Superman vs Guardian(Mac), Northstar, Sasquatch, Puck, & Vindicator

Originally posted by -K-M-
His blasts are pretty potent even one-shotting a weakened Galactus, but I don't think that would be key to beating Superman. If Mac locks on Superman's brain pattern he literally could shut it down like he has done to others. Mac's frequency adjusting is top notch he was the only one who could power Galactus' machines and the group had people like Quasar, Sersi, BOX in it.

What's to stop Superman from creating a counter-frequency himself, as he's been shown to do on quite a few occasions?

A more likely scenario than Guardian doing all that would be Superman KOing him with a right cross to the jaw.

Originally posted by batdude123
What's to stop Superman from creating a counter-frequency himself, as he's been shown to do on quite a few occasions?

A more likely scenario than Guardian doing all that would be Superman KOing him with a right cross to the jaw.

Mac can simply adjust to that, and if I were to wager Mac's frequency control is far more potent then Superman's as he has the frequency feats to back it up. Also it's a tad hard to counter a frequency with your brain shut off 😛

If he goes for Mac first, then yes.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Mac can simply adjust to that, and if I were to wager Mac's frequency control is far more potent then Superman's as he has the frequency feats to back it up. Also it's a tad hard to counter a frequency with your brain shut off 😛

Oh, so Mac has feats that are greater than Superman creating a counter frequency to an entire planet, and therefore, sending that planet to a different dimension?

Originally posted by -K-M-
If he goes for Mac first, then yes.

He wouldn't have to go for Mac first.

Originally posted by batdude123
Oh, so Mac has feats that are greater than Superman creating a counter frequency to an entire planet, and therefore, sending that planet to a different dimension?

He wouldn't have to go for Mac first.

Actually yeah, Mac caused an entire planet and an entire alien armada [which had thousands of ships roughly] from different dimensions to swap places with each other.

The longer Superman gives him time to pinpoint Superman's frequency the worse off for him. Mac has shut down Doom's shield with ease, no one has ever done that before.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually yeah, Mac caused an entire planet and an entire alien armada [which had thousands of ships roughly] from different dimensions to swap places with each other.

The longer Superman gives him time to pinpoint Superman's frequency the worse off for him. Mac has shut down Doom's shield with ease, no one has ever done that before.

Before I get ahead of myself, are you referring to this right here?

Originally posted by -K-M-

[B]Teleportation
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Sent by the Qwrln to gather Earth forces to fight off Galactus who has arrived on their planet forcing them to teleport their planet to a different dimension. As they were the ones responsible for turning Guardian into a cyborg, he must aid them and activates his computer mind and teleports Sersi, Windshear, Quasar, Hercules, Guardian (Heather), Vision, and Box v.4 all against their will instantly into another dimension

1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight99-19.jpg
2. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight99-21.jpg
3. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight99-22.jpg
4. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight99-23.jpg
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Originally posted by batdude123
Before I get ahead of myself, are you referring to this right here?

No, after Mac defeated Galactus he made a deal with him to power his machines to teleport the planet and the armada.

Originally posted by -K-M-
No, after Mac defeated Galactus he made a deal with him to power his machines to teleport the planet and the armada.

Okay? That's completely different then...

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay? That's completely different then...

Mac was the only one who can generate the flux they needed to activate the machine only he could acheive that. Not even BOX, Quasar, Sersi or the weakened Galactus could.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Mac was the only one who can generate the flux they needed to activate the machine only he could acheive that. Not even BOX, Quasar, Sersi or the weakened Galactus could.

Which is all fine and dandy, but it's not even close to what you were implying earlier. 😬

Superman sent a planet to another dimension with his own power, and not by using a machine in order to accomplish it.

Why is a weakened galactus so underrated on the forum. A weakened galactus stalemated ego, also defeated thanos and almost stalemated phoenix. If mac did take down a weakened galactus who is >>>>>>> superman then he shouldnt have a problem in this fight.

I did not know that he was that powerful.

Originally posted by batdude123
Which is all fine and dandy, but it's not even close to what you were implying earlier. 😬

Superman sent a planet to another dimension with his own power, and not by using a machine in order to accomplish it.

he only hurt the planet which lead to it leading itself to another dimension. 🙁

Not a good feat to use. 😕

Originally posted by carver9
he only hurt the planet which lead to it leading itself to another dimension. 🙁

Not a good feat to use. 😕

😐

Once again, you have absolutely no idea what the f*ck you're talking about. 😬

Originally posted by batdude123
😐

Once again, you have absolutely no idea what the f*ck you're talking about. 😬

Show me this scan. 😕

Originally posted by carver9
Show me this scan. 😕

So you admit you've never seen it, and were in fact, talking out of your ass in your previous post? 😬

Originally posted by batdude123
So you admit you've never seen it, and were in fact, talking out of your ass in your previous post? 😬

I guess I was talking out my ass if we're not talking about the same comic. Thats why I asked for a scan.

Originally posted by carver9
I guess I was talking out my ass if we're not talking about the same comic. Thats why I asked for a scan.

http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adventuresofsuperman617fi2.jpg

He created a counter-frequency to its vibrational pattern, thus exorcising it from our reality. No where was it mentioned that he "hurt" the planet, and made it scurry away. Plus, the idea of a planet being able to feel pain is completely asinine. 😬

I just realized you're thinking of All-Star Superman... 🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adventuresofsuperman617fi2.jpg

He created a counter-frequency to its vibrational pattern, thus exorcising it from our reality. No where was it mentioned that he "hurt" the planet, and made it scurry away. Plus, the idea of a planet being able to feel pain is completely asinine. 😬

amazing feat, very amazing.

I just realized you're thinking of All-Star Superman...

thats who I thought you were talking about.

Originally posted by batdude123
Which is all fine and dandy, but it's not even close to what you were implying earlier. 😬

Superman sent a planet to another dimension with his own power, and not by using a machine in order to accomplish it.

Earlier? I mentioned he powered Galactus machines a few times

Oh your talking about when SUperman saved the omniverse by vibrating, I thought you were talking about something else. Do you seriously believe he is going to do that in battle?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Earlier? I mentioned he powered Galactus machines a few times

Oh your talking about when SUperman saved the omniverse by vibrating, I thought you were talking about something else. Do you seriously believe he is going to do that in battle?

As for what Superman's bound to do in battle, if he's attacked via frequency, it's entirely possible for him to oppose it with the skill he demonstrated in that scan.