I'm not from CBR, this is the only comic board I've ever posted on and the only other comic message board who's rules I'm familiar with.
So your suspension of disbelief deems it possible to remove gravity but not grab energy? Your suspension of disbelief is pretty wacky.
Now, are you going to stop trolling/baiting, or will you provide some instances of Surfer using your tactics in a fight?
Originally posted by B dot Rob
I have, and I have not seen scans to show where your scenario falls in character.Which tells me Hulk has a better chance of getting mad enough to grab and throw Surfer's energy blasts back at him (he's grabbed energy before, broken it too, IIRC) then Surfer does of using your methods of incapacitation.
Hulk's actually grabbed energy (mid fight as well IIRC) before, has Surfer removed someone's gravity and manipulated their soundwaves?
Originally posted by B dot Rob
He hasn't. Like how Surfer has never removed someone's gravity and manipulated their thunderclaps energies.
I understand that, and Surfer can win by staying in-character and using his established in-battle abilities to the fullest. Removing Hulk's gravity, removing the air in his vicinity, and looking at him until he calms down (WWH doesn't calm down) or whatever seems as in-character as creating blackholes inside Hulk's skull.
Originally posted by B dot Rob
I understand that, and Surfer can win by staying in-character and using his established in-battle abilities to the fullest. Removing Hulk's gravity, removing the air in his vicinity, and looking at him until he calms down (WWH doesn't calm down) or whatever seems as in-character as creating blackholes inside Hulk's skull.
By the same token, I've never seen Surfer manipulate gravity on the battlefield to gain an advantage over his opponent during a fight before but I've seen him manipulate exotic energy types in other ways several times during combat so I don't consider it a stretch for him to do so here. You might be able to make the case that Surfer wouldn't think to use that tactic since he hasn't done it before, but you can't really say that it's the kind of thing he'd stay clear of if the need for it became apparent.
Goober, I wouldn't waste any more time on this guy. I get the feeling that to him the KMC rules are not "in character".
*points to the PIS rule that specifically cites examples that happen in the comics not being viable here.*
"Flash fights lasting more than three panels". So to the troll here it wouldn't be in character to fight at full capacity.
Originally posted by darthgoober
But those things ARE "in character" for him because he often finishes off fights with exotic methods similar to those. Personally I've never seen the Hulk hit someone with the Leaning Tower of Pisa before, but I wouldn't say that it was "out of character" for him to do so in a forum fight because I've seen him hit his opponents with other large objects during fights on numerous occasions.By the same token, I've never seen Surfer manipulate gravity on the battlefield to gain an advantage over his opponent during a fight before but I've seen him manipulate exotic energy types in other ways several times during combat so I don't consider it a stretch for him to do so here. You might be able to make the case that Surfer wouldn't think to use that tactic since he hasn't done it before, but you can't really say that it's the kind of thing he'd stay clear of if the need for it became apparent.
Ya but I think it's a stretch to say a tactic Surfer has never used in battle will be fully utilized in this fight, taking that tactic as the end all citing this is why Hulk can never beat the Surfer, then crying to a mod when someone asks you to actually show Surfer doing it.
Hulk has utilized weaponization in combat before, so it's probably safe to say he would use a weapon like a lamp post or car in battle. On the same token, I don't think you can claim Hulk would catch Surfer's energy beams and throw them back because he's held energy before. Just like how I don't think you can seriously claim Surfer will use a tactic in battle that through his 40 year career you can't find one instance of him using.