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Originally posted by VvendetaHe wasn't really hiding it from Buu...everybody else was keeping him busy unlike against Freeza. If he could have taken energy from Buu I'm sure he would have.
Well, the enemy could felt it, and atack him for that... makes senseHe tried 3 times, against Vegeta he hide to do it so, only a minimum fraction was used by krillin.
Against Freeza and Buu he also try taking care that they dont notice it.
I want to respond to one thing you said in the other thread(do not know why there is 2 threads), is just a silly theory
You say we dont know how much energy the final genkidama has
according to this:
http://migs.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/how-much-electricity-does-your-body-produce/Normal Humans produce 300 watts average, and if we take the humans number in real world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_populationThere are 6,704,845,726. humans
so doing the maths we have 2.0111453718 x10^12 watts, without counting the other sources of energy(Sun, earth, the Namek planet, etc)
What do you think?
And the DB world is a lot smaller than the real world so I doubt there is as many humans.
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Originally posted by Vvendeta
Well, the enemy could felt it, and atack him for that... makes sense
No it doesn't.
"A could do B, but doesn't because B could stop him, despite the fact that there's no proof either one can do anything like that" is a completely specious argument.
He tried 3 times, against Vegeta he hide to do it so, only a minimum fraction was used by krillin.
He wasn't trying to take energy from Vegeta, he took energy from the earth.
Against Freeza and Buu he also try taking care that they dont notice it.
Yes, taking energy from other things, and people who willingly gave it.
I want to respond to one thing you said in the other thread(do not know why there is 2 threads), is just a silly theoryYou say we dont know how much energy the final genkidama has
according to this:
http://migs.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/how-much-electricity-does-your-body-produce/Normal Humans produce 300 watts average, and if we take the humans number in real world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_populationThere are 6,704,845,726. humans
so doing the maths we have 2.0111453718 x10^12 watts, without counting the other sources of energy(Sun, earth, the Namek planet, etc)
What do you think?
1. Ki is not the same as the body's physical energy. Ki is spiritual.
2. Watts are not a measure of energy, energy is measured in joules.
3. If all of the physical energy was taken from a human body, they would die, which didn't happen.
4. There's no possible way you could know the exact amount of humans in the world. It changes constantly due to births and deaths. So I'm pretty sure you just pulled that number out of you - know - where.
4. Even using your number, that translates to less than half a kiloton per second. The Hiroshima bomb was 15 kilotons. Your numbers are obviously off, unless you want to believe that the Genki Dama is less powerful than some of the weakest nukes ever made.
5. Even accepting all of your other assumptions, you yourself admit that there are unknown quantities, so we still don't know how much energy it had.
Since when did [Modern-Age]Superman's energy reach another dimension? Wizard Magazine is accurate.
Considering he doesn't actively radiate energy, I don't see your point.
We already know the Kaios can sense things from other dimensions - North Kaio (King Kai) did it all the time. It's usable as a sensory feat for them, but completely useless as a power feat.
Yeah right, Superman didn't beat Blackrock and Redemption in a matter of minutes. Blackrock and Redemption cant destroy a city. Anyway, since when did a COMIC OFFICIAL confirms that " superman >> goku " ?
Redemption was pretty much invincible as long as his congregation believed in him. He shrugged off attacks that would kill most DBZ characters (such as being pulled into space and smashed back to the earth through re-entry). I'm not as familiar with Blackrock.
Anyway, what makes you think they can't destroy a city? Because they haven't done so? Using that type of logic, we can say that the only people in DBZ who can destroy a planet are Frieza, Cell, and Kid Buu.
Let's look at, say, Android 17. What actual feats does he have? Pretty much none. But you would obviously say he is strong because of the way he competed against characters who had feats. Same goes for Superman's enemies who give him trouble.
And the DB world is a lot smaller than the real world so I doubt there is as many humans.
I don't think there is canon evidence to suggest this.
Maybe, there is no claim how many humans are in DB, but if you are right, the lack of them is compensate with Nameks, afterworld, the kais and with the power of the Z, that alone is a huge amount of energy, Is specify like that in the manga.
