who can take out trion juggernaut

Originally posted by carver9
Can spectre survive a punch from him, we all know that trion can survive almost any assault that spectre can send at him. Look at this point, spectre face has been busted up by black adam and he fell to the ground from a bat kick, imagine what a dimensional destroying punch would do to him.

Did you even bother to READ what I said?
God, can't you understand basic English?

I said Spectre FULLY BACKED UP by The Presence can beat TJ.

Spectre (fully powered by The Presence) = LT

Originally posted by occultdestroyer

Spectre (fully powered by The Presence) = LT

According to who?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
According to who?

According to DC and Marvel

I don't doubt DC would say that. But, Marvel?

Originally posted by carver9
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/trion_juggs1.jpg

He was basically about to destroy the entire universe along with other dimensions if he wasnt stopped. Thats>>>any solar system destroying feats.

HE didnt destroy ANY dimension. All he did was punch through one dimesnion into another. As i said all he did was shatter dimensional barriers. This is impressivebut evn the hulk hasndone this. Actually DESTROYING three solar systems is far more impressive. They are not evn comparable. Flash and surfer have both destroyed dimensional barriers with their speed as well. This howver does not mean that it is greater than galactus destroying 3 solar systems or evn close. ALL he did was punch through the barrier seperating one dimension from another. Actually destroying the dimension is ENTIRELY different. Also the size of a dimension varies. The dimensions of beings like mephisto are not as big as solar sytems.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
HE didnt destroy [B]ANY dimension. All he did was punch through one dimesnion into another. As i said all he did was shatter dimensional barriers. This is impressivebut evn the hulk hasndone this. Actually DESTROYING three solar systems is far more impressive. They are not evn comparable. Flash and surfer have both destroyed dimensional barriers with their speed as well. This howver does not mean that it is greater than galactus destroying 3 solar systems or evn close. ALL he did was punch through the barrier seperating one dimension from another. Actually destroying the dimension is ENTIRELY different. Also the size of a dimension varies. The dimensions of beings like mephisto are not as big as solar sytems. [/B]

you do know that with this whole paragraph you wrote you really didnt say much.well you said one thing but you kept repeating yourself.we get it,he didnt destroy a dimension.everyone knows that.we all know he punched through it.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
HE didnt destroy [B]ANY dimension. All he did was punch through one dimesnion into another. As i said all he did was shatter dimensional barriers. This is impressivebut evn the hulk hasndone this. Actually DESTROYING three solar systems is far more impressive. They are not evn comparable. Flash and surfer have both destroyed dimensional barriers with their speed as well. This howver does not mean that it is greater than galactus destroying 3 solar systems or evn close. ALL he did was punch through the barrier seperating one dimension from another. Actually destroying the dimension is ENTIRELY different. Also the size of a dimension varies. The dimensions of beings like mephisto are not as big as solar sytems. [/B]

Again, show me a scan of hulk punching through dimensions and did he take the time to destroy everything, no, he was punching away but on panel it stated that he had the ability to destroy everything which lead to the professor x aiding them to stop him.

Im not using the fact that he went through dimension, I want you to understand the amount of strength it takes to pull off a feat like that and the thing about it was that his power was still increasing by the second.

Now I want you to prove to me that galactus can take a dimensional destroying punch because like I said before galactus got a hole punched through him by thunderbird (I think I said his name right) and his strength is nothing compared to trion.

Trion wasn't destroying dimensions. He was shattering the walls that seperate them. Each wall he shattered required him getting stronger and stronger. He was out to kill the abstracts of a certain dimension. They were scared poopless when they learned this.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
They were scared poopless when they learned this.

😆

The Question is:
Is Classic Jugg's durability infinite?
Because of it is then Trion is the same.

In other words,
is there any physical force in comic history (no magic) that was strong enough to penetrate Jugg's skin? If not, then how can we say that it can happen? If yes, then please state how and when. No PIS!

With that said, I believe Trion's durability can be overcame with magical force. So Galactus isn't winning here, nor is the Celestials.

Odin can win this, Dr. Strange, and others. But wait. Juggs can instantly heal from anything right? So even if someone or something was to disintegrate him (worst case scenerio) then he would just come right back. So how is Trion losing here without the benefit of someone taking away his powers or bfring him? And who cares if he can punch thru dimensions (this isn't even a display of strength). He's not hitting anyone who is super fast with reflexes.

Lastly punching thru dimensions is the same as making your hand go thru portals. It is interdimesional travel that doesn't require strength but magical or scientific power. So that Trion punching thru dimensions thing is overrated and misunderstood.

Classic Juggernaut does NOT have infinite durability. I liken it to Skyfather level.

