Originally posted by Starscream M
by then, Mac will have long been KOed by Superman...or do you think Superman is just sitting there letting Mac get a fix on his brain waves?
Yes, because he has others to contend with and it doesn't take Mac long to lock on a frequency. If they distract Superman enough, this is a viable tactic.
Originally posted by -K-M-dood, superman could contend with the grounddwellers after he deals with the fliers. Puck, Sasquatch, and Northstar might as well not have been put in this battle as they don't make a lick of difference to the outcome.
Yes, because he has others to contend with and it doesn't take Mac long to lock on a frequency. If they distract Superman enough, this is a viable tactic.
Originally posted by Starscream M
dood, superman could contend with the grounddwellers after he deals with the fliers. Puck, Sasquatch, and Northstar might as well not have been put in this battle as they don't make a lick of difference to the outcome.
Yeah he will take everyone else out, but that still leaves Mac to get his frequency as he is doing that and if he comes close to Mac he could BFR him. Also Northstar thanks to the Children of the Vault can reach lightspeed now, and before his upgrade his blows even hurt the Hulk. Also if Sasquatch goes Tanaraq, forget about it. Without that yes he is screwed. Basically the rest of Alpha Flight would act as a diversion while Mac does his magic.
Originally posted by -K-M-ok, but you concede that if Superman took out Mac in the start, he wins this pretty handily?
Yeah he will take everyone else out, but that still leaves Mac to get his frequency as he is doing that and if he comes close to Mac he could BFR him. Also Northstar thanks to the Children of the Vault can reach lightspeed now, and before his upgrade his blows even hurt the Hulk. Also if Sasquatch goes Tanaraq, forget about it. Without that yes he is screwed. Basically the rest of Alpha Flight would act as a diversion while Mac does his magic.
Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, but you concede that if Superman took out Mac in the start, he wins this pretty handily?
Depends really on what Mac will do. Ideally one on one sans BFR yeah I would give Superman the nod if Mac doesn't pinpoint his frequency fast enough.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
oh it matters alright.
Indeed, if this is classic Guardian Superman would easily take it as no one would enough power to take him down.
BFR is pretty much their one hope. Superman is just too damn powerful. And if he has basic knowledge, he's not going to give Mac time to take him down.
Mac is fast, but he's not that fast. On the other hand, if Superman doesn't finish them off quickly, Mac can BFR him.
Basically, how serious is Superman fighting? If he's trying to win, he can take it, but he could lose a few based on BFR. If he's trying to kill, he can't lose.
*whistles* Impressive. He is fast, you're right. But he's not Superman fast.
Superman is faster than kryptonian computers when he's on his game.
If Superman doesn't go all out, or takes out the others first, Mac will get him.
And the time vortex thing isn't fair. That maneuver was almost suicidal for him.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
*whistles* Impressive. He is fast, you're right. But he's not Superman fast.Superman is faster than kryptonian computers when he's on his game.
If Superman doesn't go all out, or takes out the others first, Mac will get him.
And the time vortex thing isn't fair. That maneuver was almost suicidal for him.
He's not, unless he activates the fail-safe in his suit
Which is rare sadly
If Superman takes Mac out first, then the rest of AF is screwed.
Because he was seriously injuired, his suit was damaged and he was human when he did the feat. He got an upgrade right after the vortex making him stronger then ever and was built to take on Galactus because of it.
Originally posted by batdude123
...I'm curious as to what Guardian could do to stop Superman.
His blasts are pretty potent even one-shotting a weakened Galactus, but I don't think that would be key to beating Superman. If Mac locks on Superman's brain pattern he literally could shut it down like he has done to others. Mac's frequency adjusting is top notch he was the only one who could power Galactus' machines and the group had people like Quasar, Sersi, BOX in it.