Superman and Batman vs Thor and Captian America

Originally posted by carver9
Prime tried that against cap ending with cap blocking it. Hell everyone tried a blitz and even trapped captain america in a room filed with thousands of lasers and he basically dodged/blocked it. Captain america does the impossible. Bullets hit its target at the blink of an eye and cap can pick bullets out of the air (basically see them in slow motion.). I can actually see cap blocking an assault from superman, its cap, the god of comics. He blocked a blitz from hyperion, a hammer toss from thor that is stated as going the speed of light, an attack from silver surfer. I can keep going.

Cap deserves to be in this fight and no Im not a cap fan, I hate the character but I not going to down play his ability. Again no, he wont give superman a fight but he has the ability to block attacks from him. Batman isnt easily getting taken out by a lightning bolt either. A lot have tried powerful attacks and failed, thor aint no different.

Im glad we agree. And you're right.

Cap Blocking the force of a thousand ton bloodlusted punch from Supes will BFR him through sheer force.

And in this non-prep'd battle Batman IS taken out with a Lightning Bolt at the 'go' - This is Blood lusted and nonprep'd and as much as i love them Batman and Captain america are non factors here. And you're also correct, cap did dodge bullets..

but lucky for us we have someone here who is indeed, faster than said speeding bullet.

so..Thor vs Superman yeah?

Originally posted by Juk3n
Im glad we agree. And you're right.

Cap Blocking the force of a thousand ton bloodlusted punch from Supes will BFR him through sheer force.

And in this non-prep'd battle Batman IS taken out with a Lightning Bolt at the 'go' - This is Blood lusted and nonprep'd and as much as i love them Batman and Captain america are non factors here. And you're also correct, cap did dodge bullets..

but lucky for us we have someone here who is indeed, faster than said speeding bullet.

so..Thor vs Superman yeah?

I never said that cap would be anything towards superman but I know that a 1000 ton punch aint sending cap nowhere since cap shield has vibranium which absorbs ANY impact that touches it. Cap would be just fine with superman hitting his shield. Thor hammer has knocked out gods but cap shield stood up to it with no problem. If superman had a vibranium suit while fighting thor, there would be next to nothing that thor could do to superman, not even h2h combat would help him cince all of his attacks would be absorbed.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said that cap would be anything towards superman but I know that a 1000 ton punch aint sending cap nowhere since cap shield has vibranium which absorbs ANY impact that touches it. Cap would be just fine with superman hitting his shield. Thor hammer has knocked out gods but cap shield stood up to it with no problem. If superman had a vibranium suit while fighting thor, there would be next to nothing that thor could do to superman, not even h2h combat would help him cince all of his attacks would be absorbed.

I actually cant believe you are doubting Superman can HIT Captain america on his body or face faster than Cap can raise his shield.

Cap is getting hit in this battle. There isnt an argument Supes is BFR or killing cap at the 'go' it IS within his power..and so for all intents and purposes, in THIS battle, he is doing it.

Caps shield CAN witstand blows from Supes, but my clear unquestionable UNARGUABLE point is he will not get a chance to block.

I know you dont want to agree, i know this.. but you have to, afterall to imply that it is in Captain Americas powerset to react faster than Superman is bordering on crazy..and i cant argue with crazy people.

So please just accept a non prep'd Bats and Cap as being obliterated at the 'Go'.

Originally posted by Juk3n
I actually cant believe you are doubting Superman can HIT Captain america on his body or face faster than Cap can raise his shield.

Cap is getting hit in this battle. There isnt an argument Supes is BFR or killing cap at the 'go' it IS within his power..and so for all intents and purposes, in THIS battle, he is doing it.

Caps shield CAN witstand blows from Supes, but my clear unquestionable UNARGUABLE point is he will not get a chance to block.

I know you dont want to agree, i know this.. but you have to, afterall to imply that it is in Captain Americas powerset to react faster than Superman is bordering on crazy..and i cant argue with crazy people.

So please just accept a non prep'd Bats and Cap as being obliterated at the 'Go'.

