Wolverine vs Venom

Started by Never20 pages
Originally posted by Raoul
i never said it would make a difference. i just don't read thunderbolts, and seeing as anyone debating for venom would need to know about him, i wanted to know if he'd recovered...

I wasn't implying that you were. I was simply asking for clarification. Someone earlier might have said he used his tongue as a weapon or something.

Stranger things have happened. According to one of KMC's old mods, Venom in his first incarnation could lift 50 tons...

Originally posted by Never
No need to read the rules.
Alright, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt... meh, reported for trolling.

Originally posted by Never
I wasn't implying that you were. I was simply asking for clarification. Someone earlier might have said he used his tongue as a weapon or something.

Stranger things have happened. According to one of KMC's old mods, Venom in his first incarnation could lift 50 tons...

but i didn't, i asked a simple question, which you felt the need to react to the way you did with your 'one-upmanship'

Originally posted by Raoul
but i didn't, i asked a simple question, which you felt the need to react to the way you did with your 'one-upmanship'

Yes, I felt the need to react with *humor* to what I considered a *humorous* response by you.

As if I was serious about Venom's webbing stopping someone from using the bathroom. Gotta be kidding me.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Alright, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt... meh, reported for trolling.

Cool! Reported for bashing.

So since the venom side keeps using things that are not within the confines of the personality and non-canon showings... Wolverine.

People keep saying Wolverine's "vengeance is faster than they eye can follow."

But it's not.

I vote Venom.

Originally posted by Never
People keep saying Wolverine's "vengeance is faster than they eye can follow."

But it's not.

Originally posted by Badabing
[b]Offering an opinion or asking questions isn't trolling unless it disrupts the thread or is a blatant disregard of scans and panel feats. [/B]
Originally posted by Raoul
but i didn't, i asked a simple question, which you felt the need to react to the way you did with your 'one-upmanship'

Im guessing his tongue grew back by now because he did fight wolverine in one arc and got his tongue cut off and a couple of comics later it grew back. I think that venom has some sort of regenerating ability.

Originally posted by Rewmac
If it's Brock versus current Wolverine, Venom might pull this off. Wolverine isn't super powerful anymore, his healing powers are thankfully lowered to more realistic state. [/QUOTE
No it wasn't.

[QUOTE=10803854]Originally posted by Rewmac
He might be cutting the symbiotes, but Eddie can just over symbiote him putting symbiote all around him and yeah choking works. Wolverine does not win the reflex and speed part, and those claws aren't really powerful enough to put down Venom for good.

symbiote "all around him" already failed to work.
Venom doesn't win the reflex/speed department either.
And yes claws are good enough to put Venom down if they tag him in the head, neck, face, heart, aorta. etc.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Wow Jin, Im used to you twisting stories in blind Wolverine support, but usually you keep the examples contained to obscure Wolverine and X-men issues from the mid 1980s. Swordsman did NOT mess up Venom by stabbing him. In fact Venom had 3/4 of the blade sticking in his gut and he was mocking Swordsman. Its when Swordsman used his power and basically blew Gargan up that it had any effect. Can Wolverine's claws do that?
"Well actually in the special PizzaHut X-Men promotion limited comic run back in 1993, Wolverine....."
What have I twisted?
I didn't state that Swordsman beat Venom as that would have been inclusive of the electro bolt. What I DID state was that Swordsmen gave Venom problems. And that's exactly what happened. In spite of Venom supposedly being a great deal faster and too much for Logan to handle, Swordsman was using his blade to keep Venom at bay, cutting off his fingers and stabbing him in the torso. Swordsman's stab only got the tip of the blade into Gargon because Gargon had already raged the suit into the size of a house. EVEN THEN Gargon let out a RHAAAAA when he got stabbed with an OWWWW afterwards. And the bolt didn't really effect Gargon to the point of a put down, Swordsman's subsequent jamming of his sword all the way through Gargon however DID.

