Batman w/ GL ring VS Hal Jordan

Started by xmarksthespot3 pages

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Exactly. The problems he displayed in trying to use the ring had nothing to do with willpower, but with his refusal to let go of the night his parents died.
I'm pretty sure that's what Raoul meant in the first place. He's just not as eloquent as me. It's the Irish... peaches
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That also doesn't eliminate the necessity for a certain "kind" of will power it seems to be a good GL as shown by Sinestro's comments to Ollie etc. regardless of whether one considers Batman to have it. Which is pretty much what some people are probably trying to dismiss so that self-surgery = best GL EVARRHEH.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Im not being a smart-ass. It seems to me that the people you are debating with have read material needed for this debate but you still told somebody to do some more reading.

i don't doubt EL's reading of green lantern at all...

You're also telling people that they don't understand what you're saying when it seems they do, they just don't agree. Its some food for thought.

not really...

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
When did I ever said that you were underestimating it ? But since we're talking about this, like I said, the 'doesn't have the type of willpower required to be a GL' can be interpreted as Batman's willpower not being good enough for him to be a GL, which is wrong.

In fact, the instance you're reffering from when Batman willingly gave up the ring, doesn't really have anything to do with willpower, but with Bruce simply not wanting to put that night where his parents died behind him.

Bruce has the willpower to be a Green Lantern. Period.

if he's willing to put his parents death behind him and move on, yes. until he does, his will, will be far too cynical to use the ring, imo...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm pretty sure that's what Raoul meant in the first place. He's just not as eloquent as me. It's the Irish... peaches

yet you can't stay away...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm pretty sure that's what Raoul meant in the first place. He's just not as eloquent as me. It's the Irish... peaches

Yeah, most likely. But the 'doesn't have the type of willpower' made it seem like he said the difficulties he posed when using the GL ring were due to insufficient willpower, and not the 'getting over that night'-related.

Anyway, I think a page of this discussion is enough 😐