Fact is, Superman would break off in battle 50 times out of a 100 to save Batman if he's in danger. The only thing stopping him from doing it all the time is that they trained together enough that Batman continually berates him for breaking from the gameplan and that Batman can take care of himself. Thor would probably break off 50 times out of a 100 to do the same for Cap. Although he gets caught up in battle often, to the point where he even ignores collateral damage that he causes, he won't risk Cap dying, even if Cap can defend himself with that shield of his. And Batman could still help Superman against Thor and as we've seen many times, Cap has actually saved Thor from this level of opposition.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It's possible that if Superman speeds at Cap and tries to get around his shield, that a Mjolnir throw will cut him off. In the same way, a lightning bolt from Thor sent towards Batman may be blocked by Superman. I personally don't think it's as clear cut as you believe. They have common knowledge of each other and they are not bloodlusted. Superman and Thor will know they have to protect their teammates before ever going for the win. Which is why the battle is interesting. CIS is not thrown out.

Fact is, Superman would break off in battle 50 times out of a 100 to save Batman if he's in danger. The only thing stopping him from doing it all the time is that they trained together enough that Batman continually berates him for breaking from the gameplan and that Batman can take care of himself. Thor would probably break off 50 times out of a 100 to do the same for Cap. Although he gets caught up in battle often, to the point where he even ignores collateral damage that he causes, he won't risk Cap dying, even if Cap can defend himself with that shield of his. And Batman could still help Superman against Thor and as we've seen many times, Cap has actually saved Thor from this level of opposition.

I know I just gave you the thumbs-up in another thread, but this is just too good. This is really exactly how I pictured this fight going, too.

So: 👆

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It's possible that if Superman speeds at Cap and tries to get around his shield, that a Mjolnir throw will cut him off. In the same way, a lightning bolt from Thor sent towards Batman may be blocked by Superman. I personally don't think it's as clear cut as you believe. They have common knowledge of each other and they are not bloodlusted. Superman and Thor will know they have to protect their teammates before ever going for the win. Which is why the battle is interesting. CIS is not thrown out.

Fact is, Superman would break off in battle 50 times out of a 100 to save Batman if he's in danger. The only thing stopping him from doing it all the time is that they trained together enough that Batman continually berates him for breaking from the gameplan and that Batman can take care of himself. Thor would probably break off 50 times out of a 100 to do the same for Cap. Although he gets caught up in battle often, to the point where he even ignores collateral damage that he causes, he won't risk Cap dying, even if Cap can defend himself with that shield of his. And Batman could still help Superman against Thor and as we've seen many times, Cap has actually saved Thor from this level of opposition.

good post yet again. Damn Im taking notes.

Originally posted by Juk3n
I actually cant believe you are doubting Superman can HIT Captain america on his body or face faster than Cap can raise his shield.

Cap is getting hit in this battle. There isnt an argument Supes is BFR or killing cap at the 'go' it IS within his power..and so for all intents and purposes, in THIS battle, he is doing it.

Caps shield CAN witstand blows from Supes, but my clear unquestionable UNARGUABLE point is he will not get a chance to block.

I know you dont want to agree, i know this.. but you have to, afterall to imply that it is in Captain Americas powerset to react faster than Superman is bordering on crazy..and i cant argue with crazy people.

So please just accept a non prep'd Bats and Cap as being obliterated at the 'Go'.

I said from one attack not mutiples, just like I said that thor 1st attack might not lay into batman due to batman dodging common things throughout his career. Now if superman press his attack on captain america (which I dont think that he'll get the chance due to thor) then cap is dead, like if thor press his attack on bats (which I dont think that he can due to supes) then cap and bats are dead.

😮

Originally posted by carver9
I said from one attack not mutiples, just like I said that thor 1st attack might not lay into batman due to batman dodging common things throughout his career. Now if superman press his attack on captain america (which I dont think that he'll get the chance due to thor) then cap is dead, like if thor press his attack on bats (which I dont think that he can due to supes) then cap and bats are dead.

Aye, well..thor or Supes coming to the rescure of there partner is the factor.

Is Thor faster than Superman? Flight speed OR combat speed?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It's possible that if Superman speeds at Cap and tries to get around his shield, that a Mjolnir throw will cut him off. In the same way, a lightning bolt from Thor sent towards Batman may be blocked by Superman. I personally don't think it's as clear cut as you believe. They have common knowledge of each other and they are not bloodlusted. Superman and Thor will know they have to protect their teammates before ever going for the win. Which is why the battle is interesting. CIS is not thrown out.

