Originally posted by Kazenji
Theres some crap about Coleman Reese (The guy who threatened to Black mail Lucius Fox) being the Riddler or even possibly Mr Freeze
Interesting, but I doubt Chris Nolan wants people people to remember Catwoman and how that was all changed and had nothing to do with Batman..
Reese was a good character but he served his purpose in The Dark Knight
Originally posted by Kazenji
Theres some crap about Coleman Reese (The guy who threatened to Black mail Lucius Fox) being the Riddler or even possibly Mr Freeze
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Interesting, but I doubt Chris Nolan wants people people to remember Catwoman and how that was all changed and had nothing to do with Batman..Reese was a good character but he served his purpose in The Dark Knight
Re: Batman 3's Villain will be Baaaaane!
Originally posted by Starscream M
Here is why:1. No penguin....danny devito's penguin was iconic, Nolan won't touch it...also penguin isn't intimidating enough for bale batman
2. no clayface/Mr. Freeze...either requires too much suspension of belief and special effects...not Nolan's style. Nolan prefers gritty realistic villains.
3. no Catwoman...at least as a villain. it seems contrived to have a catwoman in the nolan batman canon, what with no mention of Selina in the 2 movies so far.
4. no two-face...as the only villain. Two-face simply can't carry a movie, also two-face wasn't really even a villain in the dark knight.
5. no joker...for obvious reasons
6. no riddler...too silly, too similar to joker's style of mental games...too wacky to fit in Nolan's batuniverse
7. No rha's al ghul...I just didn't like his portrayal by Nesson.
What Nolan prefers in villain is someone who is intimidating but also believable and realistic. That removes out clowns like scarface, mad hatter, killer croc and the other two bits.
Also, NO villain can mentally torture batman like the Joker. So the nxt villain has to PHYSICALLY beat the Batman.
And that brings us to Bane!
Bane is the perfect Nolan villain. He's smart, he's powerful, intimidating and he's new. He has an interesting but unwacky backstory, his intent to rule Gotham makes an interesting plotline, and him fighting with batman will deliver a new level of action excitement to the batman movie. So I say Bane should be the next major villain.
Um jeeze, a guy that pumps venom into hi vanes to get super strong, and wears a wrestling out fit isn't too much suspension of disablief?
In a nolan batman I would expect to see:
Poison Ivy: a psycopath chick who likes to poison men
Riddler: your classic naracistic criminal that wants to be caught
Mr. Freeze: A guy with a liquid nitrogen gun freezing people for kicks
Very interesting. I agree with you on all of them actually, But I do agree with some that Penguin should be in it, not as the main villain gods no, but he should be in it. I personally wouldnt mind putting Ragdoll in. He's a personal favorite of mine and goes great with Catwoman.
I dont know. It's hard to beat the perfect villain duo of Jokerxtwoface.
what/who could possibly trump them?!
Originally posted by Off-kilter
I dont know. It's hard to beat the perfect villain duo of Jokerxtwoface.
what/who could possibly trump them?!
Quote for Christopher Nolan himself regarding Batman 3:
"Well ... let me think how to put this. There are two things to be said. One is the emphasis on story. What’s the story? Is there a story that’s going to keep me emotionally invested for the couple of years that it will take to make another one? That’s the overriding question. On a more superficial level, I have to ask the question: How many good third movies in a franchise can people name? [Laughs.] At the same time, in taking on the second one, we had the challenge of trying to make a great second movie, and there haven't been too many of those either. It’s all about the story really. If the story is there, everything is possible. I hope that was a suitably slippery answer."
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Nothing.
Granted, Batman 3 will be pretty great if done right and all that, but it won't surpass TDK, I can tell you that much.Quote for Christopher Nolan himself regarding Batman 3:
"Well ... let me think how to put this. There are two things to be said. One is the emphasis on story. What’s the story? Is there a story that’s going to keep me emotionally invested for the couple of years that it will take to make another one? That’s the overriding question. On a more superficial level, I have to ask the question: How many good third movies in a franchise can people name? [Laughs.] At the same time, in taking on the second one, we had the challenge of trying to make a great second movie, and there haven't been too many of those either. It’s all about the story really. If the story is there, everything is possible. I hope that was a suitably slippery answer."
Agreed, as good as TDK is, there is no possible way that they can outdo themselves
As for what Nolan said about good third movies, well most of the time
1.The original creator is no longer involved, just an emotionally unattached guy getting paid.
