Superman/Thor vs B list characters

Originally posted by DigiMark007
How are Iron Man and Namor doing anything? Are we forgetting that Iron Man had to walk back to SHIELD after getting one-shotted by Thor? And that Supes would be at least that strong, and likely faster?

Originally posted by DigiMark007

After a few seconds, this is a lopsided 2-on-2 fight. Dimenionsal portal BFR's are fancy, but not needed to the point that I'm laughing at people discussing it.

Digi, is this like cutting the grass in Antarctica? dur

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
I said GENERALLY.

Hulk has the potential to be stronger than Superman, but not always.

You like to assume characters are not using their full power in scans(like the Flashes), prove Hulk was stronger than Superman in that comic. 🙂

I dont have to prove that hulk was stronger because I read both of the characters comic (just started with hulk, he use to be a boring character) and I know who is stronger and WWh was a lot stronger then superman. I could just bring up hulk holding a planet together which is trillions and trillions of tons or I could just use him punching onslaught so hard that it was creating hurricanes and even the mighty thor couldnt stand up to it. Or I could use him pushing away two anti matter bombs (basically doing the impossible) or I could use him punching something the size of two earth and destroying it. I can also use him holding a mountain up, 150 billion tons and holding it up for a long time. I can basically keep going. Everything that has been brought up regarding superman that has anything to do with strength is basically involving him flying.

wwh almost lost to stark, would war hulk have lost?

That wasnt regular Iron man that he fought either, that iron man and ww hulk fight almost destroyed a city and by the way wwh wasnt showing any signs of stress, iron man suit was totally destroyed. Hell that ironman and wwh fight was more destructive and displayed much more raw power then the superboy prime and ion fight.

Its a reason why Im asking you about war hulk and wwh, I think that you know the reason and is trying to avoid the question but hey, I could be wrong.

what feats? because there's been nothing definitive to state all star is any considerable amount stronger than standard superman...

Show me something saying that superman could lift even close to what all star supes lift. Show me superman whistling and destroying a island while doing so or what about him taking a punch by hercules and not even flinching.

How are Iron Man and Namor doing anything? Are we forgetting that Iron Man had to walk back to SHIELD after getting one-shotted by Thor? And that Supes would be at least that strong, and likely faster?

I guess you dont know what thor that was that ironman fought. That same thor would wreck superman. Not only was ironman punched but he was hit by lightning. It was actually a good showing for iron man to be standing from one assault from that thor.

Originally posted by carver9
I guess you dont know what thor that was that ironman fought. That same thor would wreck superman. Not only was ironman punched but he was hit by lightning. It was actually a good showing for iron man to be standing from one assault from that thor.

I see Magneto being the biggest problem for Supes and Thor. Didn't Magneto work his mojo on Thors hammer once?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
How are Iron Man and Namor doing anything? Are we forgetting that Iron Man had to walk back to SHIELD after getting one-shotted by Thor? And that Supes would be at least that strong, and likely faster?

After a few seconds, this is a lopsided 2-on-2 fight. Dimenionsal portal BFR's are fancy, but not needed to the point that I'm laughing at people discussing it.

Agreed.

Two strong herald characters WITHOUT CIS?

Removing their limitations helps Superman and Thor a lot more than it helps the team. We've got 2 high metas and 2 low heralds against 2 high heralds with their own series? This should be closed for spite!

Originally posted by carver9

There aint no soloing go on in this fight.

Of course there is, they can't combat Superman's speed.

Originally posted by Badabing
Don't let Tony Stark, the KMC poster, read that post. 😛
Doctor Polaris has given the JLA fits recently. I can't remember if he was amped because it happened at the South Pole. But yeah, CIS is off. Thor and Supes are beasts not holding back. Even Classic Thor was stated to hold back his powers.

Digi, is this like cutting the grass in Antarctica? dur

Lulz.

Anyway, yeah, for some reason people are all over current Thor's nuts, which is fine, but at the expense of Classic. Classic Thor still has a lot better feats. Take away the Odinforce (Current's claim to fame) and you're looking at the exact same power set with far less feats (though to my knowledge all classic feats are still valid for current).

Originally posted by llagrok
Agreed.

Two strong herald characters WITHOUT CIS?

Removing their limitations helps Superman and Thor a lot more than it helps the team. We've got 2 high metas and 2 low heralds against 2 high heralds with their own series? This should be closed for spite!

Not closed. It wasn't intentional spite. But yeah, it's a lopsided thread.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I see Magneto being the biggest problem for Supes and Thor. Didn't Magneto work his mojo on Thors hammer once?

http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drpolarisvssuperman9md8.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drpolarisvssuperman10zj3.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drpolarisvssuperman8yi0.jpg

She basically blind him in the last scan. Magneto can beat him.

Originally posted by The Pict
Of course there is, they can't combat Superman's speed.

The only thing that I can do is laugh at this. 😆

Originally posted by carver9
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drpolarisvssuperman9md8.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drpolarisvssuperman10zj3.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drpolarisvssuperman8yi0.jpg

She basically blind him in the last scan. Magneto can beat him.

Without some sort of prep they won't know what Supes weakness are. and plus (once again) they can't touch Superman because he moves at lightspeeds. They're dead before they know what's happening.

Originally posted by carver9
The only thing that I can do is laugh at this. 😆

I'm not surprised

Originally posted by carver9
The only thing that I can do is laugh at this. 😆

You said that CIS is absent from this fight, which means Superman will be constantly using his super-speed, even if he doesn’t utilize his speed in a majority of his battles.

Originally posted by The Pict
Without some sort of prep they won't know what Supes weakness are. and plus (once again) they can't touch Superman because he moves at lightspeeds. They're dead before they know what's happening.

Im still waiting for that scan of him fighting at light speed.

Originally posted by Rorschach
You said that CIS is absent from this fight, which means Superman will be constantly using his super-speed, even if he doesn’t utilize his speed in a majority of his battles.

So youre basically saying that superman can punch through magneto forcefield, one shot apocalypse, etc...

I highly disagree with that.

Originally posted by carver9
Im still waiting for that scan of him fighting at light speed.

Still waiting for a scan of Magneto tackling a character moving at light speeds.

Originally posted by carver9
So youre basically saying that superman can punch through magneto forcefield, one shot apocalypse, etc...

I highly disagree with that.

No, what I'm saying is that Superman will constantly be using his super-speed in this fight.

I didn't say anything about him punching through Mangeto's shields or one shotting Apocalypse. You're inability to comprehend simple sentences is beginning annoy me.

Originally posted by carver9
So youre basically saying that superman can punch through magneto forcefield, one shot apocalypse, etc...

I highly disagree with that.

He didn't say anything about one shots.... 😕

Seriously just think before you post.

Originally posted by Badabing
Don't let Tony Stark, the KMC poster, read that post. 😛
Doctor Polaris has given the JLA fits recently. I can't remember if he was amped because it happened at the South Pole. But yeah, CIS is off. Thor and Supes are beasts not holding back. Even Classic Thor was stated to hold back his powers.

Digi, is this like cutting the grass in Antarctica? dur

Polaris's powers were way out of control during that time. He was generating so much magnetic force that he WAS the South Pole.

He is very powerful, but schitzo, so his power depends on which personality is control.