Should we risk creating a black hole?

Originally posted by jaden101
what i find the most mind boggling isn't the physics that the LHC is supposed to investigate...it's how you think of building something like a particle accelarator/collider in the 1st place...and all the components that go into it

Ineed. Next up is ITER.

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Originally posted by lord xyz
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I saw a documentary which showed that matter doesn´t actually exists, that atoms contain no matter just energetic particles and all that.

So even if the LHC goes pear shaped and tentacle ridden brain sucking monsters run around sucking folk into their black hole mouths, it won´t really matter will it.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
New developement;

GENEVA - The world's largest particle collider passed its first major tests by firing two beams of protons in opposite directions around a 17-mile (27-kilometer) underground ring Wednesday in what scientists hope is the next great step to understanding the makeup of the universe.

After a series of trial runs, two white dots flashed on a computer screen at 10:26 a.m. (0826 GMT) particles.

$9 billion spent to see two white dots flashing on a computer....Hahahaha!!!

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
$9 billion spent to see two white dots flashing on a computer....Hahahaha!!!

Uh, no. $9 billion plus operating costs.

I'm trying to be positive about the whole thing, but the costs of operating this effing thing as opposed to feeding starving people is deplorable.

Are they trying to discover a new form of energy? I mean if the expenditure is nothing more than some eggheads idea of finding out if there are particles smaller than corpuscles, someone needs to be arrested, or worse.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I'm trying to be positive about the whole thing, but the costs of operating this effing thing as opposed to feeding starving people is deplorable.

Are they trying to discover a new form of energy? I mean if the expenditure is nothing more than some eggheads idea of finding out if there are particles smaller than corpuscles, someone needs to be arrested, or worse.

It isn't money that would have gone to feed the starving anyway, unless you want to electrocute or crush them. Discovering the nature of new fundamental particles has been on of the major bases in advancing science (and thus technology and thus the ability to feed starving people) since Dalton's atomic theory.

Advances in science might reach a point where people would no longer starve, or poverty would be nonexistant. It's a very Star Trek way of looking at it, I know, but it's possible.

My issue with this is that it's irresponsible science. If I wanted to conduct an experiment and there was a chance it could blow up a city block then I would be stopped. How is this any different?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
My issue with this is that it's irresponsible science. If I wanted to conduct an experiment and there was a chance it could blow up a city block then I would be stopped. How is this any different?

Because there is a very slim chance that something completely harmless might happen if the LHC malfunctions, and that's it. There's zero chance of anyone but the people operating it being hurt (and all of them have chosen to be there).

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because there is a very slim chance that something completely harmless might happen if the LHC malfunctions, and that's it. There's zero chance of anyone but the people operating it being hurt (and all of them have chosen to be there).

I cant go with that zero chance thing but guessing its doubtful anything will happen but there is a chance something catastrophic could happen!
So Im gonna keep drinkin...lol

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
My issue with this is that it's irresponsible science. If I wanted to conduct an experiment and there was a chance it could blow up a city block then I would be stopped. How is this any different?

It's different because the probability of it creating a blackhole is nothing but crap spouted out by morons. Our atmosphere is bombarded by energized particles that are at a much higher energy state than what we can create with the LHC. Yet, we're still here.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
My issue with this is that it's irresponsible science. If I wanted to conduct an experiment and there was a chance it could blow up a city block then I would be stopped. How is this any different?

In case anyone's forgotten, we have laboratories that produce anti-matter. One particle of which, if escaped from containment, would be enough to destroy an area the size of New York City.

Here are some live cams at the LHC

http://lhc-live.com/

see we are gonna die! Im gonna drink even more now! 🍺

Originally posted by Jack Daniels
see we are gonna die! Im gonna drink even more now! 🍺

😱 Is that possible? 😂

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
My issue with this is that it's irresponsible science.

🙁

I'm running for Prime Minister on the platform of massive educational reforms...

Originally posted by Enyalus
In case anyone's forgotten, we have laboratories that produce anti-matter. One particle of which, if escaped from containment, would be enough to destroy an area the size of New York City.

Not even close and you're an idiot for thinking so.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
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I saw a documentary which showed that matter doesn´t actually exists, that atoms contain no matter just energetic particles and all that.

So even if the LHC goes pear shaped and tentacle ridden brain sucking monsters run around sucking folk into their black hole mouths, it won´t really matter will it.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Uh, no. $9 billion plus operating costs.

You know, I would have taken that money and given it to Dr. Ronald Mallett for his time project.

I like his ideas. 😮