2.The Studios get greedy and spend less on the movie, and more in advertising the movie.
If Nolan sticks with us for a third, and if WB execs. avoid the mistake made in #2 then B3 should be the best 3rd movie to be made.
As for villains I think that there should be one classic villain [ex. Riddler], and one that hasn't been in a movie before [ex. Reaper, Clayface, Hush]. The villains could either work together, or a three-way could ensue between them and Batman.
Also maybe villains in cameos or in small role like Penguin as has been mentioned.
Originally posted by TheVapor
As for villains I think that there should be one classic villain [ex. Riddler], and one that hasn't been in a movie before [ex. Reaper, Clayface, Hush]. The villains could either work together, or a three-way could ensue between them and Batman.Also maybe villains in cameos or in small role like Penguin as has been mentioned.
I could accept that... Riddler/Black Mask, Riddler/Reaper, Catwoman/Black Mask, Catwoman/Reaper, etc. all sound all right...
Just as long as it's not Riddler/Catwoman, which no doubt the studio execs are pushing for...
Originally posted by Harvey Two-FacePenguin is highly unlikely but the Riddler is not, word around the circuit is that Riddler will be the next villain and it's rumored they're trying to get Johnny Depp for the role. It is correct that Nolan wants believable characters and the Riddler is just that. Try reading the Hush books, Riddler was the mastermind behind the whole thing. Now where it concerns the Joker, anybody can play a good Joker you just have to either indulge in a lot of messed up imagery or be on the brink of suicide like Ledger. Or the third option is to get a good actor who fits the Joker perfectly, i.e. Adrian Brody, with his hook nose and hair that hangs down in his face, he even has the right body type to play the role, Joker is tall and lanky and Ledger was not that; Besides Brody is a far superior actor than Ledger could have ever imagined being and don't give me that crap about him being the Joker because one good role is not enough to redeem a person of an entire career based on crap roles.
All of his reasons are invalid & as much as I'd love to see Bane, I don't see it happening. Btw, DeVito's Penguin sucked & isn't iconic. That statement itself is laughable as is the comment that Two-Face can't carry a movie by himself. This guy is a joke, people. A five year old could probably come up with better reasons.
Originally posted by hush77hushNolan has already plainly stated that he does not want robin in the Batman films but if he did put him in there he should have where the Joker beats him to death with a pipe.
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this is not to bad if what i here is that Johny Depp is to play him.
you could'nt have Hush yet as part of his story is robin (Jason Todd) so no robin no Hush well that how i see it anyway.lol
i think if he wanted to he could do Mr. Freeze that wouldn't be a problem...they would have to change some stuff for the sake of the movie...and he would probably carry a freeze gun hooked up to Liquid Nitrogen...soo do no i don't think they would make a Mr. Freeze but they could and keep it realistic...Bane I guess but idk maybe if he was just like one of the worlds strongest men gone mad but as for the drugs i don't think that would be realistic enough for him....I say maybe Scare Face would be a possibility idk though...personally I would Like it to be bane so batman could show he can handle ppl tougher then himself...he has shown smarts and fighting ability in the other to so why not portray an angle of him fighting someone who would beat the crap out of him and how he could use the fighting abilty and smarts on someone like that.
I personally feel the ending of dark knight makes it perfect for Bane to be the next villain
remember dark knight ended with Batman running from the cops
I can see that Bane would come and run amoc Gotham city to take the opportunity of law enforcement fighting batman
Bane will try to usurp Gotham from batman...can't you just picture Bane screaming "I will break the BAT....and Gotham will be MIIIINE!!!"
Originally posted by Starscream M
I personally feel the ending of dark knight makes it perfect for Bane to be the next villainremember dark knight ended with Batman running from the cops
I can see that Bane would come and run amoc Gotham city to take the opportunity of law enforcement fighting batman
Bane will try to usurp Gotham from batman...can't you just picture Bane screaming "I will break the BAT....and Gotham will be MIIIINE!!!"
Bane is great for the comics, but for another film version of Bane, right now I cannot see it.. Also he would be way easily defeated..
Originally posted by AC/DC'S_LVR
i dont really think so because in my mind, that kinda thing isnt really tangible, the whole Bane thing seems a little too fantasy/cartoon/comic books to me which is why i think they should find another Joker and add in Harley Quinn with another, lesser used Bat-villian
I cannot see another actor portray The Joker the way that Ledger did.. Besides unless Chris Nolan goes back on his word. he is not going to recast The Joker at all