But the point is, we don't know how much energy.
Just saying "it's a lot" is meaningless, it's known as an incomplete comparison fallacy.
The full extent of the urbanization and population was never shown.
There are a lot of barren areas on earth - 70% of the surface is covered by water, and there is Antarctica, the Sahara, the Gobi desert, the American southwest, rainforests, Austrailian outback, etc.
We really haven't seen such a great amount of DBZ earth's surface to make such a judgement, IMHO
Originally posted by Vvendetathey still are popular and are in fact one of my fav bands.
At least i made you laugh 🙂In Iceland they were popular, and the video show Goku feats
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Dodging bullets standing in the same place, a feat of speed
Is necessary to have sound speed to do this feat IMO.
Originally posted by Endless Mikei can agree with that but then again, the dbz world has dinosaurs too, so techinically he could pull more energy then if he was in ours.
The full extent of the urbanization and population was never shown.There are a lot of barren areas on earth - 70% of the surface is covered by water, and there is Antarctica, the Sahara, the Gobi desert, the American southwest, rainforests, Austrailian outback, etc.
We really haven't seen such a great amount of DBZ earth's surface to make such a judgement, IMHO
Originally posted by Endless Mike
No it doesn't."A could do B, but doesn't because B could stop him, despite the fact that there's no proof either one can do anything like that" is a completely specious argument.
He wasn't trying to take energy from Vegeta, he took energy from the earth.
Yes, taking energy from other things, and people who willingly gave it.
1. Ki is not the same as the body's physical energy. Ki is spiritual.
2. Watts are not a measure of energy, energy is measured in joules.
3. If all of the physical energy was taken from a human body, they would die, which didn't happen.
4. There's no possible way you could know the exact amount of humans in the world. It changes constantly due to births and deaths. So I'm pretty sure you just pulled that number out of you - know - where.
4. Even using your number, that translates to less than half a kiloton per second. The Hiroshima bomb was 15 kilotons. Your numbers are obviously off, unless you want to believe that the Genki Dama is less powerful than some of the weakest nukes ever made.
5. Even accepting all of your other assumptions, you yourself admit that there are unknown quantities, so we still don't know how much energy it had.
Considering he doesn't actively radiate energy, I don't see your point.
We already know the Kaios can sense things from other dimensions - North Kaio (King Kai) did it all the time. It's usable as a sensory feat for them, but completely useless as a power feat.Redemption was pretty much invincible as long as his congregation believed in him. He shrugged off attacks that would kill most DBZ characters (such as being pulled into space and smashed back to the earth through re-entry). I'm not as familiar with Blackrock.
Anyway, what makes you think they can't destroy a city? Because they haven't done so? Using that type of logic, we can say that the only people in DBZ who can destroy a planet are Frieza, Cell, and Kid Buu.
Let's look at, say, Android 17. What actual feats does he have? Pretty much none. But you would obviously say he is strong because of the way he competed against characters who had feats. Same goes for Superman's enemies who give him trouble.
I don't think there is canon evidence to suggest this.
But the point is, we don't know how much energy.
Just saying "it's a lot" is meaningless, it's known as an incomplete comparison fallacy.
Here is a page that explain Joules=Watts x second
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/g_knott/elect63.htm
I made a theory, never try to said that it was like that, that is why i ask you what do you think, Science is not my strongest subject.
Well the calculator give me that number between the population of earth x 300 watts each, not comming from where you think 🙂
With respect to the Genkidama, i could say that is also another thing that have inconsistency in favor of a plop in the history, however that does not mean that it can take energy from humans, and all matter as said by Kai o sama.
Is true that we never know real quantity of energy from each DB attack, that is the strongest argument for a versus, however the number i give is insignificant of what a human race, animals, ocean, the sun, etc could produce, so even without knowing how much is it, i am pretty sure is over a hiroshima bomb, discussing fantasy is silly, but fun.
Non Canon Movie Tree of might
Goku vs Turles
Goku absorb the energy of the tree that eat planets
Movie is a reference of what would have happen if Goku were evil, if he won’t get amnesia. No relation with canon history line.
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