Originally posted by UtrigitaIf Franklin get the required time to prepare the attack against IB
Vanguaard didn't have time to stop him from doing it,
and Vanguaard is far beyond the IB.
Originally posted by Utrigitaand his opposite which most likely would be hyperstorm
which in my opinion would defeat Franklin quiet handily.
btw.
A starving Galactus curbstomped Hyperbole, I mean Hyperstorm effortlessly.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, Psi-Lord generated his anti-matter universal Big Bang in one page.Vanguaard didn't have time to stop him from doing it,
and Vanguaard is far beyond the IB.
He did yes but it toke time it wasn't instant which was my point.
Vanguaard doesn't have the soulgem. Also one thing is that Franklin can utilize the blast another thing entirely is if he will do it.
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Originally posted by Mr Master
Hyperstorm is an alternate Franklin Richard's son, not his opposite.btw.
A starving Galactus curbstomped Hyperbole, I mean Hyperstorm effortlessly.
I said that his opposite most likely would be Hyperstorm 😉 not that it was his definitive opposite.
A starving Galactus is no joke. And the Narrator mentioned that Hyperstorm would become the most powerful mutant on the planet, that he is below HoM Wanda and MJJ is however not argueable, however nearly all on the forum placed him on a there top five in the most powerful mutants thread.
Originally posted by UtrigitaHe did yes but it toke time it wasn't instant which was my point.
It was quick enough:
Grant it, he obviously didn't cause this Big Bang with a thought,
but notice Vanguaard in the background coming at him,
and still he managed to build up the anti-matter energies to implode that Universe.
I know he did this very quickly, (besides that it was done in 3 panels)
cause Vanguaard is a being that traverses the Omniverse,
jumping from one reality to the next at a whim.
Originally posted by UtrigitaVanguaard doesn't have the soulgem.
Exactly.
Originally posted by UtrigitaAlso one thing is that Franklin can utilize the blast
another thing entirely is if he will do it.
Originally posted by UtrigitaI said that his opposite most likely would be Hyperstorm
not that it was his definitive opposite.
Originally posted by UtrigitaA starving Galactus is no joke.
Originally posted by UtrigitaAnd the Narrator mentioned
that Hyperstorm would become the most powerful mutant on the planet
Hyperstorm is awesome on paper, and could've been something special,
and he had a few feats, nothing major,
but, the character, like that narrator's statement,
are truly hyperbolic.
Originally posted by Utrigitahowever nearly all on the forum
placed him on a there top five in the most powerful mutants thread.
btw. I didn't. 🙂
That he did, however I'm surprised that Vanguaard simply didn't just attack him earlier ore used his ability to transfer himself directly to him, instead he flew towards him.
Does that mean that he cannot use it Master? It's no different from the attack performed by Franklin Richards in this instant from my point of view.
Just like IB are, that includes the powers of the soulgem dependent on which version of IB.
Like blowing up at least solar systems and a watcher like having enough power to destroy both the negative zone and the 616 reality even though he was extremely weakened, fending off the Starjammers, Gladiator, the FF, the Avengers and the Shi'ar navy while mad with hunger, there is more then one side of a starving Galactus master. 🙂
Was what you fifth choice then?
Originally posted by UtrigitaThat he did, however I'm surprised that Vanguaard simply didn't just attack him earlier ore used his ability to transfer himself directly to him, instead he flew towards him.
Originally posted by UtrigitaDoes that mean that he cannot use it Master? It's no different from the attack performed by Franklin Richards in this instant from my point of view.
Just like IB are,
that includes the powers of the soulgem dependent on which version of IB.
IB had the Soul Gem for the briefest of moments.
btw. Original IB never had the Soul Gem, current IB doesn't either.
So unless the thread starter specifies an IB with the Soul Gem,
he doesn't get to have it.
Thread starter said "classic IB" ... which I'm figuring means the origianal IB,
in which case he didn't have the Soul Gem, Warlock did.
