Superman/Thor vs B list characters

Originally posted by carver9
If its within his power you shouldnt have a problem showing me him fighting at light speed. I can make it much easier for you, since surfer flies across the galaxy show me him fighting at light speed. If you want you can choose surfer or superman, it dont matter to me, then I'll show you something about magneto. 😉

Are you serious? You said no CIS so Superman (who can move at lightspeed check the respect thread there's dozens of feats of him flying through space in seconds or read a comic stop asking everyone else to do the work) so Superman will be moving at top speed.
And he doesn't even need to move/fight at lightspeed, he could go at a fraction of his top speed and still blitz everyone here.
In fact he doesn't need to fight at lightspeed either. These characters couldn't counter that so there won't actually be any fighting, he just flies straight through them.

Originally posted by The Pict
Are you serious? You said no CIS so Superman (who can move at lightspeed check the respect thread there's dozens of feats of him flying through space in seconds or read a comic stop asking everyone else to do the work) so Superman will be moving at top speed.
And he doesn't even need to move/fight at lightspeed, he could go at a fraction of his top speed and still blitz everyone here.
In fact he doesn't need to fight at lightspeed either. These characters couldn't counter that so there won't actually be any fighting, he just flies straight through them.

I guess you cant find that scan huh. I understand that he can fly through space at top notch speed, I understand that vulcan flew across the solar system in less then a week also but I still wont say that he'll combat Hulk at light speed unless theres some combat feats proving otherwise.

Im off the subject of this battle for now, I just want you to show me that one scan of him fighting at this speed, you can use anyone from the jla if you want.

Originally posted by carver9
I guess you cant find that scan huh. I understand that he can fly through space at top notch speed, I understand that vulcan flew across the solar system in less then a week also but I still wont say that he'll combat Hulk at light speed unless theres some combat feats proving otherwise.

Im off the subject of this battle for now, I just want you to show me that one scan of him fighting at this speed, you can use anyone from the jla if you want.

I already said I don't need to show him fighting at lightspeeds because a) nobody can combat him at these speeds anyway so there won't actually be a "fight" and b) he doesn't even need to go that fast to blitz them. And like I said there are tons of scans in the respect thread of him moving at top speeds and fighting at superspeeds.
The fact there are no scans of him fighting at lightspeed (I think there is one of him fighting WW at near this speed floating around) doesn't change the fact that he will be going at full speed because you said there will be no CIS. So unless your denying the fact that Superman has super speed you have to concede he blitzes the Marvel team. That is unless you can provide some proof they can react to ftl speed attacks. But you can't so lets stop going around in circles.

Don't come back with "scan of him fighting at lightpseed. i'll be waiting" because it shows you have no proof of your own to support your arguments

Edit: Also stop mentioning characters that have no relevence to this fight, stop bringing up SS, Vulcan and the JLA. They have no bearing here, why would I bring up scans of them to support feats of Superman? Sometimes I wish the mods would just ban you from here for the simple fact that you don't actually know how to debate.

Originally posted by The Pict
I already said I don't need to show him fighting at lightspeeds because a) nobody can combat him at these speeds anyway so there won't actually be a "fight" and b) he doesn't even need to go that fast to blitz them. And like I said there are tons of scans in the respect thread of him moving at top speeds and fighting at superspeeds.
The fact there are no scans of him fighting at lightspeed (I think there is one of him fighting WW at near this speed floating around) doesn't change the fact that he will be going at full speed because you said there will be no CIS. So unless your denying the fact that Superman has super speed you have to concede he blitzes the Marvel team. That is unless you can provide some proof they can react to ftl speed attacks. But you can't so lets stop going around in circles.

Don't come back with "scan of him fighting at lightpseed. i'll be waiting" because it shows you have no proof of your own to support your arguments

Edit: Also stop mentioning characters that have no relevence to this fight, stop bringing up SS, Vulcan and the JLA. They have no bearing here, why would I bring up scans of them to support feats of Superman? Sometimes I wish the mods would just ban you from here for the simple fact that you don't actually know how to debate.

Gotcha, I do agree superman is fast enough to get a couple of licks in before they do but again namor is durable enough to talk assaults from superman, apocalypse is also durable enough and magneto has his forcefield up and iron man has his own person shield and is kinda durable himself.

Sometimes I wish the mods would just ban you from here for the simple fact that you don't actually know how to debate.

and this wasnt called for, I agree, I do say some stupid a** sh** and thats when you can bring it up like you previously did but I never insulted you or said anything negative about you or anyone else on the forum. If you see something in my post that you just dont have a comment about then just ignore it or just let me know and 9/10 I'll agree that it was crazy. 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha, I do agree superman is fast enough to get a couple of licks in before they do but again namor is durable enough to talk assaults from superman, apocalypse is also durable enough and magneto has his forcefield up and iron man has his own person shield and is kinda durable himself.

A couple of licks in.....Okay Carver how fast is Superman? Give me an answer because by KMC rules and your own stipulations he will be going at top speed. Maybe all these faster than light feats in comics are wrong. How fast can Superman move?

Also he will one shot Namor, Iron Man and smash through magneto's shield. In less than a second (unless of course you rightfully tell me that Superman isn't actually very fast at all) Do you actually know who Superman is?