Scathan
Tiamut
Arishem
Exitar

destroy Trion Juggernaut

Originally posted by guy222
Scathan
Tiamut
Arishem
Exitar

destroy Trion Juggernaut

Easy there champ. You picked ones that are TOO powerful. Any Celestial could take Trion Juggernaut.

BTW did you know Exitar>>>>than the entire 4th host?

Originally posted by h1a8
The Question is:
Is Classic Jugg's durability infinite?
Because of it is then Trion is the same.

In other words,
is there any physical force in comic history (no magic) that was strong enough to penetrate Jugg's skin? If not, then how can we say that it can happen? If yes, then please state how and when. No PIS!

With that said, I believe Trion's durability can be overcame with magical force. So Galactus isn't winning here, nor is the Celestials.

Odin can win this, Dr. Strange, and others. But wait. Juggs can instantly heal from anything right? So even if someone or something was to disintegrate him (worst case scenerio) then he would just come right back. So how is Trion losing here without the benefit of someone taking away his powers or bfring him? And who cares if he can punch thru dimensions (this isn't even a display of strength). He's not hitting anyone who is super fast with reflexes.

Lastly punching thru dimensions is the same as making your hand go thru portals. It is interdimesional travel that doesn't require strength but magical or scientific power. So that Trion punching thru dimensions thing is overrated and misunderstood.

I guess you never read the comic, it said that his strength was so immense that he was able to punch through dimension. There was no other way that he did it, he did it by pure physical force. Now imagine this, imagine him fighting a speedster then he decides to do a thunderclap, I wonder what a thunder clap would be fr0m a character that could PUNCH through dimensions.

Also, the answer to your question about juggernaut durability is that the only time he has been defeated has been mentally.

I was letting it be known the Celestials > Trion 😄

Galactus defeats Trion as well

Exitar>4th Host. Gotta disagree, friend

Exitar receives the code from Arishem. Happened twice. Granted he's the tallest and should be the most powerful one. We all know who's the baddest(Earth-616)...Tiamut

Defalco wrote that crap...FF #400

Originally posted by guy222
I was letting it be known the Celestials > Trion 😄

Galactus defeats Trion as well

Exitar>4th Host. Gotta disagree, friend

Exitar receives the code from Arishem. Happened twice. Granted he's the tallest and should be the most powerful one. We all know who's the baddest(Earth-616)...Tiamut

Defalco wrote that crap...FF #400

Much weaker beings have defeated galactus why not trion.😕

Thor stated Exitar>4th Host.

Originally posted by carver9
I guess you never read the comic, it said that his strength was so immense that he was able to punch through dimension. There was no other way that he did it, he did it by pure physical force. Now imagine this, imagine him fighting a speedster then he decides to do a thunderclap, I wonder what a thunder clap would be fr0m a character that could PUNCH through dimensions.

Also, the answer to your question about juggernaut durability is that the only time he has been defeated has been mentally.

Wasn't Juggernaut turned into a baby once on Mojo world?

As far as this topic goes, this incarnation of juggernaut is at Cyttorak level at most, depending on whether or not he was an optimum vessel for Cyttorak when the latteer possessed him. Anything at or above Cyttorak would definitely be able to beat juggernaut. Anything that BFRs him might beat him that way, although you would expect Cyttorak to be able to transport himself through space/time. Anything that can expunge Cyttorak from juggernaut would win as well.

Wasn't Juggernaut turned into a baby once on Mojo world?

He might was turned to a baby, never heard of that happening and Im not denying it since magic>>>>> anything in marvel or dc.

As far as this topic goes, this incarnation of juggernaut is at Cyttorak level at most, depending on whether or not he was an optimum vessel for Cyttorak when the latteer possessed him.

Thats the problem, he wasnt at cyttoraks level of power, not even close but he was still busting through dimensions. If he kept going like the way he was (since it was stated that he was getting more powerful by the second) then he might could have been at cyttoraks level of power.

Anything at or above Cyttorak would definitely be able to beat juggernaut.

Like I have said before, cyttorak has always been demonstrated as being galactus equal but when it comes to durability and strength I think that cytorrak has him by a large gap (since he is based off of true strength and invulnerability) but when it come to power I give the edge to galactus, even though cyttorak possess amazing powers himself.

Anything that BFRs him might beat him that way, although you would expect Cyttorak to be able to transport himself through space/time. Anything that can expunge Cyttorak from juggernaut would win as well.

and who is this that has this amazing power to go past trions durability. People have already had enough trouble even getting to juggernauts mind due to his magical helmet.

Originally posted by carver9
Much weaker beings have defeated galactus why not trion.😕

FF and others defeated a weakened Galactus

Gravity 'hurt' and 'fed' Big G

I'll let my Galactus buddies, Ut and Tenebrous speak on Big G

Galactus>Trion IMO