So if Venom is so fearsome why on earth did a third rate fighter like Swordsman take him out? Why was he able to pace Venom in battle? Swordsmen's been easily handled by Cap and Flag Jack like a chump, Wolverine would beat him mind controlled, after fighting an army of hydra agents, while missing a piece of his soul without breaking a sweat.. Oh wait.

Originally posted by Placidity
Haha, all this arguing over which version... Safe to assume Wolvy fans are afraid that Brock would win? Otherwise, it shouldn't matter which version right?

Dunno if you've notice but I've argued against both versions. Wolverine has a 3/3 history of doing well against Eddie.

Originally posted by Never
Yes he is. Wolverine more often than not just wades into battle because he thinks he's the best "at what he does."

...and this is what happens a lot. Hey Wolvie! You're not half the man you think you are! Hulk SMASH!

Trolling? That's called one-upping Raoul with his tongue remark.

That's what happens a lot?
What?
He gets mistaken for his ultimate version counterpart in a fight that was never shwon on panel and gets ripped in half?

Wiat no that can't be it, 616's NEVER been ripped in half.

The fact is that Wolverine outfights multitudes of skilled fighters all over MU earth, and artistic representations mean nothing anymore since X's soldiers stated that Wolverie fights with the works in a panel he looked like he was wading as you so put it.

Originally posted by Never
Oh yes he does.

How many Uncanny X-Men, New X-Men, X-Men, Wolverine series comics do you have? You're saying he displays amazing skills in most of his fights.

He was a hack and slasher vs Nimrod, Sabretooth in Uncanny 212 and 213 (http://image.comicvine.com:8000/vol/4000/3092/3092-27691-1-uncanny-x-men-the_150.jpg), Spiderman vs Wolverine, Secret Wars, vs Marrow, vs Silver Samurai, X-Men #5 vs Omega Red (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image😘m005.png ), X-Men #18 vs Omega Red (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image😘men18omegared.jpg ), in Hulk #181, in Hulk #340, vs Elektra...could name a whole lot more.

Clarify what "amazing skill" means to you, please.

If I'm a troll, why feed me? 🙂

Secret Wars is a load of PIS against the entire team of X-Men and lost all it's validity the next 7 times Spiderman confronted Wolverine.
Wolverine used his agility and skill to escape from Sabretooth in 212 so I don't know what the hell you're talking about there.
In 213 they both went into bloodlust.
He pwned Marrow the only two times they've fought so no win points there.
He's beaten Silver Samurai both times they've fought no points there.
He fought Omega Red for 18 hours that's not evidence of anything dictating he lacks skill considering he was avoiding coils fast enough to block bullets after being fired.
Hulk 181? He fought Hulk and the Wendigo without taking a single hit until tied up or distracted.
Elektra's a telepathic ninja with the same skill level and speed feats faster than Spiderman. 😐

Every example you pulled there was a terrible one= EPIC FAIL.

Originally posted by jinzin

And yes claws are good enough to put Venom down if they tag him in the head, neck, face, heart, aorta. etc.
you have any evidence of this (ie a knife slash or something similar taking down venom)?

Originally posted by Starscream M
you have any evidence of this (ie a knife slash or something similar taking down venom)?
You mean aside from when it's worked for Logan? 😕

Brock is to versatile, hes faster and stronger. Brock 8/10

Don't see how Wolverine could take down Venom. Venom on the other hand is faster, stronger, has more Range, and more durable.

Strength is a virtual non factor with Logan.
Brock CAN be too versatile but he plays to his CIS too much. He's not faster. He has NO speed feats that outstrip Logans.

Originally posted by Never
I wasn't implying that you were. I was simply asking for clarification. Someone earlier might have said he used his tongue as a weapon or something.

Stranger things have happened. According to one of KMC's old mods, Venom in his first incarnation could lift 50 tons...

I dont' know why, but I find your user name offensive to one of the great Legends of all time.