inbetweener vs franklin richards(psi lord)

Originally posted by Utrigita

Against Galactus sorry.

Against Rachel Yes, so ... sorry back at ya:

Rachel vs Hungry Galactus:

"I have need of sustenance"

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And as we all know,
as Galactus' historical data confirms,
as it's always been,
because he's in need of sustenance,
he gets owned like a sucka by Rachel:

Owned!

"You have NOT the Strength to Continue this conflict"

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The same power (Rachel) that just easily owned Hungry Galactus,

gets handled by Quasar:

The same power (Rachel) that just easily owned Hungry Galactus,

gets stomped by Thor:

Originally posted by Utrigita

A hungry Galactus low showings only to be precise.

As if he has any high showings.

Originally posted by Utrigita

Based on the story in some way yes

I can't believe
you think hungry (or even normal) Galactus is above Eternity. 😆

I should just let this debate go now
since we've entered the realm of absurdness.

But, I'll just finish this up, then you go on thinking what you wish.

Originally posted by Utrigita

for all we know
Galactus could work the same way Psi-Lord antimatter blast did imploding the universe.

"Like Psi-Lord did?" ...
... So now you're going to bring unsupported speculation into the debate.

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"for all we know" ...

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What we know is that Galactus released his power,
his real power, the power he uses to battle,
and ONLY 3 Solar Systems were destroyed.

"Herald my RAGE!"

btw. There's like over 100 Billion Star Systems in the Milky Way Galaxy.

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So incredible was his 616/Negative Zone destroying power,

that Annihilus shield's himself and survives:

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So incredible was his 616/Negative Zone destroying power,

that Nova shield's himself, while simultaneously protecting Phyla-vell & Peter:

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I suppose you think their all above Eternity too? ... 🙂

Originally posted by Utrigita

all we know is that Thanos found the scenario very real indeed.

"all we know"

All we know is that hungry Galactus got stomped by Rachel,
but somehow you believe hungry Galactus is above Eternity.

Ut, I think you're cool, but, this isn't looking good.

I sincerely hope you're just playing around.

Originally posted by Utrigita

No I isn't again the difference is that Galactus has been put directly into a context that describes how he can bring about the destruction of the 616 reality and the negative zone, Quasar, Thor and Rachel has never been put into that context that they can be used to destroy two universes has they?

Rachel has never destroyed Two Universes,
not even one, (just like hungry Galactus has never either)
but she stomped hungry Galactus.

Originally posted by Utrigita

Which was my point you said on panel which wasn't correct
as it wasn't shown I isn't disagreeing with the writer just you choice of words

My choice of words were right on point dude.

On Panel the writer described what happened,
doesn't need to be shown,
John Byrne wasn't speaking hypothetically,
ol' Johnny (in detail) explained what happened.

And if (with his name printed) on panel
he personally said what happened,
then it happened.

Like I said, his name is clearly in red bold,
to assure us it's how the story ends.

Originally posted by Utrigita

Energy that is only released when he dies

Finally, now you understand good friend.

THIS is the energy that is infinite,
the energy withIN Galactus's armor, his essence really.

You see, you're confusing what Galactus contains,
with what Galactus can output in terms of power.

There are two sides to Galactus' energies,
there's the energy he uses to battle, that needs replenishment, ("I have need of sustenance"😉
and there's the energy withIN his armor that will serve a purpose in the future,
that is,
the energy he'll need to create/become the new Marvel Universe.

This energy has been released TWICE! (once in 616, and once in the future)

When Reed and co. "killed" him in 616,
he returned to his natural state (a Star made up of infinite energy)

The reason it did not re-create the Marvel Universe,
is because it was an un-natural transformation,
this is why Abraxas instead manifested.

But when Galactus acted on his own, ripping his own armor apart,
the natural transition took place, and the next Marvel Universe was created.

Originally posted by Utrigita

also the majority of the energy that he stores within him
is reserved for keeping Abraxas away as you well known.

Nah, Galactus keeps Abraxas in check as long as he's withIN his armor. (alive)

Interestingly enough, as the scan reads, it was Eternity himself
who created the infinite amount of Galactus' across the Multiverse,
yet, you believe a hungry Galactus is above Eternity.

