Batman 3's Villain?

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Two-Face must be dead, otherwise why else would Batman take responsibility for the murders? If Two-Face is alive and up to no good, then there's no reason why Batman would accept the responsibility; Two-Face could simply take credit for the murders himself.

Also, the good people of Gotham would think things are a little weird if there's a guy running round with half of Harvey Dent's face, despite there being a memorial for him.

I say, "No, thanks" to The Riddler, Bane, etc. as the main villain. I'd put good money on The Joker being back, a side-villain a la Deathstroke or Deadshot on the trail of Batman, and Batman on the run from the law. That's the final message of The Dark Knight, so it's obviously going to play a part in the next one.

Batman is taking responsibility because he doesn't the citizens pf Gotham to know that Harvey Dent and Two Face is one and the same. And Two Face is alive because according to Nolan and them Two Face is going to be in the next film. Unless o fcourse Nolan changes his mind and goes in a different direction which I doubt

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Batman is taking responsibility because he doesn't the citizens pf Gotham to know that Harvey Dent and Two Face is one and the same. And Two Face is alive because according to Nolan and them Two Face is going to be in the next film. Unless o fcourse Nolan changes his mind and goes in a different direction which I doubt

But like he said, if Harvey ever escaped, then how would they explain him running around killing people with this scarred up half of a face when supposedly Batman did the killings and he was never scarred up (they never told the citizens Harvey got scarred)?

Originally posted by Da Joker
He would accept responsibility either way because he wouldn't want Gotham to know he murdered those people.

You mistake me for a fool. I understand that simple principle, but if Two-Face is alive, then other people are going to know about it. Two-Face wouldn't stick to the pretense that Batman committed those murders when he knows that it was he that did them. Doing that would make him accomplice in Batman's plot, but if he is Batman's adversary then he wouldn't be going along with it. Simpe enough, right?

Originally posted by TheVapor
Batman takes responsibility for the murders to preserve Harvey's image as a good-guy. 2nd, Harvey probably wouldn't come out in public if he was trying to take down organized crime, he wouldn't want to attract attention to himself. Lastly, Nolan said he wouldn't recast Joker, and to have Joker in the next one would be too repetitive and feel like Dark Knight Redux.

See above, plus...If Two-Face is the villain, why would he be trying to take down organised crime? It was pretty clear at the end of TDK that Harvey Dent is no more; whether that is being dead or fighting the good fight. Also, please link me to a page where I can read Nolan saying that he won't recast The Joker. Thx.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Batman is taking responsibility because he doesn't the citizens pf Gotham to know that Harvey Dent and Two Face is one and the same. And Two Face is alive because according to Nolan and them Two Face is going to be in the next film. Unless o fcourse Nolan changes his mind and goes in a different direction which I doubt

Duh, another one. See above, above, and yonder, plus...Two-Face is called 'Two-Face' because...he....has...two...faces...One of which is Harvey Dent's face, so if the people of Gotham have held a memorial for the deceased Harvey Dent, how are they going to reconcile the fact that THERE'S A GUY RUNNING AROUND WITH HALF OF HIS FACE?

Ya Krunk - Two-Face could be alive and locked up. Once he gets out, then it would have to be a time when Batman is back on the good side of the citizens of Gothem. But it could work to have Two-Face. Obviously they wouldn't have Two-Face running free and Batman still taking blame for the murders, but if Two-Face doesn't escape until the second half of the next movie, it could work.

See above, plus...If Two-Face is the villain, why would he be trying to take down organised crime? It was pretty clear at the end of TDK that Harvey Dent is no more; whether that is being dead or fighting the good fight. Also, please link me to a page where I can read Nolan saying that he won't recast The Joker. Thx.

Before he actually becomes Two-face he leaves the boundaries of being the guy that fights villains fairly[when he had the Joker henchmen tied up and threatened to kill him [although he had transformed that far yet]]. At the end of Dark Knight he is confused, half of him wants to take down the police because of what they've done, and half wants to still take down evil-doers like Maroni and Joker. He accepts the whole chaos thing, and so if he is alive we could see him doing a lot of coin flipping in the next movie to decide whether he does the 'good' thing or 'bad' thing.

As for him having half of his face, he could, like I said, stay in the shadows, or better yet, cover his face. i don't think it would be too outlandish for him to do.

And finally with Nolan recasting the Joker, I misheard the report apparently as he only 'doesn't know' what he's going to do at all for the next film yet; http://www.movieweb.com/news/18/29618.php

apparently this is where all of the Riddler hype came from.

I didn't know Oldman tried to get out. That would have been a big mistake. Though, how come everybody was under contract besides Holmes? They tried to make it sound like it was Holmes' choice, but now it sounds like if the company wanted the actors to stay, it made sure they couldn't leave. Maybe not so much of Holmes choice afterall.

