Originally posted by SpyCspider
lol and i don't think arnold wants anything to do with this franchise once he's 70. He's not that desperate. Sure, lending his face for CGI in T4 was a gift to fans, but he's not actively seeking to be in anything Terminator-related.
as for as i know Arnold is going to be in T5 unless something happens and he will not be... Personally I hope he is in a few scenes and nothing too big
LOL check this out..
Originally posted by SpyCspider
Except Batman Begins was actually critically acclaimed everywhere despite only modest financial success. That's clear enough signal to go ahead and make a sequel.I'm sure they'll make a T5, but right now all I hear are flat trumpet sounds with T4.
Batman Begins was acclaimed, cost about $140 million, grossed $200 million in North America ( and the same amount worldwide.)
Terminator Salvation is derided by critics, cost about $200 million, didn't even open at number one (and opened at much less than Wolverine, Star Trek, Night of The Museum 2 & Up), and dropped 65%-70% in it's second week. It's on pace to gross less than $130 million in North America.
The numbers can't be any more stark than that. After the last film did just OK, this one doing even less means NO MORE SERIES. As we know it.
It's not unlike what happened to the Alien series after 3 & 4 - they waited several years, then went with the Alien vs. Predator series.
Something is going to change - not a versus series (Alien & Predator are both owned by Fox), but a reboot. Like I've been saying.
For those yet to see Salvation here is a good recap on the Terminator series so far http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTcvYL3RQzE&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=E13126D787AF419C
Originally posted by Kazenji
I actually like this movie and was alot better then T3 imo and also i don't know whats all this stuff about the plot is too confusing or does'nt make sense8.5/10
well a few things are ret-conned but seeing as to how the whole timeline changed after the events of T2, pretty much anything goes
stuff that changed are:
-John Connor was never put in the SkyNet concentration camps
-Kyle apparently never got a bar code tattoo
-T-800's were made a lot earlier
-and some other stuff, i guess
and the thing most people were confused about is why SkyNet would want to kill John and Kyle even though they are nothing special right now, i have a theory stated in my earlier post
Originally posted by stickman618
well a few things are ret-conned but seeing as to how the whole timeline changed after the events of T2, pretty much anything goesstuff that changed are:
-John Connor was never put in the SkyNet concentration camps
-Kyle apparently never got a bar code tattoo
-T-800's were made a lot earlier
-and some other stuff, i guess
well all of that obvisouly comes back to this quote
"The future's not set. There's no fate but what we make for ourselves."
and the thing most people were confused about is why SkyNet would want to kill John and Kyle even though they are nothing special right now, i have a theory stated in my earlier post
Maybe skynet from another timeline is working with the skynet in the timeline from the movies.
i try not to think about what the timeline of Terminator
sure the future's not set, but apparently Judgment day is inevitable
and who would've been John's father if Reese didn't go back in time?
and would Sarah have taught John all that stuff if it wasn't for Reese?
see what i mean? "it messes with your head"
Originally posted by stickman618Well, quite honestly, as much as I loved T2...it kind of mucked up the whole time travel thing. It would be a nice predestination paradox if the future was already written and you couldn't change it.
i try not to think about what the timeline of Terminatorsure the future's not set, but apparently Judgment day is inevitable
and who would've been John's father if Reese didn't go back in time?
and would Sarah have taught John all that stuff if it wasn't for Reese?
see what i mean? "it messes with your head"
Originally posted by KazenjiI understand what you're trying to say, but that...isn't anywhere close to the point I was trying to make. Just because it happens in "other series," doesn't mean it had to happen in Terminator. If Judgement day happened, then it happened. By insisting that it could have been changed, rather than just insinuating as they did in the first, is how they mucked it up; if they didn't do that, perhaps just having the characters believing that they could change it but in the end they actually couldn't, then they wouldn't have mucked it up. Plus, me saying they mucked it up isn't a bad thing, I'm just saying, the root of everyone's problems with time travel in the Terminator series stems from T2 not the original Terminator. In the original Terminator, its a predestination paradox, simple as that: Kyle Reese was always John Connor's father, Skynet always created their arch enemy in John Connor, it always happened that way. By saying that the future can be changed in T2, and that theoretically Sarah could have been killed in Terminatior, they basically created alternate time-lines where perhaps John Connor had a different father, where Skynet didn't beget itself.
I don't see how it mucked up the time travel thing. Its happens alot with other series "one characters says this happen in his future but something else happens instead" i can name another one that happens like that DBZ.
just saw terminator 4 great Fu??ING movie i dont give a flying FU?K what critics say it was far better then that star trek movie that had me napping half way through it.terminator 4 much better then the third terminator movie. it makes sense it ties all the other three films together no FU?CKING confusion there.
Originally posted by dj slade
just saw terminator 4 great Fu??ING movie i dont give a flying FU?K what critics say it was far better then that star trek movie that had me napping half way through it.terminator 4 much better then the third terminator movie. it makes sense it ties all the other three films together no FU?CKING confusion there.
i actually liked the Star Trek movie, then again i'm not a fan of the original 😄
and yeah, i don't know why critics say it's so bad