religious war for the presidency has begun.

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Should say it was acceptable, considering the royal family and most of the nobility practiced it.

Didn't the British do the same??????????????????

Edit-I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the British part of my ancestory, the tree gets rather narrow. 😖hifty:

Good reference for people claiming knowledge of what the framers of the U.S. were thinking when they put pen to paper.

Things That Are Not In the U.S. Constitution

You'll notice "God" as one of the subjects, eigth down. Enjoy.

I wish we had one. 🙁

Originally posted by Robtard
Huh?

Leviticus is used as a reason why homosexuality is a sin and therefore wrong.

Yet those same people who use Leviticus as a crutch in regards for damning homosexuality, will do away with Leviticus' accounts of stoning people for crimes because apparently the New Testament did away with the old teachings.

So why is one Leviticus teaching held onto while another is not?

Exactly. This is another reason why I believe the Bible was written not tp relay God's message and will, but to relay the thoughts of the writer on how the we should be.

Originally posted by Robtard
Good reference for people claiming knowledge of what the framers of the U.S. were thinking when they put pen to paper.

Things That Are Not In the U.S. Constitution

You'll notice "God" as one of the subjects, eigth down. Enjoy.

"One critique of this page is that it is full of nit-picks. Slavery, for example, may not be "in" the original Constitution, but it is in the original Constitution — the word may not have been there, but the concept was."

Pretty much makes the entire page useless since all they looked for was the specific words in order to make the list.

You're kind of drawing a false comparison. "God", as a word or concept, does not appear in the constitution.

However, in the Bill of Rights, freedom of religious expression is. While there is and should be a separation of church and state, it doesn't mean the church (meaning people's belief systems) shouldn't influence how and what people think. People have a right to be inspired by their religion and express it. Of course there is a limit to that where politics are concerned, but the mentioning or not mentioning of God is a moot point. Jefferson mentioned God in the Declaration of Independence and he was an atheist. John Kerry is Catholic and I don't think he ever made God a point in any of his speeches unless asked what he believed.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
However, in the Bill of Rights, freedom of religious expression is. While there is and should be a separation of church and state, it doesn't mean the church (meaning people's belief systems) shouldn't influence how and what people think. People have a right to be inspired by their religion and express it. Of course there is a limit to that where politics are concerned, but the mentioning or not mentioning of God is a moot point. Jefferson mentioned God in the Declaration of Independence and he was an atheist. John Kerry is Catholic and I don't think he ever made God a point in any of his speeches unless asked what he believed.

Thomas Jefferson was an atheist? I couldn't remeber if it was Atheism or Polytheism. 😄

Pretty sure he was an atheist.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm

But if he was polytheistic, he probably would have been in a very small minority.

Mandos, I'm married. Instead of coffee, why don't I just propose a toast in your honor over here and you can return it over there? 😆

You have to ask, why are those "antiquated dietaty codes" which no longer reflect the New Testament arbitrarily kept or done away with. E.g. If stoning your daughter and slavery are no longer to be taken as God's commands, why is homosexuality still taken?

Wait, no, I won't. I've repeatedly explained how this works, and it makes me sad that r-tards keep on making their noise.

Well ya, someone already covered it if reference to homosexuality, little late in the game to proclaim superiority, genius.

St. Paul condemns sodomy.

He also supposedly experienced visions, the kook.

Originally posted by Robtard
He also supposedly experienced visions, the kook.

Or possible Cook...maybe its all just a huge mistranslation.

Originally posted by Robtard
Well ya, someone already covered it if reference to homosexuality, little late in the game to proclaim superiority, genius.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
I'll take superiority on the basis of "**** you, I've been doing this before Urizen showed up and forced me to parrot myself every two weeks."

How do those nails feel?

so yet again two morons stand for election in the US, at least one wont get a vote form the white populatioin of the south even if they are democrates, they never bat for in their words " the other team"

I say "Third Party"............Be done with this.

Originally posted by Robtard
How do those nails feel?

Originally posted by willofthewisp
However, in the Bill of Rights, freedom of religious expression is. While there is and should be a separation of church and state, it doesn't mean the church (meaning people's belief systems) shouldn't influence how and what people think. People have a right to be inspired by their religion and express it. Of course there is a limit to that where politics are concerned, but the mentioning or not mentioning of God is a moot point. Jefferson mentioned God in the Declaration of Independence and he was an atheist. John Kerry is Catholic and I don't think he ever made God a point in any of his speeches unless asked what he believed.

Again, it's a false comparison. Freedom of religious expression is addressed, but no specific religion is noted in that freedom. How and what people think is totally fair game (as I have always said); but how that is meant to influence the government is alos addressed. The mentioning of god is NOT a moot point when there are so many that base the argument on the god being mentioned is the one whose religion they happen to subscribe. Jefferson didn't mention The God. He mentioned A god. He simply did not ascribe that god to any particular denomination or creed. Jefferson was NOT an atheist. He can be most closely called a deist. Although I doubt in this day and age he would have reasoned that god simply walked away from something he had created. (pay attention Quiero) He simply wouldn't have seen the need for an all-knowing god to play babysitter and list-maker to his own creation that he would have known everything about before he walked away; being all-knowing and such. Jefferson was no christian, but he wasn't an atheist either. And somehow the idea that there should be no religious test or state religion or even a consideration of one's religion or religious influence on matters of government were not only passed, but any idea to the contrary was voted not to even be considered by these so-called fundamentalist founders of our United States of America. Odd, I think, for anyone claiming this is a christian nation.