Delph's League of Champions Season One Discussion Thread

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The Australian Outback.

Crikey.

Originally posted by illadelph12
The Australian Outback.

Crikey.

Sandman would have been a great pick for this week's battles.

I'll be posting the matches momentarily. We had an impromptu meeting here at work due to an imminent collapse of a large mortgage company which is one of our customers. Sorry for the delay.

It's OK, Delph🙂

Delph, where's my\Kandy's match? I've send you my writeup (don't know about Id\Kandy's), and I'm waiting for the match🙂

Waiting on your opponents.

😂

Sorry Digi, not to crap all over your parade or anything, but by having Minion kill three members of your own team during prep then amalgamate with the sole remaining character I'm pretty sure you just broke the most basic league rule:

You have to field three (3) characters onto the battlefield for each match.

You have effectively left yourself with only one character before the match has even started and can't fulfill this basic rule.

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So Ill..... what's the ruling on this?

Ah.

In the original version of the writeup, I had Joker's corpse along as well as Mary/Freddy, so it wasn't an issue. I forgot to edit it when I added Judomaster.

It would be just as easy to kill Mary and Freddy separately though. If it's really an issue, we can rearrange something, but the specific note about the rule that I made in the writeup shows that I wasn't trying to ignore it, but rather work within the rules.

If possible, I'll make a note that I kill them separately.

Wait, no. Had a brain fart there. I have the Mary/Freddy amalgamation and KK. And I bring their corpses into the battle with me. There's a note in the writeup about it. Technically I'm fielding 3 combatants, just 2 dead ones (or transferred ones, rather), and it was cleared by ill, so I'm good.

Dead people can't be combatants.

com·bat·ant (kəm-bāt'nt, kŏm'bə-tnt) Pronunciation Key
n. One, such as a person or a combat vehicle, that takes part in armed strife.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/combatants

er, yeah. sorry digi, but unless you're fielding dead girl, i can't imagine how your plan can work . . . 😬

Like I said, it was cleared by delph. The 3 characters don't have to be alive. I can post the exchange if needed, or he can just confirm it next time he's on. I'm not doing anything that wasn't previously approved. If it hadn't been approved, I wouldn't be doing it. As it is, I asked for the ruling, got it, and implemented it into the writeup by having Minion take a couple corpses with him into battle.

Imposing your interpretation of the rules only works if you're the one establishing the precedents. Otherwise, no.

As for Scoob's dictionary link, a corpse would qualify under it. They're "taking part" in the proceedings, just in a non-active manner. But that's beside the point, as my earlier point there still stands.


illadelph12 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2008 03:27 PM:
Hmm...

Actually, yeah, you can kill your teammate in prep and assimilate them, but their corpse would be brought to the battlefield.

/discussion

Originally posted by DigiMark007
/discussion

We were also told Cortez was fine for his price ... he was later neutered.

PMd discussions aren't always the final word.

Fair enough. But declaring it illegal doesn't work either when it's already been established as ok. If you can give credible reasons for ill to reverse the ruling, then by all means do so. Problem is, it's not the "oh, didn't think of that..." scenario that Cortez was. He knew exactly what I was doing with Minion and approved it.

Unless it's overturned, it's legal. And I really can't fathom a reason why it would be, since "we want Digi's prep to be illegal" doesn't really cut it, especially since precedents and rules are usually harder to overturn than point values, since new evidence can't present itself on a rule the same way as it can with characters.

It's nothing to do with those "quotes" you have, it just seems to me that when we get told we have to field a 3 character team it seems implied that it means "3 living characters".

Meh, not like we're worried about your plan anyway, just want to get the situation cleared up.

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Perhaps it is implied, but not explicitly. And it doesn't seem to be obvious to me. Which is why I checked. And in this case, your assumption was wrong. Otherwise I would've done this over the course of 3-4 matches, so that I could continually field 3 living participants. Like I said, I'm not breaking the rules. I'm working within them. And if anything I was planning was illegal, I would change it instead of making false justifications for it. As it is, I have no such attempts at false justification. I checked every phase of my plan with rulings and/or scans before I did it, so that discussions like these could be easily put to rest.

But you have to keep me honest, so no hard feelings. I expected nothing less from you two, which is why I made sure to protect my plan so meticulously.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I made sure to protect my plan so meticulously.

All that planning, heh, be a shame to see it all end in failure ... 😖hifty:

Fielding the corpses of your teammates is legal so long as you meet the 3 character quota. I don't recommend fielding 3 corpses, however.

The Cortez issue was due to an oversight on my part. I'd forgotten about his overload ability, and thought he was relegated to only effecting mutants when I'd stated that price (because Cortez would be tactically pigeonholed under those circumstances and just be a walking energy drink for mutants).

Originally posted by illadelph12
I don't recommend fielding 3 corpses, however.

2 corpses and a teambuster, however, is ok.

😊

Thanks for clearing the issue ill. And thanks for holding me to a high standard of proof, Scoob. Like I said, I expect nothing less.