Originally posted by carver9
and this wasnt called for, I agree, I do say some stupid a** sh** and thats when you can bring it up like you previously did but I never insulted you or said anything negative about you or anyone else on the forum. If you see something in my post that you just dont have a comment about then just ignore it or just let me know and 9/10 I'll agree that it was crazy. 🙂

Yeah well it's annoying when I make some good points and you just ignore them and start talking about Vulcan fighting Hulk.

Originally posted by Galan007
Didn't see these posted yet..

Superman lifts a pyramid, and takes it to Mars:

Quite impressive, if you consider how much an entire pyramid weighs.

Namor is durable enough to take "assaults" from someone who can carry an entire pyramid to Mars? Don't make me laugh.

A couple of licks in.....Okay Carver how fast is Superman? Give me an answer because by KMC rules and your own stipulations he will be going at top speed. Maybe all these faster than light feats in comics are wrong. How fast can Superman move?

Im not answer this question, I'll put up a scan later of a early bio that he has to answer it. It'll be later on tonight.

Also he will one shot Namor, Iron Man and smash through magneto's shield. In less than a second (unless of course you rightfully tell me that Superman isn't actually very fast at all) Do you actually know who Superman is?

I know who superman is and I also know that superman wont be doing anything that hulk couldnt do with physical strength. Hulk has never one shotted ironman, namor, or magneto. Hell, is there a top tier that has ever one shotted these characters. I know sentry tried taking magneto out easily but failed and hulk tried the same tactic but got trapped by a forcefield that was stated unbreakable. Now if you know of a instance where any of these characters has been one shotted then please let me know.

Yeah well it's annoying when I make some good points and you just ignore them and start talking about Vulcan fighting Hulk.

agreed, this is something that I'll work on (your not the 1st that brought this up.). I do kind of get off the subject and bring in other characters, after today it should be something that shouldnt happen again because people seem to get irritated by it.

Originally posted by carver9
Im not answer this question, I'll put up a scan later of a early bio that he has to answer it. It'll be later on tonight.

Bios mean little to nothing on the forum, I have loads of Marvel Bios but I don't use them in debates.

Originally posted by The Pict
Namor is durable enough to take "assaults" from someone who can carry an entire pyramid to Mars? Don't make me laugh.

I think that he could since he fought a enrage hulk and did quite good. You do know that hulk lifted up a mountain (mountain>>>pyramid) which was stated as having the weight of 150 billion tons and superman was straining when doing that feat where hulk showed no strain. Terrible feat for a character that people say can destroy planets with his hands.

Originally posted by carver9
I think that he could since he fought a enrage hulk and did quite good. You do know that hulk lifted up a mountain (mountain>>>pyramid) which was stated as having the weight of 150 billion tons and superman was straining when doing that feat where hulk showed no strain. Terrible feat for a character that people say can destroy planets with his hands.

Superman recently threw a Sun that was sapping his strength him out into space.

Sun>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mountain.

Plus Hulk gets knocked around by characters that aren't even class 100 so I'm not suprised Namor "did quite good" against him.

Originally posted by The Pict
Superman recently threw a Sun that was sapping his strength him out into space.

Sun>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mountain.

Plus Hulk gets knocked around by characters that aren't even class 100 so I'm not suprised Namor "did quite good" against him.

When was this?

Originally posted by The Pict
Superman recently threw a Sun that was sapping his strength him out into space.

Sun>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mountain.

Plus Hulk gets knocked around by characters that aren't even class 100 so I'm not suprised Namor "did quite good" against him.

Are you referring to the miniature solar system that was growing but was still as small as the buildings in the city. If that sun was the size or anything close to the size of that city, the entire planet would have been destroyed.

Mountain>>>>>that feat.

Originally posted by carver9
You could be right but my definition a "A" list is top tiers, "B" mid tiers, "C" low tiers (super human) "D" (basically a street level character).

But again you could be right, I'll just wait for your post.

This is still going on? b team gets destroyed by bloodlusted heat vision alone.

add a cis free thor and its a stomp.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
MJJ is a B-list (maybe C-list) character, but does that necessarily make him weaker than Supes OR Thor?

Yeah, kinda. I always used A-list to denote each companies most popular characters, not the most powerful.

I'd also encourage everyone to use the tiered system that we have outlined in the comic forum to discuss power levels. It's not perfect, but it creates a standard system of categorization that everyone can quickly become familiar with.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah, kinda. I always used A-list to denote each companies most popular characters, not the most powerful.

I'd also encourage everyone to use the tiered system that we have outlined in the comic forum to discuss power levels. It's not perfect, but it creates a standard system of categorization that everyone can quickly become familiar with.

Yeeeah.

That sig? Not gonna work.

Originally posted by Avlon
This is still going on? b team gets destroyed by bloodlusted heat vision alone.

add a cis free thor and its a stomp.

Heat Vision is going to break Mags shields?

Originally posted by Mindset
Heat Vision is going to break Mags shields?

Or you know, there is Thor on the team.

Originally posted by Juntai
He could probably do it by rubbing his hands together. 😄

Or you know, there is Thor on the team.

Or you know, Superman reacts a gazillion times faster than Mags

Originally posted by llagrok
Or you know, Superman reacts a gazillion times faster than Mags

His shields are already up.