Cyclops versus Han Solo

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I was just thinking that too.

Han is pretty damn fast and accurate as hell, he displays this when shooting at Vader.

You think of your own line of arguments from now on, mister mhm

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I was just thinking that too.

Han is pretty damn fast and accurate as hell, he displays this when shooting at Vader.

Han is a quickdraw, but the Vader scene does not prove his accuracy, Vader was just across the table.

Either way, I don't think either man would necessarily miss, so it comes down to who shoots first. Scott has the advantage there.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You think of your own line of arguments from now on, mister mhm

edit: Was late. haermm

Originally posted by Robtard
The concussive blast come from his body/eyes, not the visor.

Yes, but the Visor is there to stop it. I don't see why Cyclops should have the power to bypass that if he chooses (at least in the Comics he can't for sure, though, I believe he might have a fancy visor that opens with his mind or through another mechanism, not in the movies so).

Anyways, I am not sure how it is in the movies, if what you say is right then Scott. If not, I'd tend to give it to Han, though I would say it is a close one.

Scott doesn't have to manually activate his visor to fire his blasts. He has never had to. The movie adaptation had Cyclops put his hand to his visor simply to adjust the rate of fire, if you will.

Originally posted by Impediment
Scott doesn't have to manually activate his visor to fire his blasts. He has never had to. The movie adaptation had Cyclops put his hand to his visor simply to adjust the rate of fire, if you will.

Do you have proof of that?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, but the Visor is there to stop it. I don't see why Cyclops should have the power to bypass that if he chooses (at least in the Comics he can't for sure, though, I believe he might have a fancy visor that opens with his mind or through another mechanism, not in the movies so).

Anyways, I am not sure how it is in the movies, if what you say is right then Scott for sure. If not, I'd tend to give it to Han, though I would say it is a close one.

I can agree with that. I'm fairly certain he fires in the movies without touching the visor though, if not it would be close.

It comes down to a matter of how long would it take Scott to lift his hand to the visor vs. how long it takes Solo to grab and draw the pistol.

I say Scott has a slight advantage time-wise here.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Do you have proof of that?

Originally posted by Robtard
I can agree with that. I'm fairly certain he fires in the movies without touching the visor though, if not it would be close.

It comes down to a matter of how long would it take Scott to lift his hand to the visor vs. how long it takes Solo to grab and draw the pistol.

I say Scott has a slight advantage time-wise here.

I can't quite decide, but the thing that was the deciding factor for me was that Cyclops is a douche.

I can't find anything.

Still, I'm of the opinion that Cyclops has aiming superiority since his weapon is, in fact, his eyes.

Originally posted by Impediment
I can't find anything.

Still, I'm of the opinion that Cyclops has aiming superiority since his weapon is, in fact, his eyes.

I agree, I just don't think it will matter much, cause Han is a very good shot, so if he was able to draw first he'd take it by a large margin even though he might miss in some cases.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I can't quite decide, but the thing that was the deciding factor for me was that Cyclops is a douche.

I agree, I'd rather have a beer with Solo any day of the week before I had one with Scott. But raising your hand to your head is faster (10ths of a second) than grabbing and drawing a pistol.

Also, Scott never misses (aim) as Imp pointed out, 'his eyes are the weapons', so unless Solo is a master dodger, Scott has the aim advantage too.

Cognitive thought is faster than cognitive thought+movement.

Originally posted by Impediment
Cognitive thought is faster than cognitive thought+movement.

Well, we aren't 100% on that being how Cyclops shoots, are we?

And Han is appears faster to me.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, we aren't 100% on that being how Cyclops shoots, are we?

And Han is appears faster to me.

Going on the grounds that Scott has to touch the visor, which do you think takes more time?

A) Raising your hand to your temple.
B) Drawing a pistol

This is also doing away with the fact that Solo has to aim the pistol too while Scott is basically pre-aimed.

Okay, I'll concede to the movie premise that Scott has to raise his hand to his visor to fire.

However, I agree with Rob. Raising your hand to your temple and looking to fire at an object is more convenient than drawing a blaster, aiming, and firing.

Go back and watch ESB, where Han draws on Vader. It is done in the blink of an eye, Han is totally surprised, and every shot was a kill shot.

Originally posted by Robtard
Going on the grounds that Scott has to touch the visor, which do you think takes more time?

A) Raising your hand to your temple.
B) Drawing a pistol

This is also doing away with the fact that Solo has to aim the pistol too while Scott is basically pre-aimed.

I just think that Han could draw and shoot before Scott could get his hand to his temple. At least if they were to stand in a normal position with their arms hanging from their sides.

I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the visor is there so Scott can control his optic blast.

It has no effect on whether or not he can shoot.