Cyclops versus Han Solo

Started by Bardock4210 pages

Originally posted by Röland
I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the visor is there so Scott can control his optic blast.

It has no effect on whether or not he can shoot.

I am not sure how that would work.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I just think that Han could draw and shoot before Scott could get his hand to his temple. At least if they were to stand in a normal position with their arms hanging from their sides.
Not to mention Han can fire from the hip.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am not sure how that would work.

I meant "control" as in to not let his power run wild.

Originally posted by Röland
I meant "control" as in to not let his power run wild.

I think Cyclops shoots constantly as long as his eyes are open. The red sunglasses stop that as well as the visor. He can operate the visor though to shoot controlled blasts (needs to touch it though).

That's my take anyways.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think Cyclops shoots constantly as long as his eyes are open. The red sunglasses stop that as well as the visor. He can operate the visor though to shoot controlled blasts (needs to touch it though).

That's what I was trying to convey but I was unsure on what the visor actually did as far as letting him use his powers.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not to mention Han can fire from the hip.

Which would gimp him aim considerably.

Also, is the the scene you were mentioning before?

YouTube video
1:37 of this one:
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Either of those scenes, Han isn't super-quick as you made him out to be.

In the comics, Cyclops can fire his blasts at will. No hand-to-visor movement.

In the movies, for the sake of realism, I guess, Cyclops was made to put his hand to his visor to physically release a burst of optic energy.

Originally posted by Robtard
Also, is the the scene you were mentioning before?

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I had to watch that twice to see that it was edited. lol.

Originally posted by Röland
I meant "control" as in to not let his power run wild.

You are correct.

The visor is made of a ruby quartz because that can block his optic powers. Scot suffered a brain injury which makes his eyes constantly pour out the optic blast. His visor has a shutter on it. Scott fires his shots by pressing a release button on either side of the visor which allows his optic blast to basically bleed through the visor.

That being said, I could have sworn that he had a trigger in his glove and later in the comics, they bypassed the problem of brain damage by hooking up the visor to work with his brain.

In the movie, scott has to fire with his hands.

It doesn't look like his has that thumb trigger or the visor that works off his thoughts. No where in the movie does he fire without touching his visor, except when he removed his glasses at the lake while morning Jean.

One scene in particular is both a positive and negative for Scott. He shoots hella accurate and fast in this scene, but again, he has to touch his visor. Start at about 14 seconds.

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In the comics, Scott has this uncanny ability to bend his beam all sorts of complicated ways to his his target. Very cool. He also has martial arts training. He is pretty damn smart too.

In this scenario that RJ setup, I can see it going either way, equally. Han is pretty damn fast an accurate with a blaster. Since he is anticipating Cyclops, he's not going to be a douche and wait to draw his gun. Being a scoundrel, he'll probably have it drawn already waiting. But then again, Scott may anticipate that because he is a tactician. Scott may scope out the place first and figure a way to take out Han via a deflection of his optic blast.

In my opinion, this is a great match up. It is hard to tell.

Originally posted by Röland
I had to watch that twice to see that it was edited. lol.

It looked like it, so I posted another just in case. Either way, Han is drawing and firing in the "blink of an eye".

Originally posted by Robtard
Which would gimp him aim considerably.

Also, is the the scene you were mentioning before?

YouTube video

WTF is that? You know what scene I am talking about haermm

Yeah, that scene, BUT the real version.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
WTF is that? You know what scene I am talking about haermm

Yeah, that scene, BUT the real version.

I posted another that wasn't edited (look above), in either scene. Han isn't drawing the pistol as fast as you implied he did.

Originally posted by Robtard
It looked like it, so I posted another just in case. Either way, Han is drawing and firing in the "blink of an eye".

I see your point, I was just laughing because of Vader shooting.

But yes, Han doesn't draw "in the blink of an eye".

Originally posted by Robtard
Which would gimp him aim considerably.

Also, is the the scene you were mentioning before?

YouTube video
1:37 of this one:
YouTube video

Either of those scenes, Han isn't super-quick as you made him out to be.

Weird, I was actually watching that same vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7KkFcyOklg

haermm

Han was taken by surprise, he needed a split second to realize his friend had betrayed him. Once he realized the danger and acted, yes, he is that fast.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Weird, I was actually watching that same vid.

Han was taken by surprise, he needed a split second to realize his friend had betrayed him. Once he realized the danger and acted, yes, he is that fast.

I'm talking about his hand movement, he doesn't draw and fire the gun all that fast.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm talking about his hand movement, he doesn't draw and fire the gun all that fast.
I dont use the term "in the blink of an eye" literally. But he does it faster than Scott would be able to raise his hand to his visor, aim and fire.

"M-my post."

Originally posted by dadudemon
"M-my post."
Wasn't that great.

as much as i loathe movie scott, he should take this one imo...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Wasn't that great.

Did you notice that I quoted you? Hmmm?