What If???

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What if Vulcan had not stopped Black Bolt from exploding the terrigan bomb?

Something along the lines where everyone everywhere becomes inhumans and for a period there is a time of piece but peoples natural differences cause another war on the Kree/Skrull scale.

To try to stop the war that the Inhumans caused reed creates another bomb with the opposite effects as the terrigan bomb.This not only revereses the effects but it also turns all the inhumans into humans.

The Inhumans are cured and lead the Kree empire into a time of peace.

What if Jason Todd told Bruce he was done with all the killing and fighting and law breaking but, if Bruce didn't kill him or atleast Joker once n for all he was going to spill the beans on everything he knows about everything to the entire world.

Since I'm sure DC would never let mainstream DCU Batman become a killer outright. What would be your best guess for the ramifications of out comes for all the Batfamily, connected characters and even the rest of the DCU at large?

Originally posted by Entity
What if Jason Todd told Bruce he was done with all the killing and fighting and law breaking but, if Bruce didn't kill him or atleast Joker once n for all he was going to spill the beans on everything he knows about everything to the entire world.

Since I'm sure DC would never let mainstream DCU Batman become a killer outright. What would be your best guess for the ramifications of out comes for all the Batfamily, connected characters and even the rest of the DCU at large?


Batman would cop out and not kill Joker or Todd. He would be forced to play his hand and form Batman Inc earlier than in the normal DCU, going fully public along with the rest of the Bat family. They would become like the DCU's Fantastic Four - all identities known, fighting crime out in the open and using their vast fortunes, resources, and knowledge to bring greater benefit to Gotham and elsewhere than they ever did fighting crime from the shadows. Ultimately Gotham is cleaned up, becomes a model for other cities, and enters a new golden age of prosperity.

Humm yea I'm inclined to think it would probably go the exact oppisite direction with most of the Batfamily getting killed quickly by countless enemies coming outta the woodwork now knowing who it was they need to hurt in order to seek revenge. Also Bruce would most likely be attacked with nearly endless lawsuits targeting both his vigilante actions and new public image basically being raped by anyone believing they can make a dime off of it. And how many human rights groups and agencies would call into questions his actions and endangerment of how many young children both under his guardianship and not?

Not only that but I imagine similar issues and questions would rise about the JLA n Titan's funding and actions they've had dealing with behind closed doors. Also you have to consider every media paparazzi, criminal, lawyer, conman, and scavenger of all kinds will do all they can to take full advantage of this opportunity.

Most importantly you should remember it hardly even matters how many or even if any of these things are actually true. The mere questions and possibility is enough to cause the problems necessary to hurt the Wayne/Bat empire enough to bring it all crashing down!

Originally posted by Entity
Humm yea I'm inclined to think it would probably go the exact oppisite direction with most of the Batfamily getting killed quickly by countless enemies coming outta the woodwork now knowing who it was they need to hurt in order to seek revenge. Also Bruce would most likely be attacked with nearly endless lawsuits targeting both his vigilante actions and new public image basically being raped by anyone believing they can make a dime off of it. And how many human rights groups and agencies would call into questions his actions and endangerment of how many young children both under his guardianship and not?

Not only that but I imagine similar issues and questions would rise about the JLA n Titan's funding and actions they've had dealing with behind closed doors. Also you have to consider every media paparazzi, criminal, lawyer, conman, and scavenger of all kinds will do all they can to take full advantage of this opportunity.

Most importantly you should remember it hardly even matters how many or even if any of these things are actually true. The mere questions and possibility is enough to cause the problems necessary to hurt the Wayne/Bat empire enough to bring it all crashing down!

True, there would be problems. But the Fantastic Four dealt with a lot of these issues when they decided not to have secret identities. I mean for many years they lived in a public building with other tenants who were constantly endangered by attacks from everyone from the Frightful Four to Galactus. And I'm not sure he would deal with the whole situation any worse than Tony Stark running Stark Industries while publicly being Iron Man and funding the Avengers. Tony used to have a secret ID too.

And I'm sure the Bat Family can deal with lawyers, conmen, paparazzi and other lowlifes just like the FF would. In fact a lot of these guys would be just smart enough not to go up against Wayne. Sort of like the scene in TDK: "Let me get this straight: You think that your client, one of the wealthiest, most powerful men in the world, is secretly a vigilante who spends his nights beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands. And your plan is to blackmail this person? Good luck."

But yeah, dealing with child endangerment and so on would be difficult.

