave of his hand would probably sufficient enough to take down most top tiers. Especially since he did it to Mr. Miracle, Firestorm and Orion. And he oculd probably just pull surfer's human host out of the pc shell.
Originally posted by Ambient
You mean when he pulled the Proof out of the matrix? Yeah he did..
I dont see how that would work against Surfer.. Take out the PC, many have tried and all failed.. I think only G can do it and even in the GOTG G couldn't remove Surfer's PC, that however was of diff. timeline..
Jesus christ man........🤨, do you have any idea the high end reality manip required to be able to do that? I've never seen anyone split Firestorm like that, and people have tried.
Originally posted by Ambient
I mean Surfer wouldn't stand a chance against Darkseid yet im not seing how DS could take Surfer.. 🙂
Originally posted by fangirl101No. He handwaved inferior beings in one story. He late fought Orion and got owned and physically dominated.
A hand wave pwns Surfer. Mind Rape. Depowering Surfer into a human being. He does it to Gods, why not a herald? OEing the surfer into nothing.
When has he mindraped? He cant depower the Surfer,I mean he cant do it to Superman so why could he do it to the Surfer?
Originally posted by Air LegendThe way I see Ds pulling out the victory is through his fists. Most on here give Darkseid the win because they like him and that is evident from their reasoning imo.
Exactly. From what I've read out of the responses so far, it seems that Darkseid's name is giving him the win. So far nobody has provided an adequate response proving Darkseid would be the victor.
I feel the reason that Darkseid wins this is because of his physicality. Both can blast each other away but Ds has the trump card there as well in the omega effect. The omega effect can hurt the Surfer more than the Surfer can hurt him with the power cosmic imo.
Ds is no Superman when it comes to strength but Surfer isnt either, Darkseid has both the edge in energy blasting which most comic book fights show and the edge in a brawl. The Surfer really has no advantage imo.
Dont get me wrong he doesnt rape the Surfer but he does pull out the victory imo.
Originally posted by fangirl101
A hand wave pwns Surfer. Mind Rape. Depowering Surfer into a human being. He does it to Gods, why not a herald? OEing the surfer into nothing.
Everyone look at the 3rd post down