Originally posted by fangirl101Of course mike and lucy are still aspects of himself. I could if I wanted, rid myself of my arm. It is my arm. But that same arm allows me to do many things. nearly half of my activity would come from just my left arm. It is mine. It has my strength. And yet, If I wanted to, i could pwn it with any number of actions. If it had it's own mind, it would be able to put up a fight I suppose and still lose as the whole body would be greater than the part.
Again, what?
What kind of an analogy is this?
If you cut your right arm off,
you can never have that right arm replaced with flesh and blood,
if you can only pleasure yourself with your right arm, and then you cut it off,
you'll have to learn how to do your thing with your left arm.
So you're dependent on that right arm for said actions
amongst so many others actions I haven't mentioned.
Now back to reality:
The Presence doesn't need Mike or Lucy for anything, anything at all.
The Presence can decide to make Batman Mike, or make Darkseid Lucy,
or heck, the Presence can simply decide to get rid of the divine hierarchy all together,
and he'd still be the Presence, with ALL of his ability/power/will and status,
meh,
the Presence wouldn't be affected at all with the nullification of Mike/Lucy
or all of DC for that matter.
Unlike you and your arm ... that was actually funny. 😂
So ...
Your analogy is way off friend.
Originally posted by fangirl101Mike is still god's power. and Lucy is still God's will.
either of them are too much for the LT and Scathan.
Originally posted by fangirl101LT has created how many realities on panel?
But if you must:
LT held in one hand the power of Two MegaverseS like a child's toys.
LT spins the destiny of the Alpha and Omega in the other hand.
The LT was once going to replace the 616 Reality with the Ultimate Universe,
to do that he would've had to reconfigure all of Marvel.
Originally posted by fangirl101He supplies how much energy to everything?
Originally posted by fangirl101Scathan has now many feats? Yeah.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Power wise, they probably could.
No they can't. Because everything that was given to them, was by God. God takes that away from that with less than a blink of an eye, if he wants. Everything TOAA could do within Omniverse, Protege could do (especially because Protege would do to LT and others what THOTI did, if there wasn't for Schatan, but THOTI would own Protege). But when they would face each other, Protege would really be nothing to TOAA.
Everything The Presence can do, Michael+Lucifer could do, but when they would face him, they would be nothing to him, if God would chose so.
Michael+Lucifer do not equal God, not even close.
Both of them combined wouldn't be able to stalemate God mostly because against Gyges and Garamas who had taken God's power after he left and they still haven't fully adapted to it, they were both useless attacking directly.
Anyway ..
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Living Tribunal/Scathan.
I'm willing to debate against Lucifer/Michael. Come on people, bring arguments. 😛
Originally posted by occultdestroyerMr. M, how can you refute this on-panel evidence?
Without a doubt, The Presence is more powerful than Scathan, LT, Michael, Spectre, and Lucifer combined.
When did I ever say
in this or any thread that Scathan and/or LT win or stalemate the Presence?
You got an itch with me, take it up with the Mods,
but don't be shouting my name out without reason, thanx. 🙂
In fact,
I was actually defending the Presence on page 2:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=487008&pagenumber=2
This cat claimed:
Originally posted by fangirl101Of course,
He has ALL of the requirements to be the supreme being.
As I said before.They (Michael & Lucifer) only make up 2/3rds of a Supreme being.
Originally posted by Mr MasterNot even 1% of the Supreme being,
even less than that into an infinitesimal dot.What I got from Kev and other DC cosmic pros,
is that they're insignificant to the Presence,
not 2/3rds, not a 1/2, but literally they are nothing to the Presence.As it should be.
The Presence should be able to dispatch both Mike and Lucy
and the rest of DC with a gesture,
with a thought,
meh, with the thought, of a thought.
Any how, as you can see,
I agree with your post. 🙂
Lucifer has taken the power that sustains all to the face and shaped it to his whim. The LT when facing the same type of power in the heart, which is where all energy from marvel came from according to the panels, got absorbed. Lucy>>>>>>>LT.
Mikey sustains all and supplied the power to create all. Scathan has beaten someone with LT's power and obviously none of his omnicience.
Team two wins HARD.
Originally posted by fangirl101Lucifer has taken the power that sustains all to the face and shaped it to his whim.
The LT when facing the same type of power in the heart,
which is where all energy from marvel came from according to the panels,
got absorbed.
If you're talking about Mike's energy,
which Lucy was created to shape,
you got nothing.
Mike doe NOT = the Presence.
I thought every Kev and every DC cosmic pro already updated you on that?
Meh, not surprisingly you return with the same claim as though you saw it.
Originally posted by fangirl101Lucy>>>>>>>LT.
See, it's easy to just post empty opinions.
Originally posted by fangirl101Mikey sustains all and supplied the power to create all.
yawn
Originally posted by fangirl101Scathan has beaten someone with LT's power
and obviously none of his omnicience.
You don't.
If Scathan is even = to the LT,
he's definitely outside the influence of LT's omniscience,
since they are = peers.
Originally posted by fangirl101Team two wins HARD.
Again,
it's easy to just post empty opinions.
Originally posted by fangirl101Lucy has never taken on a supreme being an dbeaten him by power alone. If you feel he has post the fight please.
Lucifer has taken the power that sustains all to the face and shaped it to his whim. The LT when facing the same type of power in the heart, which is where all energy from marvel came from according to the panels, got absorbed. Lucy>>>>>>>LT.Mikey sustains all and supplied the power to create all. Scathan has beaten someone with LT's power and obviously none of his omnicience.
Team two wins HARD.
Mikey sustains all the power for the vertigo universe not the dcu imo.
Scathan has a feat pwning someone with multiversal power. Show me a scan of either Michael or Lucy doing this please.
Originally posted by quanchi112Lucy has never taken on a supreme being an dbeaten him by power alone.
If you feel he has post the fight please.
Originally posted by quanchi112Scathan has a feat pwning someone with multiversal power.
Originally posted by Mr MasterTrue that. I just want to see a scan of either of these other two beating someone with multiversal power. I just keep hearing a downplaying of what the Lt and Scathan have done. I need to see some battle feats from this other team to even think they are in this fight.
👆If Protege copied LT's power, which he did,
then that would place Protege on an Omniversal scale. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Please, show us the Presence attacking Lucy and Lucy withstanding the attack.If you're talking about Mike's energy,
which Lucy was created to shape,
you got nothing.Mike doe NOT = the Presence.
I thought every Kev and every DC cosmic pro already updated you on that?
Meh, not surprisingly you return with the same claim as though you saw it.
LT>>>>>>>>Lucy.
See, it's easy to just post empty opinions.
The Alien Entity now embodies the "engines of creation" itself,
Past/Present/and Future.
Those engines are what create/sustain everythingyawn
And how do you know LT's omniscience is = to or greater than Scathan's?
You don't.
If Scathan is even = to the LT,
he's definitely outside the influence of LT's omniscience,
since they are = peers.Team one wins HARD.
Again,
it's easy to just post empty opinions.
Your entire post sucks. first and formost, there are no DC experts here. And there are certainly no marvel experts here. There are big mouths with opinions who think if they insult enough and post enough pics, they are somehow experts. Omnicience greater than omnicience. That sounds retarded. All knowing is just that. either you know all or you don't.
The heart of the universe doesn't equal the one above all. Your point about mike? try again.
Scathan isn't equal to the LT. since Scathan never defeated the LT. He only beat someone who copied the lt's abilities which rendered them outside of the LT's sphere of Judgment. Protege still didn't have the ability to judge scathan. That can only be given by the one above all.
A.Hole.!!