Originally posted by Utrigita

Can you show me where he begins absorbing the omniverse on panel,
to my knowlegde he was destroyed before he was finished with the Relevant Universe.

Statements ... across three different corresponding arcs

Avengers comic:

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"Celestial renegade (Taimut) constructed a weapon (Galactus)
mighty enough to threaten the ENTIRE Space-Time structure of the OMNIVERSE"

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MAKE NO MISTAKE!

The weapon is Galactus! (FF comic)

"Galactus Himself is the WEAPON"

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GOTG comic

"Galactus' appetite became insatiable
and it threatened to consume All Existence"

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FF comic

"The time will come soon when ALL the Energy in the UNIVERSE,
through out it's HISTORY will NOT be SUFFICIENT to feed him"

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In this same FF comic (Black Celestial arc)

We see Galactus in the process of absorbing the Omniverse,
which is all of HISTORY ... which is ALL Existence!

"Galactus who's busy wolfin' (eating) down ALL of TIME and SPACE"

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Luckily, he did stop himself by erasing himself from that future existence.

Originally posted by Utrigita

He eats one planet because it, yes as you say, satisfy him, however does that mean that he cannot absorb far more then a planet and still not be absorb more? The incident in Secret Wars springs to mind where Galactus was going to absorb first Taa II, then the Sun and then the World the heroes was on, Taa II was (by reed account) arguably the largest energy source in the Universe and it still wasn't enough for Galactus he could still feed without problems, he just chooses to feed on one planet because it is enough that is why all the Black Celestial had to change was the way he feel his hunger

I never said he couldn't continue to feeding.

But there's no clear indication that he can absorb all UniverseS without the tampering.

Although to his credit,
it was his own capacity to absorb that was doing the work,
Taimut only made it so he couldn't stop.

So perhaps, indeed, more than possibly, he can do this on his own,
but we can't say for certain.

Originally posted by Utrigita

That they was above Beyonder essence ore that he defeated them?

I know he imprisoned the old timers,
but there's no proof that any of them were above Beyonder's essence.

Please don't bring out another unprovable/unsupported single statement.

Originally posted by Utrigita

A low showing that destroyed three solar systems

For a power that was supposed to destroy 616 and the Negative Zone?

Heck YEA!!!

Originally posted by Utrigita

and a watcher has failed to impress you?

You keep bringing up that Watcher that decided to enjoy the scenic view,
while obliteration was heading his way.

What a bone-head Watcher.

As if that Watcher couldn't have escaped in countless ways that wave coming at him,
not to mention that Annihilus/Quantum Bands was able to shield himself,
and Nova, who shielded himself and two others
meh, but let's make sense out of it shall we.

You're so intent on "statements" in this debate,
well, it's been stated, yes on panel, that a Watcher chooses to die:

When we take into consideration that Annihilus and Nova (while shielding others)
were able to withstand Galactus' omni-directional RAGE!

I'd say it's safe to say that Watcher chose to allow himself to be incinerated,
I mean as you're so clinging onto "on panel statements"
it was stated on panel after all.

stoned

Originally posted by Utrigita

Holding off against the entire Shi'ar Fleet, the Avengers, Starjammers, Gladiator and the FF, Teleporting a Galaxy with a gesture, Creating exact copies of the FF (power and all), if this does not the slightest impres you then I will most likely not find something that will.

Not impressed,
although I'd like to see the hungry G man teleporting a Galaxy with a gesture,
that's a cool feat,
but it doesn't impress me enough
when we see hungry Galactus stomping Hyperstorm
who was supposed to be connected to infinite energy.

Which is what our debate is all about,
imo,
Hyperstorm was ridiculously over-rated because he was stomped by a hungry Galactus,
your argument is,
well hungry Galactus has the feats to prove he's capable of stomping Hyperstorm while hungry,
I haven't seen anything, anything at all that even tickles that notion as a possibility.

So,
we're left at, Hyperstorm truly is the epitome of Hyperbole!