Silver surfer vs Magneto, Classic juggernaut and xavier

Originally posted by Ambient
The team losses fighting as individual but as a amalgamated character, i think they would win a majority against Surfer, no BFR of course..

they literally have zero chance of doing anything. Surfer would actively have to be willing them to hurt him, more than that, he would have to be sabotaging himself by some means, in order for them to get anywhere against him.

Couldn't Surfer just remove Magneto and Xavier's x-gene at the onset of battle? He does have dna manipulation abilities.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Couldn't Surfer just remove Magneto and Xavier's x-gene at the onset of battle? He does have dna manipulation abilities.

Any way..

"You X-characters have been naughty, Surfer stomp!"

Originally posted by illadelph12
Couldn't Surfer just remove Magneto and Xavier's x-gene at the onset of battle? He does have dna manipulation abilities.

Originally posted by janus77
even as an amalgam, they'd be excruciatingly slow, very limited in scope (Magneto can just about control all the Earth's magnetism, Surfer can evolve a planet billions of years... quite some disparity in scale there), barely negligible in terms of physical thread potential (Juggernaut at his best wouldn't even phase the Surfer) ...

they literally have zero chance of doing anything. Surfer would actively have to be willing them to hurt him, more than that, he would have to be sabotaging himself by some means, in order for them to get anywhere against him.

Surfer's overall abilities is dependant on PC (incl. durability, speed). Basically just a waiting game till Norrin runs out and slows down enough for the amalgamated team to handle.. Its def. going to be an all out drawn battle which is also dependant in the size of the battle field..

Originally posted by Ambient
As an amalgamated, there is just no way Surfer could harm them physically due to Jugg's durability also Mags EM manipulation and if he change strat. and takes mental persuasion; Xavier's mind would rendered that attack useless...

Surfer's overall abilities is dependant on PC (incl. durability, speed). Basically just a waiting game till Norrin runs out and slows down enough for the amalgamated team to handle.. Its def. going to be an all out drawn battle which is also dependant in the size of the battle field..

Mags EM manipulation is consdierably lower than the surfers. Also SS controls enrgy froms not in the EM spectrum. Waiting for norrin to run out would not really be a good strategy because he could easily replenish himself if need be by absorbing their bodily enrgies. With his DNA manip he could probably mess with their x gene. He could also make parts of their body inanimate and make them unable to move.( Doom with surfers powers did it to thing). Personally i think they would do better as a team because of the fact that SS would have to concentrate on multiple opponents.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Mags EM manipulation is consdierably lower than the surfers. Also SS controls enrgy froms not in the EM spectrum. Waiting for norrin to run out would not really be a good strategy because he could easily replenish himself if need be by absorbing their bodily enrgies. With his DNA manip he could probably mess with their x gene. He could also make parts of their body inanimate and make them unable to move.( Doom with surfers powers did it to thing). Personally i think they would do better as a team because of the fact that SS would have to concentrate on multiple opponents.

Yup. I still say Xavier isnt really a problem since his mental powers wont do much if anything, and easy to kill.

Has Surfer ever displayed being capable of telepathically fighting someone and using other powers at the same time?

Originally posted by llagrok
Has Surfer ever displayed being capable of telepathically fighting someone and using other powers at the same time?

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Mags EM manipulation is consdierably lower than the surfers. Also SS controls enrgy froms not in the EM spectrum. Waiting for norrin to run out would not really be a good strategy because he could easily replenish himself if need be by absorbing their bodily enrgies. With his DNA manip he could probably mess with their x gene. He could also make parts of their body inanimate and make them unable to move.( Doom with surfers powers did it to thing). Personally i think they would do better as a team because of the fact that SS would have to concentrate on multiple opponents.

Any manipulation done to the amalgam body, i think would be nulled against Jugg's mystical forcefield; this would incl. absorbing energies, missing w/ their x-genes to matter manipulating said body parts.

The teams as individuals would not be better due to durability issues and mystic energies that Surfer have difficulty manipulating which relies in Jugg..

Originally posted by DeathKap
Yup. I still say Xavier isnt really a problem since his mental powers wont do much if anything, and easy to kill.

Originally posted by llagrok
Has Surfer ever displayed being capable of telepathically fighting someone and using other powers at the same time?

Originally posted by Ambient
Yes his done so.. More like using CA or tp locating someone while fighting a horde of enemies..

I think that's different.

Xavier could pull an Emma Frost on Surfer.

Originally posted by llagrok
I think that's different.

Xavier could pull an Emma Frost on Surfer.

Originally posted by Ambient
Yes im quite aware of that but Mags abilities like say forcefield would be of great defense to Surfer's energy assaults or the ability to open miniature worm holes to escape against temporary bfr like say black holes..

Any manipulation done to the amalgam body, i think would be nulled against Jugg's mystical forcefield; this would incl. absorbing energies, missing w/ their x-genes to matter manipulating said body parts.

The teams as individuals would not be better due to durability issues and mystic energies that Surfer have difficulty manipulating which relies in Jugg..

I get ur point but IMO an amalgamated charcter would fare worse speedwise. This is because the attacks are coming from only one character and hence surfer would find it less hard to blitz only one person than he would three. However the only way that SS would be able to beat the amalgam IMO would be BFR or entrapment due to jugs invulnerability.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
I get ur point but IMO an amalgamated charcter would fare worse speedwise. This is because the attacks are coming from only one character and hence surfer would find it less hard to blitz only one person than he would three. However the only way that SS would be able to beat the amalgam IMO would be BFR or entrapment due to jugs invulnerability.

Originally posted by Ambient

Yes his done so.. More like using CA or tp locating someone while fighting a horde of enemies..

Originally posted by DeathKap
But it would not be hard to kill xavier. So as soon as they battle he could just kill him like a fly and he cant do anything. thats my point

Originally posted by DeathKap
But it would not be hard to kill xavier. So as soon as they battle he could just kill him like a fly and he cant do anything. thats my point

Originally posted by ultimatethor
I get ur point but IMO an amalgamated charcter would fare worse speedwise. This is because the attacks are coming from only one character and hence surfer would find it less hard to blitz only one person than he would three. However the only way that SS would be able to beat the amalgam IMO would be BFR or entrapment due to jugs invulnerability.

Originally posted by DeathKap
But it would not be hard to kill xavier. So as soon as they battle he could just kill him like a fly and he cant do anything. thats my point

too late cant type and think properly.. lol

Originally posted by DeathKap
um i may sound stupid but does exavier have Cerebro or Cerebra or is just on his own power

Originally posted by carnage52
you do by not being able to spell xavier