Originally posted by UtrigitaLike blowing up at least solar systems and a watcher
Originally posted by Utrigitalike having enough power to destroy
both the negative zone and the 616 reality
even though he was extremely weakened
Let me know when that happens besides being stated.
Better yet,
let me know when a hungry G takes out a simple alternate reality,
before we move up to hungry G taking out not only the Negative Zone,
but also the Reality that contains the infinite power of the Multiverse. (616)
You gotta be laughing with me Ut.
Originally posted by Utrigitafending off the Starjammers, Gladiator, the FF, the Avengers and the Shi'ar navy while mad with hunger,
there is more then one side of a starving Galactus master.
Meh, still just heroes.
Originally posted by Mr Master
It is, what it is.
Yes it is.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, unlike Psi-Lord who did use his Universe destroying power, on panel,
IB has never implemented the Soul Gem, not ever.
(there's no reason to believe he ever would)IB had the Soul Gem for the briefest of moments.
btw. Original IB never had the Soul Gem, current IB doesn't either.
So unless the thread starter specifies an IB with the Soul Gem,
he doesn't get to have it.
Okay.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Thread starter said "classic IB" ... which I'm figuring means the origianal IB,
in which case he didn't have the Soul Gem, Warlock did.
Yes he did.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nice.
Yes it is a nice feat.
Originally posted by Mr Master
... So now a weakened G is > Eternity? ... 😆 ... More hyperbole.Let me know when that happens besides being stated.
Better yet,
let me know when a hungry G takes out a simple alternate reality,
before we move up to hungry G taking out not only the Negative Zone,
but also the Reality that contains the infinite power of the Multiverse. (616)You gotta be laughing with me Ut.
Frankly Master I isn't laughning at all when it concerns any member bringing forward Galactus low showings and makes fun of them (sorry). A weakened Galactus that was going to be turned into a bomb by Annihilus, Annihilus knew it was possible, Thanos knew it was possible, the only reason it never happened on panel was because Thanos intervened in the complete and utter destruction of the 616 reality and Negative Zone was never brought to show because of that fact, it was the only reason Thanos turned towards Annihilus because he wanted to stop "the bomb".
Also master I'm a bit disappointed by you, you want to see a scan ore a showing of Galactus taking out a alternate universe when you yourself have argued for that such a incident will never been shown on panel because it simply isn't Galactus Natur nore his interest to destroy anything unless there is no other way.
Originally posted by Mr Master
FF alone have also owned hungry G.Meh, still just heroes.
FF have owned him how many times to be exact under there own powerset? Ore are it's the UN incident you are refering too, hell if Galactus wanted he can easily make copies of the fantastic four and have them battle themselves.
Heroes that have been proven powerless against him in plenty of other scenarios.
Edit, to be frank yes you touched a nerve 😛
Originally posted by UtrigitaFrankly Master I isn't laughning at all when it concerns any member bringing forward Galactus low showings and makes fun of them (sorry). A weakened Galactus that was going to be turned into a bomb by Annihilus, Annihilus knew it was possible, Thanos knew it was possible, the only reason it never happened on panel was because Thanos intervened in the complete and utter destruction of the 616 reality and Negative Zone was never brought to show because of that fact, it was the only reason Thanos turned towards Annihilus because he wanted to stop "the bomb".
I'm bringing up HUNGRY Galactus' showings,
which are pertinent to that hyperbolic claim, since he was, well ... HUNGRY.
On that note, as for the hyperbolic statements you're buying into,
if hungry Galactus can destroy the power of the infinite Multiverse,
then Rachel, a sub-par Phoenix avatar is beyond Multiversal,
since Rachel, while accessing a portion of the Force one shotted hungry Galactus,
this also means, Quasar & Thor are beyond, beyond Multiversal,
since Quasar handled her, and Thor one-shotted her.
I'm simply not going to accept that friend.
Also, what's a chump like Annihilus doing controlling Galactus anyway?
I'm going to re-read the relevant issues,
and see what exactly are the stipulations behind this claim,
then I'll return.
