World War Hulk vs Silver Surfer with a twist.

Started by janus777 pages

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
What gods?

I think he used an astral plane attack on UniLord. he also did it in a recent comic, iirc.

does anyone have scans of the fight between hulk and silver surfer from planet hulk?

Originally posted by bbrem123
does anyone have scans of the fight between hulk and silver surfer from planet hulk?

Sure...
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6033/incrediblehulk95010km7.jpg
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http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4706/incrediblehulk95015bv3.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7258/incrediblehulk95016hp1.jpg

so the surfer is better then hulk in hand to hand?

Originally posted by bbrem123
so the surfer is better then hulk in hand to hand?

Well Surfer's skill showings aren't numerous, but the few he has suggest that he's pretty formidable in h2h/melee combat...

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6959/silversurfer1219cn4.jpg
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they had to use tactic to even hit him...and they even say thats the only way to win

and the surfer stopped fighting after his disk broke

i kno the hulk can get stronger as he gets madder, but cant the surfer just use his cosmic powers to match him in strength?

nope, eventually The Surfer will hit a limit. Hulk will just keep getting stronger.

imo, the smartest thing Surfer can do is attempt to genetically alter Hulk so that he cannot access that infinite energy resource any more.

Surfer has too many powers and too much speed to be caught by Hulk unless he goes in for a H2H fight, but Surfer doesn't have power sufficient to keep going in a H2H match with Hulk for very long.

Originally posted by janus77
nope, eventually The Surfer will hit a limit. Hulk will just keep getting stronger.

imo, the smartest thing Surfer can do is attempt to genetically alter Hulk so that he cannot access that infinite energy resource any more.

Surfer has too many powers and too much speed to be caught by Hulk unless he goes in for a H2H fight, but Surfer doesn't have power sufficient to keep going in a H2H match with Hulk for very long.

when has surfer shown a limit? and if he does i doubt they would even make it to that point

and by what is shown in the comic hulk doesnt have a chance in h2h...hulk needed distraction to get the better of him

they even say "give him another pass and we're dead"

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/3922/incrediblehulk95013aq6.jpg

Originally posted by bbrem123
when has surfer shown a limit? and if he does i doubt they would even make it to that point

and by what is shown in the comic hulk doesnt have a chance in h2h...hulk needed distraction to get the better of him

they even say "give him another pass and we're dead"

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/3922/incrediblehulk95013aq6.jpg

Surfer will obviously only be able to amp his strength based on his PC. Since evn he has a limit to the amount of the power he can harness then he definitley has a limit 4 his strength amping, though it maybe ridiculously high.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Surfer will obviously only be able to amp his strength based on his PC. Since evn he has a limit to the amount of the power he can harness then he definitley has a limit 4 his strength amping, though it maybe ridiculously high.

yea exactly...i just cant see him making it that far even in h2h...cuz if the surfer wanted to he could amp his strength to max and take the hulk out far before the hulk could even get close to matching the surfers strength

Originally posted by bbrem123
when has surfer shown a limit? and if he does i doubt they would even make it to that point

and by what is shown in the comic hulk doesnt have a chance in h2h...hulk needed distraction to get the better of him

they even say "give him another pass and we're dead"

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/3922/incrediblehulk95013aq6.jpg


that quote is by one of the warbound, not Hulk.
you should also recall that Hulk's healing and durability (as well as his strength) were heavily retarded by Sakaar's environs. just as Surfer was cut off from the Power Cosmic.

Surfer's got limits in terms of how much energy he can absorb, how much he can output etc... that's why he's Galactus' herald and not the otherway around.

Hulk has no limits whatsoever and has on-panel proof of infinite strength. we don't need to really drag this out much.

as an example of Surfer meeting his match in strength, I'd say the fight with Murungu (sp?) should suffice.

Originally posted by bbrem123
yea exactly...i just cant see him making it that far even in h2h...cuz if the surfer wanted to he could amp his strength to max and take the hulk out far before the hulk could even get close to matching the surfers strength

ain't happening imo.
Hulk doesn't require time to amp himself, he just needs to be sufficiently stressed by the situation. Onslaught's punches didn't KO Hulk, Surfer's best isn't either.

Surfer cannot win against Hulk, in a purely physical battle. no one can. it's just Hulk's thing.

Originally posted by janus77

in a purely physical battle. no one can. it's just Hulk's thing.


thats extremly debatable
i dont see him punching out galactus ever

im not sure about that either cuz they even said they were dead if they didnt trick him

and didnt he only break onslaught armor and get koed right after that...and onslaught was fine

Originally posted by jalek moye
thats extremly debatable
i dont see him punching out galactus ever

I hope that never happens, I'm no longer too sure about it (RedHulk/Watcher 😖).

by "no one", I meant characters below Celestial levels (although there's no reason to suppose Marvel will respect celestial hierarchy 😐).

someone like Galactus is supposed to have infinite energies too. I assume that it's at a greater scale than Hulk.

Originally posted by bbrem123
and didnt he only break onslaught armor and get koed right after that...and onslaught was fine

yup,people seem to forget that.

Originally posted by bbrem123
and didnt he only break onslaught armor and get koed right after that...and onslaught was fine

Onslaught rationalised it after the fact, but then it just proves that Onslaught himself did not possess the strength to escape his armour. that only Hulk could smash it for him.

anyway, that's just one example, a far more straight-forward one would be either Samson's or Leader's scientific tests on Hulk, both of whom confirmed that he had infinite strength 🙂.

going back to the Sakaar battle thing, I repeat, it was the warbound who said it, it was shown quite often, that they underestimated Hulk. they knew nothing of what he could do. it took till long after Hulk and the warbound had 'bonded' for them to begin to realise what he was capable of.

Originally posted by janus77
Onslaught rationalised it after the fact, but then it just proves that Onslaught himself did not possess the strength to escape his armour. that only Hulk could smash it for him.

anyway, that's just one example, a far more straight-forward one would be either Samson's or Leader's scientific tests on Hulk, both of whom confirmed that he had infinite strength 🙂.

going back to the Sakaar battle thing, I repeat, it was the warbound who said it, it was shown quite often, that they underestimated Hulk. they knew nothing of what he could do. it took till long after Hulk and the warbound had 'bonded' for them to begin to realise what he was capable of.

ahh ic...but its not like he was arguing against the tactic as if he didnt need it to defeat the surfer...cuz he probably know he didnt stand mcuh of a chance

he was focussed on the battle, more annoyed with Surfer (his friend) fighting against him.

it was a pretty crappy scene, imo... Hulk should have been intelligent enough to see that the disc that was causing him to toe the line, was causing Surfer a greater deal of trouble (forcing obedience from Surfer, rather than just preventing him from escaping).