Scathan+Living Tribunal vs Lucifer+Michael

Originally posted by fangirl101

The Presence is The Presence. The Light and the GEB fought and merged I suppose. Kinda wierd. That was a DC story gone vertigo or something like that. Vertigo upsets things quite nicely cuz some stuff is canon to DC and stuff is not. Can never tell for sure.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Anyway, Lucifer is God's will. Mikey is God's power.

(although air legend proved conclusively that they posses their own power and will)

In which case a question was asked,
can both of them stalemate the Presence?

Originally posted by Mr Master
👆 Jun gave me a thorough explanation concerning the clash of canon and not in DC.

Sounds like they are "God"

(although air legend proved conclusively that they posses their own power and will)

In which case a question was asked,
can both of them stalemate the Presence?

Power wise, they probably could. But they lack something that the presence has, Omnicience. In that, he would figure a way to win, create a doubt in lucifer, or something like that. He would make mikey's power falter and back fire or something like that. I can't see them winning forever. But They could stalemate until the Presence looks into time and sees a victory.

It takes Supreme Will, Supreme Power, and Supreme Knowlege to be God. Even thanos with the heart had will and power, but didn't have the knowlege. Hence why he was used by the true God.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
That wasn't Scathan. That was TOAA himself.
Scathan is nothing but a mere pawn to TOAA.

You missed the point entirely.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Power wise, they probably could. But they lack something that the presence has, Omnicience. In that, he would figure a way to win, create a doubt in lucifer, or something like that. He would make mikey's power falter and back fire or something like that. I can't see them winning forever. But They could stalemate until the Presence looks into time and sees a victory.

It takes Supreme Will, Supreme Power, and Supreme Knowlege to be God.

So for the record, in your opinion,
you really believe Mike and Lucy would stalemate the Presence "power wise?"

Which basically translates to,
the Presence is not the supreme power in DC?

Originally posted by fangirl101

Even thanos with the heart had will and power,
but didn't have the knowlege. Hence why he was used by the true God.

TOAA is inconsequential,
because the THOTI/Thanos and the entire story, as well as all of Marvel,
was/is nothing but ink and paper to TOAA.

Originally posted by Mr Master
So for the record, in your opinion,
you really believe Mike and Lucy would stalemate the Presence "power wise?"

Which basically translates to,
the Presence is not the supreme power in DC?

That's nice,
but no one was ever going to stalemate or defeat THOTI (supreme power) in Marvel.

TOAA is inconsequential,
because the THOTI/Thanos and the entire story, as well as all of Marvel,
was/is nothing but ink and paper to TOAA.

Lucifer is God's Will. Mikey is God's power. Technically, God would be fighting with himself.

Thats crazy, they do not equal him at all, while meeting with there father he kept them from doing anything until he sent them back to the universe, they could do NOTHING..

👆

That's what I thought,
it didn't seem logical
that anyone (including everyone) in DC, could stalemate it's supreme being.

Thanx for clearing that up Kev.

Originally posted by kevdude
Thats crazy, they do not equal him at all, while meeting with there father he kept them from doing anything until he sent them back to the universe, they could do NOTHING..

Of course, He has ALL of the requirements to be the supreme being. As I said before. They only make up 2/3rds of a Supreme being.

Originally posted by fangirl101

Of course, He has ALL of the requirements to be the supreme being.
As I said before. They only make up 2/3rds of a Supreme being.

What I got from Kev and other DC cosmic pros,
is that they're insignificant to the Presence,
not 2/3rds, not a 1/2, but literally they are nothing to the Presence.

As it should be.

The Presence should be able to dispatch both Mike and Lucy
and the rest of DC with a gesture,
with a thought,
meh, with the thought, of a thought.

Presence>Michael

Team 2 still

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not even 1% of the Supreme being, even less than that into an infinitesimal dot.

What I got from Kev and other DC cosmic pros,
is that they're insignificant to the Presence,
not 2/3rds, not a 1/2, but literally they are nothing to the Presence.

As it should be.

The Presence should be able to dispatch both Mike and Lucy
and the rest of DC with a gesture,
with a thought,
meh, with the thought, of a thought.

Of course mike and lucy are still aspects of himself. I could if I wanted, rid myself of my arm. It is my arm. But that same arm allows me to do many things. nearly half of my activity would come from just my left arm. It is mine. It has my strength. And yet, If I wanted to, i could pwn it with any number of actions. If it had it's own mind, it would be able to put up a fight I suppose and still lose as the whole body would be greater than the part. Mike is still god's power. and Lucy is still God's will. either of them are too much for the LT and Scathan.

Yo Guy.
\I'd say Great Evil Beast could flick Lucy and Michael out of existence 😄 To add onto what Mr. M was saying about their power being insignificant to that of the Presence.

Originally posted by guy222
Presence>Michael

Team 2 still

The Presence could do that to The LT and scathan as well. Doesn't change the fact that mikey is still the power of God. TOAA could do the same to Thanos with the heart could he not? And yet thanos is above The LT and Scathan when in possession of the heart.

I say easily also

How u been friend

Originally posted by guy222
I say easily also

How u been friend

The evening is boring. But I'm good. And you?

Originally posted by fangirl101
The Presence could do that to The LT and scathan as well. Doesn't change the fact that mikey is still the power of God. TOAA could do the same to Thanos with the heart could he not? And yet thanos is above The LT and Scathan when in possession of the heart.

The Heart no longer exists

Marvel...TOAA>LT

DC...Presence>Michael>Lucifer>Spectre

I've been pretty good. Raining here a lot but that helps with the heat.
And yourself?

Originally posted by fangirl101
The evening is boring. But I'm good. And you?

Doin good, friend

U have a good evening. I'll be back in a bit

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
I've been pretty good. Raining here a lot but that helps with the heat.
And yourself?

Nice and cool in Cali

I'm doin good. My Dad is very sick. Keeping the faith

Kay. You have a good one and see you around.