Originally posted by xmarksthespotI can think of one scenario where this wouldn't be reduced to A vs. B and C vs. D. Thor and Cap switch weapons. Thor becomes much less versatile but picks up enhanced defense. Thor w/o Mjolnir is not to be scoffed at as anyone who has read 'Ragnarok' can attest to. And Thor has indeed shown competence with his shield. Here are scans of mortal Thor using Cap's shield:
Hmm... even if we assume that Superman and Thor give up on going after the significantly weaker opponent seeing it as futile... doesn't the thread sort of amount to...Superman vs Thor... again...
& Captain America vs Batman... again...I'm not sure the latter fight would finish fast enough or that whoever wins will affect the former fight significantly...
And whoever wins the former fight rapestomps the weaker opponent too...ermm
So what does Cap gain by using Mjolnir? Well, he would definitely be granted great power at no expense to Thor. When Cap first picked up Mjolnir, Thor was not depowered despite picking up an unquantified power boost to himself:
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca1pk7.jpg
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca2rw6.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca3ke3.jpg
It's even possible that Thor could bestow upon Cap, his very own powers without penalty. After Eric Masterson freed Thor from being trapped in his soul where Odin banished him, Thor told Eric Masterson to grab Mjolnir and granted him his power while retaining his own powers. If this sounds hard to believe, Thor and Masterson Thor brawled against one another in Asgard when the Enchantress entranced Masterson. It never quantified that Thor's own might was now cut in half and by plain presentation, they were equals in power. Then again, you could arguably say that Thor's power was cut in half or Masterson was a special case by having their souls linked and Thor could not bequeath full power to anyone other than him. Still, if Cap and Thor ever thought up a plan like this, it'd be a whole new ball game.
Originally posted by Raoulbaby
crybaby...
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I can think of one scenario where this wouldn't be reduced to A vs. B and C vs. D. Thor and Cap switch weapons. Thor becomes much less versatile but picks up enhanced defense. Thor w/o Mjolnir is not to be scoffed at as anyone who has read 'Ragnarok' can attest to. And Thor has indeed shown competence with his shield. Here are scans of mortal Thor using Cap's shield:
http://img319.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor496084hl.jpg
http://img319.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor49609108mh.jpgSo what does Cap gain by using Mjolnir? Well, he would definitely be granted great power at no expense to Thor. When Cap first picked up Mjolnir, Thor was not depowered despite picking up an unquantified power boost to himself:
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca1pk7.jpg
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca2rw6.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca3ke3.jpgIt's even possible that Thor could bestow upon Cap, his very own powers without penalty. After Eric Masterson freed Thor from being trapped in his soul where Odin banished him, Thor told Eric Masterson to grab Mjolnir and granted him his power while retaining his own powers. If this sounds hard to believe, Thor and Masterson Thor brawled against one another in Asgard when the Enchantress entranced Masterson. It never quantified that Thor's own might was now cut in half and by plain presentation, they were equals in power. Then again, you could arguably say that Thor's power was cut in half or Masterson was a special case by having their souls linked and Thor could not bequeath full power to anyone other than him. Still, if Cap and Thor ever thought up a plan like this, it'd be a whole new ball game.
baby
Wow
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I can think of one scenario where this wouldn't be reduced to A vs. B and C vs. D. Thor and Cap switch weapons. Thor becomes much less versatile but picks up enhanced defense. Thor w/o Mjolnir is not to be scoffed at as anyone who has read 'Ragnarok' can attest to. And Thor has indeed shown competence with his shield. Here are scans of mortal Thor using Cap's shield:
http://img319.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor496084hl.jpg
http://img319.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor49609108mh.jpgSo what does Cap gain by using Mjolnir? Well, he would definitely be granted great power at no expense to Thor. When Cap first picked up Mjolnir, Thor was not depowered despite picking up an unquantified power boost to himself:
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca1pk7.jpg
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca2rw6.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca3ke3.jpgIt's even possible that Thor could bestow upon Cap, his very own powers without penalty. After Eric Masterson freed Thor from being trapped in his soul where Odin banished him, Thor told Eric Masterson to grab Mjolnir and granted him his power while retaining his own powers. If this sounds hard to believe, Thor and Masterson Thor brawled against one another in Asgard when the Enchantress entranced Masterson. It never quantified that Thor's own might was now cut in half and by plain presentation, they were equals in power. Then again, you could arguably say that Thor's power was cut in half or Masterson was a special case by having their souls linked and Thor could not bequeath full power to anyone other than him. Still, if Cap and Thor ever thought up a plan like this, it'd be a whole new ball game.
baby
It wouldn't even be a fight if Cap got Thor's Hammer they would dominate Superman and Batman.
Originally posted by carver9
Show me
Okay!
Given: Superman is faster than Thor.
Thus he is fast enough to get the first hit in.
So it suffices to show that Supes is smart enough to connect more hits after this first hit.
Superman has above average I.Q. and is very experienced and trained in h2h fighting. Thus he is smart enough to know to connect more hits in succession to form a combo. End of proof.
Originally posted by carver9
Prime tried that against cap ending with cap blocking it. Hell everyone tried a blitz and even trapped captain america in a room filed with thousands of lasers and he basically dodged/blocked it. Captain america does the impossible. Bullets hit its target at the blink of an eye and cap can pick bullets out of the air (basically see them in slow motion.). I can actually see cap blocking an assault from superman, its cap, the god of comics. He blocked a blitz from hyperion, a hammer toss from thor that is stated as going the speed of light, an attack from silver surfer. I can keep going.Cap deserves to be in this fight and no Im not a cap fan, I hate the character but I not going to down play his ability. Again no, he wont give superman a fight but he has the ability to block attacks from him. Batman isnt easily getting taken out by a lightning bolt either. A lot have tried powerful attacks and failed, thor aint no different.
Its amazing how you exaggerate things to the point of lying.
If I can see a 600mph bullet at 300mph then can I see the bullet in slow motion? You lose all credibility if you think CA can't die in this fight in less than a few seconds.
