Originally posted by jinzin
Strength is a virtual non factor with Logan.
Brock CAN be too versatile but he plays to his CIS too much. He's not faster. He has NO speed feats that outstrip Logans.
Why does strength mean nothing with logan? He can get a good smack like anyone else. Strength also allows someone to pull a building on top of your head. And hurl trucks and cars as weaons.
Originally posted by Juk3nNo, Spiderman is SLIGHTLY faster than Wolverine, but he's not faster to the degree that would matter in a fight.
Im just curious, would you also say Logan is faster than Spider-man?
The difference between Spiderman and Venom is that Spiderman has loads of speed feats to back himself up, Venom has like.. 3, maybe 4. The best I can even think of which is a reference to him having comparible speed to Spiderman. The problem? He doesn't utilize his speed in 99% of his comic book fights.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Why does strength mean nothing with logan? He can get a good smack like anyone else. Strength also allows someone to pull a building on top of your head. And hurl trucks and cars as weaons.
and 2) Because Venom as Eddie Brock had a strength class of 30.. maybe, that's not enough to beat Logan with strength.
Likewise your appeal to Venom's durability is worthless. Is Venom too durable to be cut and sliced by Logan's claws? No? okay.
Is Wolverine's main offensive weapons composed of something other than his claws? Is he going to try and kick and punch Venom into submission? No? Okay.
Then why bring it up?
Originally posted by jinzin
No, Spiderman is SLIGHTLY faster than Wolverine, but he's not faster to the degree that would matter in a fight.
Just slightly? meh, my bad, i always just assumed it was a variable class difference in speed between Pete and Logan. My bad i guess.. who would have thought a guy with an avarage weight for male athlete whose actual muscles can take multi tons of pressure each WOULDNT be able to move significantly faster than an Athlete who is bogged down by a thick ass 300lb skeleton ON-TOP of his own body weight, whose limbs in there own right could not take multi tons of pressure each.
comics eh?.. i know i love them.
Originally posted by Juk3nActually Wolverine has feats where his limbs are taking multi tons of pressure. But yeah genrally Spiderman isn't much faster than the average street level, it's part of the reason Spiderman thought Wolverine was faster than him when they had their first real fight.
Just slightly? meh, my bad, i always just assumed it was a variable class difference in speed between Pete and Logan. My bad i guess.. who would have thought a guy with an avarage weight for male athlete whose actual muscles can take multi tons of pressure each would be able to move significantly faster than an Athlete who is bogged down by a thick ass 300lb skeleton ON-TOP of his own body weight, whose limbs in there own right could not take multi tons of pressure each.comics eh?.. i know i love them.
Originally posted by Juk3noh, no, I saw the part of my quote you quoted, but there wasn't a response under it just my quote, when I posted "you're point?" the page then had what you wrote so I had to edit my response. lol.
No point really, ive just been enlightened to a fact i didnt know, thanks to you, thats all 🙂
Originally posted by jinzin
Actually Wolverine has feats where his limbs are taking multi tons of pressure. But yeah genrally Spiderman isn't much faster than the average street level, it's part of the reason Spiderman thought Wolverine was faster than him when they had their first real fight.
aye but thats the adamantium re-enforcing his structure allowing for a greater load, i was only really talking about his actual muscle strength. My bad i phrased it wrong.
Originally posted by Juk3nDuring he Pheonix saga: Wolverine was being pressed by tons of weight. His muscles didn't buckle before the floor did and he had so much weight baring down on him he dropped 5 stories. I don't see how his skeleton could have helped him since he was crouched over.
aye but thats the adamantium re-enforcing his structure allowing for a greater load, i was only really talking about his actual muscle strength. My bad i phrased it wrong.
I also find that argument to be a bit weak when one of Wolverine's best strength feats came from hi without the skeleton.
Originally posted by jinzin
During he Pheonix saga: Wolverine was being pressed by tons of weight. His muscles didn't buckle before the floor did and he had so much weight baring down on him he dropped 5 stories. I don't see how his skeleton could have helped him since he was crouched over.I also find that argument to be a bit weak when one of Wolverine's best strength feats came from hi without the skeleton.
Ah my bad again, i read somewhere that his adamantium skeleton allowed him to bare a greater load.
Live and learn i guess, thanx for the info
Originally posted by Juk3nIt's never been stated in a marvel book, it's a forum myth.
Ah my bad again, i read somewhere that his adamantium skeleton allowed him to bare a greater load.Live and learn i guess, thanx for the info