Still this is a What If and there are many ways it could play out...

What If The Chaos King was a separate being and Amatsu-Mikaboshi only ended up as a host for the Chaos King to inhabit so he can achieve his goals of returning the Multiverse into a state of Darkness and Chaos?

What If Galacta became an Avenger?

What if J'onn J'onzz and his Mars were part of Marvel 616 continuity. How would Marvel Earth, the Avengers, the X-Men and everything in Marvel be different?

What if Marvel n DC's Atlantis were suddenly switched along with all their common place characters without any explanation or even knowledge of the switch to any of them at first?

What If... Tony Stark had continued his affair with Janet Van Dyne and eventually married her?

Will it push the already crazed Pym to breaking point? And if so how far will he go for revenge?

What If... Pym had never suffered his breakdown at all?

At the early stages of his breakdown, before it became anything serious and anyone noticed, Pym happens to see Doctor Phil on tv. Recognizing some of the symptoms being discussed, he begins to read some self-help books and realizes none of his problems are insurmountable.

The Yellowjacket persona is never created, as he feels confident enough to marry Jan as he is. He never makes the later mistakes leading to his Avengers trial, never bitchslaps Jan, and learns to relax and enjoy life as a scientist and hero.

Your choice of alternate endings:
1) They live happily ever after and Pym becomes one of the most respected heroes on earth.
2) Sadly, Jan now finds him more boring than ever and leaves him for Tony.

What if Hal Jordan had really lost his arm when Larfleeze attempted to rip it off to get his blue lantern ring?

What If... Barack Obama (the Marvel Universe version) gained super powers?

I see this as a multi-story What If to allow for several results, e.g.
1) He gains only the power of say a Spider-Man level guy
2) He gains something like Professor X's mind control and tp, but nobody else knows.
3) He gains Superman level powers.
4) He gains transcendent reality manipulation powers.

The stories deal with whether he uses the power wisely or it corrupts him. Does he use his mind powers to subtly change the course of domestic and world politics? Does he hide the powers or reveal himself to the other heroes and the world? Does he resign as President or carry on? Does he resist the temptation to change the world into his own idea of perfection by reality manipulation?

Only the Watcher knows.

What if Hawkeye had decided to replace Cap during fallen son when Ironman had asked him too?
What if Hulk had actually went to the planet the Illuminate had meant to send him to instead of Sakaar?
What if Black Panther had agreed to join the Illuminate?
What if Magneto n Xavier had been born in each others place?
What if Cap had been given Deadpool's healing factor instead of Wade?
What if Spiderman had kept all his abilities from "The Other" n gained the Black Panther's from T'Challa giving him the heart shaped herb?

What if Peter had managed to refuse Mephisto's offer to save May? Could he have lived with himself after and what would his life be like now?

What If... Batman KILLED Guy Gardner?

This takes place in the Giffen League era, the famous scene where Batman punches Guy out. But this version of events goes differently...

Blue Beetle: "One punch! One punch!"

Black Canary: "What happened to him? Is he dead? Naw, we couldn't be that lucky..."

Mr Miracle: "He... actually doesn't appear to be breathing Batman."

Batman: "He's just unconscious. Leave him."

Martian Manhunter: "Batman- I'm not detecting any unconscious mental activity, nor can I hear a heartbeat or breathing."

Batman: "He's just unconscious. I just knocked him out."

Black Canary (examining the body): "Oh my god! The back of his head! When you punched him and he fell his head hit the floor... it-it cracked his skull! Batman, you killed him!"

Batman: "It-it was just one punch... you all saw! Just one punch! He-he's not dead he's just unconscious!"

And so the story goes from there. Does Batman turn himself in and go to jail or try to run? Do the League arrest him on the spot? Or does Batman escape and attempt to convince Zatanna to mindwipe everyone?

What If... ruby quartz did not block Cyclops' eye beams?

In this universe, even the special properties of ruby quartz do not stop the destructive power of Cyclops' eye beams. Instead, Cyclops is an even more tragic figure, forced to wear adamantium goggles which leave him totally blind.

What If... Pym killed Wolverine during Age of Ultron?

Wolverine travels back in time, intending to kill Pym and prevent Ultron from being created. But in this timeline, it is Wolverine himself who dies.