Fact is, Superman would break off in battle 50 times out of a 100 to save Batman if he's in danger. The only thing stopping him from doing it all the time is that they trained together enough that Batman continually berates him for breaking from the gameplan and that Batman can take care of himself. Thor would probably break off 50 times out of a 100 to do the same for Cap. Although he gets caught up in battle often, to the point where he even ignores collateral damage that he causes, he won't risk Cap dying, even if Cap can defend himself with that shield of his. And Batman could still help Superman against Thor and as we've seen many times, Cap has actually saved Thor from this level of opposition.

nice post... lord knows i don't always agree with you, but i do here...

Originally posted by Juk3n
Aye, well..thor or Supes coming to the rescure of there partner is the factor.

Is Thor faster than Superman? Flight speed OR combat speed?

Naah, hes not faster then supes but I think that he has some amazing reflexes to intervein an attacking superman. Gladiator has blitzed and crossed galaxies and thor went h2h with him. Hyperion has crossed galaxies in minutes and blitzed before and thor has kept up with him. Hell it was even stated in a hyperion comic that he can move faster then light.

When it comes to battling, thor has kept up with the best but yeah superman is faster then thor but I dont think that it would change the outcome of the battle. Silver surfer is faster then thor but thor has whooped that a** on numerous of occasions.

Originally posted by Raoul
nice post... lord knows i don't always agree with you, but i do here...

I wonder why you two go at it all the time. I shouldnt be laughing but I find it hilarious sometimes.

Sorry about that. 🙂

You two are still some of the best debators we got out here though. You make it hard to argue against the both of you 😠

Originally posted by Juk3n
Aye, well..thor or Supes coming to the rescure of there partner is the factor.

Is Thor faster than Superman? Flight speed OR combat speed?

If that's the case, despite Superman's superior speed and ability to simply zip behind Cap and smack his head, Superman will probably either HV or zoom in and punch his shield. Which gives Thor just that extra moment's opportunity to help Cap. Whether it's at the beginning or during a fight.

Originally posted by Raoul
nice post... lord knows i don't always agree with you, but i do here...

🐰

... not really. dur

Originally posted by carver9
I wonder why you two go at it all the time. I shouldnt be laughing but I find it hilarious sometimes.

Sorry about that. 🙂

You two are still some of the best debators we got out here though. You make it hard to argue against the both of you 😠

... what?
🐰

... WHAT?!
durfist

... not really. dur

Supes and bats win.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No. Neither, by a fair margin. Unless you consider warps akin to flight speed. But Mjolnir can be. I also believe that Cap has greater defense than Superman and Batman would give him credit. I personally don't think his shield's absorption properties are properly understood by common folk in the Marvel Universe. Everyone's always beating on it, or trying to shoot it with adamantium bullets or whatever.

If that's the case, despite Superman's superior speed and ability to simply zip behind Cap and smack his head, Superman will probably either HV or zoom in and punch his shield. Which gives Thor just that extra moment's opportunity to help Cap. Whether it's at the beginning or during a fight.
Screw you and your disagreeing and/or agreeing...

🐰

... not really. dur
Screw you too...

... what?
🐰

... WHAT?!
durfist

... not really. dur

durelly

^ uhuh

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No. Neither, by a fair margin. Unless you consider warps akin to flight speed. But Mjolnir can be. I also believe that Cap has greater defense than Superman and Batman would give him credit. I personally don't think his shield's absorption properties are properly understood by common folk in the Marvel Universe. Everyone's always beating on it, or trying to shoot it with adamantium bullets or whatever.

If that's the case, despite Superman's superior speed and ability to simply zip behind Cap and smack his head, Superman will probably either HV or zoom in and punch his shield. Which gives Thor just that extra moment's opportunity to help Cap. Whether it's at the beginning or during a fight.
Screw you and your disagreeing and/or agreeing...

🐰

... not really. dur

boxing
Screw you too...

... what?
🐰

... WHAT?!
durfist

... not really. dur

boxing

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ uhuh

don't you look at me in that tone of voice...

^ weep...

... uhuh

Hmm... even if we assume that Superman and Thor give up on going after the significantly weaker opponent seeing it as futile... doesn't the thread sort of amount to...

Superman vs Thor... again...
& Captain America vs Batman... again...

I'm not sure the latter fight would finish fast enough or that whoever wins will affect the former fight significantly...
And whoever wins the former fight rapestomps the weaker opponent too...

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