Originally posted by UtrigitaAlso master I'm a bit disappointed by you, you want to see a scan ore a showing of Galactus taking out a alternate universe when you yourself have argued for that such a incident will never been shown on panel because it simply isn't Galactus Natur nore his interest to destroy anything unless there is no other way.
Unlike in Annihilation, where no such depiction even as an allusion exists.
So yea, it's not in Galactus' character to destroy realities,
and yea, I've supported that case,
but yet,
there is proof, that Galactus has, and can affect reality across all creation.
(but this level of infinite potential begins at his satiated state,
where he can from there, potentially absorb, in-definitely)
Grant it, he couldn't reach a level of satiation, due to the tampering,
but that's always been my question, can he consciously make himself insatiable?
I' don't know, and there's no evidence to establish factual answer.
Originally posted by UtrigitaFF have owned him how many times to be exact under there own powerset? Ore are it's the UN incident you are refering too, hell if Galactus wanted he can easily make copies of the fantastic four and have them battle themselves.
Heroes that have been proven powerless against him in plenty of other scenarios.
Originally posted by UtrigitaEdit, to be frank yes you touched a nerve
Then my I ask why you are dwelling with the Heroes and Thors Godblast against Odin? And I'm not trying to make you look as a Big G Hater Master, I'm like you merely stating fact about Galactus and fact is that the heroes have only won because of PIS.
It wasn't exactly Annihilus more Thanos that did all the work.
And no need looking the relevant scans.
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1410/galactusuniversefeatno4.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3076/galactusuniversefeat1ob8.jpg
And I'm too bringing up showings for Galactus, difference between the two is that yours are a hungry Galactus mine is a starving, also a Hungry Galactus has teleported a entire Galaxy across space and time hardly a low showing.
I accept it because it has been stated on panel that Galactus has within him the power to destroy both the 616 reality and the Negative Zone, The persons however you are mentioning have never been put directly into the idea that equals the destruction of two universes. From my point of view that is the difference.
No you cannot show me that he does it, you can show me the backpanel by the Writer to be exact, also Galactus had at that point of time had a battle over millinia with Ecce, reaching into himself to draw out the last energy he managed to defeat Ecce, to me it doesn't sound like a well fed Galactus accomplishing this feat.
Because it never came to that, just like Galactus never actually began absorbing the omniverse.
Really when has Galactus affected all Realities across the Omniverse?
No need for Galactus to begin tampering with himself his boundless hunger can never truly be satiated
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Oneshotted Uatu (alternate reality) Oneshotted a Watcher (616 Reality/Canon), made exact Copies of the Fantastic Four, weakened withstood a "assault" from Xaviar using the entire skrull throne worlds population as a "sword", Defeated the Proimael gods which invidividually is above Beyonders essence. He has low showings agreed but when they are mentioned his high shall be mentioned as well.
And I'm doing the same 😄
Originally posted by UtrigitaThen my I ask why you are dwelling with the Heroes
and Thors Godblast against Odin?
Originally posted by UtrigitaAnd I'm not trying to make you look as a Big G Hater Master, I'm like you merely stating fact about Galactus and fact is that the heroes have only won because of PIS.
Again, I brought out HUNGRY Galactus' showings only.
Originally posted by UtrigitaIt wasn't exactly Annihilus more Thanos that did all the work.
And no need looking the relevant scans.
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1410/galactusuniversefeatno4.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3076/galactusuniversefeat1ob8.jpg
That's just the hyperbolic statements we were discussing.
I most definitely need to look into the relevant issues.
Originally posted by UtrigitaAnd I'm too bringing up showings for Galactus, difference between the two is that yours are a hungry Galactus mine is a starving, also a Hungry Galactus has teleported a entire Galaxy across space and time hardly a low showing.
Don't me chuckle again.
Originally posted by UtrigitaI accept it because it has been stated on panel that Galactus has within him the power to destroy both the 616 reality and the Negative Zone, The persons however you are mentioning have never been put directly into the idea that equals the destruction of two universes. From my point of view that is the difference.
Cool.
Originally posted by UtrigitaNo you cannot show me that he does it,
you can show me the backpanel by the Writer to be exact
Writer's own words, >>> whatever.