This time Wolverine travels back without Sue, breaks into Pym's lab, and immediately attacks him. Pym responds by growing into Giant Man and slamming Wolverine around, but Wolverine's healing factor allows him to take considerable punishment while inflicting multiple wounds with his claws. Pym has had enough - using Pym particles he shrinks Wolverine's head into a subatomic universe. He analyzes Wolverine's headless corpse and takes a sample of the adamantium, before disposing of the body by shrinking it down into a another microverse.

Later when Pym gets around to creating Ultron, the robot finds and steals the adamantium sample when it first overpowers Pym and escapes the lab. As a result the early Ultron models immediately incorporate the alloy into their design and are far more formidable than before. In this altered timeline the robot succeeds in killing the Avengers and other heroes and conquering the world even earlier than before. At this earlier point in their history the few surviving heroes and SHIELD do not have access to any time travel technology yet. Now the few survivors left have no means of traveling back in time to prevent the apocalypse.

Because of Wolverine's intervention the Age of Ultron never ends...

Originally posted by Entity

What if Cap had been given Deadpool's healing factor instead of Wade?

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Originally posted by basilisk

WHAT IF... Jesus not died? (in the Marvel Universe)

Jesus chooses not to die for the sins of man, but instead remains on earth to preach his beliefs, with diminished powers. Earth develops a different form of Christianity but still based on his beliefs and teachings.

As the centuries pass Jesus continues to use his abilities to help man, coming into conflict with beings such as Apocalypse, Selene, and Dracula, and living into the age of Marvels.

He becomes a founding member of the Avengers, even converting Thor to Christianity, and helping protect the world against the rise of a new generation of threats such as Dr. Doom, Magneto, and the Juggernaut, alien invasions, and supernatural incursions into the earthly plane.

Eventually, the star-god Galactus arrives to consume the earth. In the ensuing battle with earth's heroes the Silver Surfer is killed but Galactus cannot be stopped. Finally, rather than see his precious earth destroyed, Jesus chooses to become the new Herald of Galactus, pledging to lead him away from inhabited worlds and down a more peaceful path.
In return earth is spared, and once again Jesus becomes remembered for sacrificing himself for all mankind.

Originally posted by basilisk
[b]What If... Batman KILLED Guy Gardner?

This takes place in the Giffen League era, the famous scene where Batman punches Guy out. But this version of events goes differently...

Blue Beetle: "One punch! One punch!"

Black Canary: "What happened to him? Is he dead? Naw, we couldn't be that lucky..."

Mr Miracle: "He... actually doesn't appear to be breathing Batman."

Batman: "He's just unconscious. Leave him."

Martian Manhunter: "Batman- I'm not detecting any unconscious mental activity, nor can I hear a heartbeat or breathing."

Batman: "He's just unconscious. I just knocked him out."

Black Canary (examining the body): "Oh my god! The back of his head! When you punched him and he fell his head hit the floor... it-it cracked his skull! Batman, you killed him!"

Batman: "It-it was just one punch... you all saw! Just one punch! He-he's not dead he's just unconscious!"

And so the story goes from there. Does Batman turn himself in and go to jail or try to run? Do the League arrest him on the spot? Or does Batman escape and attempt to convince Zatanna to mindwipe everyone? [/B]

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What if Batman hadn't given up the Yellow Lantern ring?

Instead, realizing the potential as the perfect amalgam of utility belt and using fear as a weapon on crime and evil, he attempted to master the ring and use it to take over the Sinestro Corps. Remaking it into the much more powerful much broader intergalactic scope Batman Inc!

Could he use his mind, will, manipulation of fear and strategic skills to:
Master the ring?
Keep the ring to use as he saw fit?
Over throw Sinestro?
Reform the Corps?
Manage an entire Corps of Fear Lantern Ring wielding Batman Incorporated?

And lastly could he manage to find a way to contain or somehow deal with Parallax to continue using the light for Justice?

Originally posted by Entity
What if Batman hadn't given up the Yellow Lantern ring?

Instead, realizing the potential as the perfect amalgam of utility belt and using fear as a weapon on crime and evil, he attempted to master the ring and use it to take over the Sinestro Corps. Remaking it into the much more powerful much broader intergalactic scope Batman Inc!

Could he use his mind, will, manipulation of fear and strategic skills to:
Master the ring?
Keep the ring to use as he saw fit?
Over throw Sinestro?
Reform the Corps?
Manage an entire Corps of Fear Lantern Ring wielding Batman Incorporated?

And lastly could he manage to find a way to contain or somehow deal with Parallax to continue using the light for Justice?


Dont forget about the current ring slinging space cops the GLC, they will have something to say about batman and his plans.