Originally posted by chithappens
Yes, but that's not the same thing. The door would have to be ajar for anyone to just notice something like that.
The door being open wouldn't make it not a crime, would it?
Still though, the door wouldn't be open, a better analogy to the decoy having a description of "14/F/Ca" would be the door lock in the open position.
Originally posted by Robtard
I've seen many episodes, the majority of the men are that sexually blunt. You're also avoiding that the men busted on the show physically show up at the house, another key point.The funny thing, if they had keep it to just sexual chatting and didn't show up (or send explicit material) but just masturbated while chatting, they wouldn't have been busted.
I remember one episode where a female cop in her 30's posed as a teenage girl on the phone. She was the pushy one and even used the word "cock". He showed up wearing nothing but a towel, and had priceless look on his face, when he saw that the same voice was coming from a uniformed cop pointing a gun at him.
That's kinda rough ground to tread because then you are talking semantics. I doubt everyone is that blunt in their sexual conversation initially.
Or something.
Originally posted by Da Joker
My thing is, you can think what you want. If it was truly a crime, why would God allow you to be able to think it?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
That does not answer my question.
"Interesting, that was quicker than the others."
-Architect
*Yes, I know you question is not a direct quote...but it's close enough.
Originally posted by chithappens
"Gotcha *****!"
LOL, Dave Chapelle.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A 14 year old girl is not a woman.Therefore Jesus must be pro-pedo hmm
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why am I laughing?
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Whirlysock = fail.
Nope.
On topic-
I don't like the show. I don't watch it. I don't watch "TV". I watch only movies, tv from the internet, and other stuff...but never what you guys would call normal regular "TV".
chit, I think I get what you were saying
Its like the car robbery stings where cops leave really nice cars with expensive electronics in the back seat in really rough neighborhoods and wait to arrest who ever breaks in.
However, given that a 14 year old is not allowed to give consent to have sex with an older man, it doesn't matter if she was begging for it. Consent and entrapment don't work in this case, simply because the man can be guilty for being lured in.
I don't think the show works like that, but a child molester isn't going to get away with it if their lawyer can prove the kid wanted it.
Unlike the car situation however, I don't feel it would cause an otherwise law abiding person to do something criminal. A poor person going through a rough time can be, maybe not excused, but understood and at least forgiven for theft, there is no instance where an adult can engage in sexual activity with a minor and it be understandable in that way.
Originally posted by Syren
These people (the pedophiles) should be humiliated, why is it be immoral to 'sting' them?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Of course you could ask the same thing about sex with minors.
"Minors should be humiliated, why is immoral to have sex with them?"
No, I don't think that works.
Originally posted by inimalist
why is it immoral to show someone at their lowest point on television for the ammusment of other people at their desperate situation?I mean, there are eppisodes where the pedophiles get on their knees and beg for forgiveness.
I'm not asking for sympathy for these people, it is, however, important to remember the "people" part of that, and, you know, maybe not take delight in someones life being ruined forever, even if it is their own fault?
I'm sorry if this offends you, but pedophiles **** children. I can't bring myself to remember that pedophiles are people because I'm too busy concentrating on the fact that children are children.
The pedophiles should get on their knees and beg for forgiveness. Do you really think they mean it? Most of them defend their actions and sugar coat their behaviour with the 'free love' angle, spewing about love being beautiful. It's disgusting and to be quite frank, I do enjoy seeing them squirm. I don't think shows like this are extreme enough, personally.
I apologise for taking delight in a pervert's life being ruined. But let's not forget that they've probably molested or raped a fair few children and quite possibly ruined their lives.
You have far too much sympathy for people in this 'desperate situation'. It's people like you who allow the filth to recreate their pathetic lives under a different name altogether. That's justice for you.
Originally posted by inimalist
chit, I think I get what you were sayingIts like the car robbery stings where cops leave really nice cars with expensive electronics in the back seat in really rough neighborhoods and wait to arrest who ever breaks in.
However, given that a 14 year old is not allowed to give consent to have sex with an older man, it doesn't matter if she was begging for it. Consent and entrapment don't work in this case, simply because the man can be guilty for being lured in.
I don't think the show works like that, but a child molester isn't going to get away with it if their lawyer can prove the kid wanted it.
Unlike the car situation however, I don't feel it would cause an otherwise law abiding person to do something criminal. A poor person going through a rough time can be, maybe not excused, but understood and at least forgiven for theft, there is no instance where an adult can engage in sexual activity with a minor and it be understandable in that way.
Something like that. The car situation is different because not just anyone would check to see if a car was locked. You more than likely are in a tight spot. It is a sort of bait but that is not the same thing because you not being constantly nurtured into thoughts of security.
With the Dateline show, you are constantly dangling the carrot in front of the rabbit. And I know what they say about the show, the man always starts the sexual conversation, but I highly doubt it is like that every time. Again, sexual innuendo is not always as blunt a cock, ****, BJ, and so on. It even be metaphorical. The way the "professional" is talking, you might beat it at the PC screen. We don't know what was said. Regardless, no excuse for going over there.
Now the thing is the guys are looking for teenage girls to have sex with more than likely. Let's say for a moment this is not on the show but an actual situation: The girl has to allow him to talk to her like that, give him an address, and LET THE MAN IN THE HOUSE. It does not take a pint of common sense to see why that is questionable. So suddenly when the girl turns 18 she gains all sorts of wisdom that was before liked in this "post-18" box. I understand she can't legally consent, but there has to be some fault that goes to the lack of judgment. And that lack of judgment is then also shared with the parents.
It is not all the man or all the girl or all the parent. It is a shared fault. "He is supposed to know better" does not mean a damn thing. People are people. People do not mature like wine. Yeah a grown man should ignore a teenage girl, but turning 18 does not mean it is now somehow morally ok because her mind suddenly blossomed.
I'm not for a man taking advantage of teenage girls, but to say it is completely the fault of the man is ludicrous in a real situation.