Originally posted by Utrigitaalso Galactus had at that point of time had a battle over millinia with Ecce, reaching into himself to draw out the last energy he managed to defeat Ecce, to me it doesn't sound like a well fed Galactus accomplishing this feat.
In fact,
Galactus still had ALL the energy he ever collected across his lifetime,
and that was what he released.
Same thing happened when Reed and company returned G to his natural state,
infinite energy radiated out of him, which would continue radiating for ever.
Originally posted by UtrigitaBecause it never came to that,
just like Galactus never actually began absorbing the omniverse.
It was 616 Galactus' future-self, he was absorbing his future Reality/Universe,
which is part of the Omniverse, if he hadn't stopped himself,
ALL Existence would've been absorbed.
Unlike the ONE issue, hyperbole in Annihilation,
this was stated across THREE different titles. (Avengers/FF/GOTG)
And the beginning of that process was depicted in the Black Celestial arc.
Originally posted by UtrigitaReally when has Galactus affected all Realities across the Omniverse?
Originally posted by Mr Masterthere is proof, that Galactus can affect reality across all creation.
(but this level of infinite potential begins at his satiated state,
where he can from there, potentially absorb, in-definitely)
Originally posted by UtrigitaNo need for Galactus to begin tampering with himself
his boundless hunger can never truly be satiatedhttp://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fantasticfourv141431hy9.jpg
Dude, Reed is speaking in general, not specifics,
Reed is saying that Galactus needs to continue feeding through out his existence,
which is true,
not that his hunger is never appeased.
His hunger is satitaed everytime he feeds on a Planet,
then about month later, he gets hungry again, and must feed again.
Originally posted by UtrigitaOneshotted Uatu (alternate reality) Oneshotted a Watcher (616 Reality/Canon), made exact Copies of the Fantastic Four, weakened withstood a "assault" from Xaviar using the entire skrull throne worlds population as a "sword"
Red Hulk just one-shotted Uatu. 😛
Originally posted by UtrigitaDefeated the Proimael gods which invidividually is above Beyonders essence.
Actually no. 🙂
Originally posted by UtrigitaHe has low showings agreed
but when they are mentioned his high shall be mentioned as well.
Hyperbolic statements ain't gonna do it either,
so you might as well research for something that actually did happen.
Against Galactus sorry.
A hungry Galactus low showings only to be precise.
Please by all means.
Based on the story in some way yes, for all we know Galactus could work the same way Psi-Lord antimatter blast did imploding the universe, all we know is that Thanos found the scenario very real indeed.
No I isn't again the difference is that Galactus has been put directly into a context that describes how he can bring about the destruction of the 616 reality and the negative zone, Quasar, Thor and Rachel has never been put into that context that they can be used to destroy two universes has they?
Which was my point you said on panel which wasn't correct as it wasn't shown I isn't disagreeing with the writer just you choice of words 😛
Energy that is only released when he dies also the majority of the energy that he stores within him is reserved for keeping Abraxas away as you well known.
Can you show me where he begins absorbing the omniverse on panel, to my knowlegde he was destroyed before he was finished with the Relevant Universe.
Cool, though I was getting excited 😮
He eats one planet because it, yes as you say, satisfy him, however does that mean that he cannot absorb far more then a planet and still not be absorb more? The incident in Secret Wars springs to mind where Galactus was going to absorb first Taa II, then the Sun and then the World the heroes was on, Taa II was (by reed account) arguably the largest energy source in the Universe and it still wasn't enough for Galactus he could still feed without problems, he just chooses to feed on one planet because it is enough that is why all the Black Celestial had to change was the way he feel his hunger 🙂
PIS 😛
That they was above Beyonder essence ore that he defeated them?
A low showing that destroyed three solar systems and a watcher has failed to impress you? Holding off against the entire Shi'ar Fleet, the Avengers, Starjammers, Gladiator and the FF, Teleporting a Galaxy with a gesture, Creating exact copies of the FF (power and all), if this does not the slightest impres you then I will most likely not find something that will.
