Originally posted by jinzinEven if Doom was in some suit that would allow for pheremones to penetrate, Dr. Doom was able to overcome Purple Man's pheremone powers. Spiderwoman's pheremone potency is several magnitudes below that and only serve to subtley seduce those who are afflicted. When has boneclaw Wolverine ever shredded through Onslaught's shields? The only instance I can conjure up is him slashing at Onslaught's energy form in a combined assault right before Onslaught blows up and that was extraordinarily circumstantial and hardly analagous. Go to Doom's respect thread and look at what his forcefield's have stood up to.
Didn't know Doom's suit was pheromone resistant. I figured Purple Man was something he prepped for or was at least aware of unlike Jessica.
Can't really say how Wolverine would be able to do against Doom's shields. As far as I'm aware there's no proof of anything one way or the other, Onslaught's sheilds were resistant to the same types of attacks Doom's have proven to be and he still shredded through that.Spiderman can be plenty distracting enough to make openings for the rest of the team, as for Doom not having his shields up 100% of the time.. There's nothing PIS about it, it falls under CIS, perhaps even some matter concerning Doom's armor not yet mentioned but he doesn't have them up 100% of the time when he fights.
Even if Doom's shields were down, he could simply turn them on in a fight. If he felt endangered at all, they'd be up instantly. Besides his armor has taken shots from Namor and Thing without any problem. He's also slapped away a Mjolnir toss with it. It's not as if he would need his forcefields against this group anyway.
Doom's armor alone was taking multiple shots from Sentry to no effect. He also took a massive cheapshot to the chin from Sentry and ended up f*cking him over... apparently, he can't stand against the armor tearing, but meh...
Anyway, he was completely shielding every attack from the MA (Wonderman, Ares, Wasp), and attacking at the same time, so really...
^ I was looking at scans of the Mighty Avengers fight again and I noticed something. At the beginning, the term "armor shield" is used and used quite often as applied to both Iron Man and Dr. Doom:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/MightyAvengers9-020.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/MightyAvengers9-021.jpg
But then in the climax, the term is now "security field" which is different:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/MightyAvengers011TheBastard-Meganpg.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/MightyAvengers011TheBastard-Mega-3.jpg
Doesn't that seem odd? Now this is all speculation... but is it possible that it was the castle's "security fields" that were breached and his personal "armor shields" were still down? Which would help explain why Sentry so easily ripped his armor apart. I don't have the comic in my apartment. But can anyone look through their issues and check on the term inconsistency? Like, when the castle is first invaded... is there a "security field" breach? Did Doom in his 30 minutes ever actually recharge his armor upon returning from the past before Sentry attacked him?
All in all, the plain presentation of the scans suggest that Sentry simply breached his personal shields. And I have no problem believing that Sentry has that kind of power. Indeed, he's demonstrated power on that level before. And while tough to see... his eyes almost look Voided-out like when he fought Ultron. But the odd switch in terms is bothering me. Any help or input is appreciated.
I hadn't seen that fight, that's why I was asking if he'd gone through any developments in recent. Seeing him take Sentry shots while pulsating with magic like a DBZ Dr. Strange does quite a ****in bit to persuade my opinion on the matter. Now I see why Doom's been getting so much credit here. I concede then that he's too much for team two.
Originally posted by jinzinThe only thing he's recently learned, is how to create an army using magic...
I hadn't seen that fight, that's why I was asking if he'd gone through any developments in recent. Seeing him take Sentry shots while pulsating with magic like a DBZ Dr. Strange does quite a ****in bit to persuade my opinion on the matter. Now I see why Doom's been getting so much credit here. I concede then that he's too much for team two.
Otherwise, his magic was only being expanded on in that arc. Back in the old days, he's punked magicians in packs when he was a self admitted n00b, and even almost had Strange. Then he was trained by Strange for quite a while, and he's also had other sorcerers teach him everything they know. So ya, he's pretty proficient in magic.
You should visit the respect thread to see some other crazy shit he's done. 😉
Originally posted by jinzinHe's got some magic feats here and there, but to be honest, most writers only have him using his tech. Which is good, but I wish they would combine the two some time.
I knew he was capible in magic, I've seen quite a bit of the things he's done using it. Haven't seen him use it lots of fights though except for reaching a means to an end like the soul sword or the bands etc.
Meh.
Agreed that writers arent consistant enough with his magic. I did like how they showed him as a capable h2h fighter when he killed that lion while naked.
Also, I missed the comics (purposely didnt read it actually) but I heard something about a Doom vs Black Panther stalemate (what a crock) were Doom was spewing off like a racist a-hole. Is that all true?
Originally posted by redhotrash
Agreed that writers arent consistant enough with his magic. I did like how they showed him as a capable h2h fighter when he killed that lion while naked.
Also, I missed the comics (purposely didnt read it actually) but I heard something about a Doom vs Black Panther stalemate (what a crock) were Doom was spewing off like a racist a-hole. Is that all true?
Doom is racist.
Anyone who's not Von doom, is inferior.
Originally posted by redhotrashDoom punked BP while BP was in his BET suit... in h2h...
Agreed that writers arent consistant enough with his magic. I did like how they showed him as a capable h2h fighter when he killed that lion while naked.
Also, I missed the comics (purposely didnt read it actually) but I heard something about a Doom vs Black Panther stalemate (what a crock) were Doom was spewing off like a racist a-hole. Is that all true?
As for the other stuff, ya...