Originally posted by Myth
Ya Krunk - Two-Face could be alive and locked up. Once he gets out, then it would have to be a time when Batman is back on the good side of the citizens of Gothem. But it could work to have Two-Face. Obviously they wouldn't have Two-Face running free and Batman still taking blame for the murders, but if Two-Face doesn't escape until the second half of the next movie, it could work.

Nah, I don't buy it. Too many holes.

Originally posted by TheVapor
Before he actually becomes Two-face he leaves the boundaries of being the guy that fights villains fairly[when he had the Joker henchmen tied up and threatened to kill him [although he had transformed that far yet]]. At the end of Dark Knight he is confused, half of him wants to take down the police because of what they've done, and half wants to still take down evil-doers like Maroni and Joker. He accepts the whole chaos thing, and so if he is alive we could see him doing a lot of coin flipping in the next movie to decide whether he does the 'good' thing or 'bad' thing.

Nah, he's bad at the end. He's at the point of killing Gordon's kid before Batman steps in. There's no going back. Plus, the ol' memorial.

Originally posted by TheVapor
As for him having half of his face, he could, like I said, stay in the shadows, or better yet, cover his face. i don't think it would be too outlandish for him to do.

Haha, nope. Both of those options would be incredibly weak and unreliable for a Nolan movie.

Originally posted by TheVapor
And finally with Nolan recasting the Joker, I misheard the report apparently as he only 'doesn't know' what he's going to do at all for the next film yet; http://www.movieweb.com/news/18/29618.php

apparently this is where all of the Riddler hype came from.

Aha, just as I thought.

*smug face*

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Nah, I don't buy it. Too many holes.

lol. Of course there is too many holes right now, but a 2 and a half hour movie could fill those holes.

Originally posted by Myth
lol. Of course there is too many holes right now, but a 2 and a half hour movie could fill those holes.

Haha, I don't think you understand. I was commenting on your premise; if your premise has so many holes in it, trying to cover them in a movie is just going to make it contrived. Nolan's previous 2 Batman films haven't been like that, so why the stupid face now?

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Haha, I don't think you understand. I was commenting on your premise; if your premise has so many holes in it

I'm sorry I left holes in my set up, did you want me to write an entire screenplay for you to see it could work? 🙄

I really hope they don't put in the Riddler, he's a 2nd rate Batman villain. He is not good enough to take on the bat, he's good as a back up villain to the major bad guy. Joker, Hush and Bane are the only two that are good enough to get at the bat.

Originally posted by Myth
I'm sorry I left holes in my set up, did you want me to write an entire screenplay for you to see it could work? 🙄

What are you talking about, silly boy? Your premise is contrived, so it simply wouldn't work. Whether you provided a full screenplay or not, a shit idea is still a shit idea.

Oh please, you aren't one to be critiquing anything anyone says.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
What are you talking about, silly boy? Your premise is contrived, so it simply wouldn't work. Whether you provided a full screenplay or not, a shit idea is still a shit idea.

Somebody thinks highly of himself.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
True enough, I guess...

But I'm really sick of the more popular villains (except Joker and Two-Face, my two favorites)... We see them all the time... Let's get other villains in there!

but i want riddler more 😬

No reaper

The new villian should be

Spoiler:
batzarro

....dammit it wont get rid of that link.... and make it non transparent.

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
I hated the Riddler in the old movies but I think Nolan could make it awesome.

could be cool😂

Those are real good! 👆

I would change the title to:

Worlds Greatest Detective.

I still go with The Riddler and Catwoman.

Catwoman as the love interest.

The Riddler as the man that can challenge Batmans detective skills.

We've seen that Ra challenge Batman physically. Scarecrow challenge him psychologically. The Joker challenge him trying into making him a criminal.

I think that's how Nolan is gonna go.

Originally posted by Da Joker
Oh please, you aren't one to be critiquing anything anyone says.

Yes, I am. Don't you see, my last few posts have been critiques.

Originally posted by Myth
Somebody thinks highly of himself.

If the cap fits...

Originally posted by Myth
Ya Krunk - Two-Face could be alive and locked up. Once he gets out, then it would have to be a time when Batman is back on the good side of the citizens of Gothem. But it could work to have Two-Face. Obviously they wouldn't have Two-Face running free and Batman still taking blame for the murders, but if Two-Face doesn't escape until the second half of the next movie, it could work.

Sounds good..

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Those are real good! 👆

I would change the title to:

[b]Worlds Greatest Detective.

I still go with The Riddler and Catwoman.

Catwoman as the love interest.

The Riddler as the man that can challenge Batmans detective skills.

We've seen that Ra challenge Batman physically. Scarecrow challenge him psychologically. The Joker challenge him trying into making him a criminal.

I think that's how Nolan is gonna go. [/B]

Interesting that could work truly work