who can take out trion juggernaut

Started by Doctor-Alvis13 pages

Originally posted by Uatu76
Wait...didn't Galactus fight and hang with Cyttorak in his own dimension? Or was that Agammoto? If it was Cyttorak in he stalemated then how would Trion Juggs be able to beat him?

They didn't really fight. Galactus was flying his ship through Cyttorak's realm and it got hit with the crimson bands.

The result was like if someone snags a mattress under their car. I don't think he stopped.

Galactus is definetly>than Trion.

Anyone more powerful than the Trion should be able defeat Trion Juggernaut. The Trion’s plan was to have the X-Men destroy Juggernaut and their (The Trion) evil half, so that the Trion themselves would not have to commit any ‘evil’ acts.

Originally posted by carver9
He might was turned to a baby, never heard of that happening and Im not denying it since magic>>>>> anything in marvel or dc.

I'm not sure what happened there, or if it even happened that way. Hence the question.

Originally posted by carver9

Thats the problem, he wasnt at cyttoraks level of power, not even close but he was still busting through dimensions. If he kept going like the way he was (since it was stated that he was getting more powerful by the second) then he might could have been at cyttoraks level of power.

He was possessed by Cytorrak. Whether that means he was equal to or lower than Cytorrak is pure speculation.

Originally posted by carver9

Like I have said before, cyttorak has always been demonstrated as being galactus equal but when it comes to durability and strength I think that cytorrak has him by a large gap (since he is based off of true strength and invulnerability) but when it come to power I give the edge to galactus, even though cyttorak possess amazing powers himself.

Based on punching through dimensions and a panel line? I'm not saying that Cyttorak is a wimp in terms of strength and durability, but that galactus has never been shown to be one who relies on physical strength. That would be saying that Doom is smarter than Morg, which is probably true, but doesn't raise any shared point of contention.

Originally posted by carver9

and who is this that has this amazing power to go past trions durability. People have already had enough trouble even getting to juggernauts mind due to his magical helmet.

Hence all the "ifs" and "coulds". A LOT of what that juggernaut could do is speculation at best. Hence, it can't be so far-fetched that those methods might work on him. As for who could do something like that, that would be up to speculation as well -- I simply named a few abilities that could get it done.

Originally posted by Ouallada
He was possessed by Cytorrak. Whether that means he was equal to or lower than Cytorrak is pure speculation.

I'm pretty sure he was possessed by the evil half of The Trion, not Cytorrak.

Originally posted by Rorschach
I'm pretty sure he was possessed by the evil half of The Trion, not Cytorrak.

Indeed. The power he displayed was all Cyttorak though.

Originally posted by Rorschach
I'm pretty sure he was possessed by the evil half of The Trion, not Cytorrak.

Yeah by that sphere of evil. I meant it from a "power" point of view though.

Trion Juggernaut is powerful no doubt but I think anyone Sky father level around there should be able to beat him. He punched a whole through reality, but so did hulk. He was getting stronger by the second though.

Originally posted by Rorschach
Anyone more powerful than the Trion should be able defeat Trion Juggernaut. The Trion’s plan was to have the X-Men destroy Juggernaut and their (The Trion) evil half, so that the Trion themselves would not have to commit any ‘evil’ acts.

Whoa, really? They really didn't think that one through then.

To elaborate a little, the Trion were these three beings, one looking like Moondragon with a little dry ice around her face, one looking like Tenebrous, and the last looking like a Scream rejct who eradicated evil from their realm and cast it out in the form of a sphere. That was what controlled Juggernaut, even though Cyttorak empowered him seemingly fully. The Trion looked upon men as inherently flawed from a moral perspective in any case, and so used them as a defense against their realm's evil. Been a long time since I read the issues though.

It was the evil of the Trion itself. Many millenia ago they purged evil from themselves and imprisoned it within the sphere. Unbeknowst to them the evil was a sentient being.

Originally posted by RageOfTheGods
Trion Juggernaut is powerful no doubt but I think anyone Sky father level around there should be able to beat him. He punched a whole through reality, but so did hulk. He was getting stronger by the second though.

and what skyfather is this that youre talking about.

Originally posted by carver9
and what skyfather is this that youre talking about.

Vishnu?

I'm pretty sure any of these guys can beat this retard

Yahweh (Presence and GEB)
LT (Galactus, Eternity and Death)
Michael and Lucifer
Phantom Stranger
Spectre
Mr. Mxy
Beyonder
Vishanti
Scathan The Approver
Protege
Merlin
Abraxas
Entropy

...and Batgod with his Batkick

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
I'm pretty sure any of these guys can beat this retard

Yahweh (Presence and GEB)
LT (Galactus, Eternity and Death)
Michael and Lucifer
Phantom Stranger
Spectre
Mr. Mxy
Beyonder
Vishanti
Scathan The Approver
Protege
Merlin
Abraxas
Entropy

...and Batgod with his Batkick

i could have swore i said no obvious picks like LT,oaa,yahweh etc. retard. ok how about this,from marvel anyone from cyttoraks level of power on down & from dc anyone from spectres power level on down.IG,WoL etc. is ok. no thoti

Originally posted by carver9
and what skyfather is this that youre talking about.

A powerful skyfather should be able to beat him shouldnt he, I know trion was getting stronger and basically punched through reality but so DID hulk, the reality punches are in my opinion over rated, its one thing to punch to another dimension it is entirely whole different matter to destroy one, flash can vibrate to other dimensions and such, wat flash uses with speed juggs used with strenght. A sky father like say I dk rune thor should be able to beat trion.

Classic Juggernaut has skyfather level durability as is. Trion would be much greater.

Only a being capable of reality manip. should be able to defeat Trion. Using power on him would and should not work, if he is being written properly.

but we really dont know if reality manip. or sonics & the like would work on this juggs

... Juggernaut got beat senseless physically by Onslaught.
Physical strength can destroy everyone, just like magic/power cosmic etc can... it's all a question of quantity.