Cyclops versus Han Solo

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Cykes doesnt walk in ready to fire, read the opening post, Solo spots him first. Cykes knows Solo is somewhere in the Cantina, and as usual wont harm an innocent, so he is not just gonna open fire when he sees Han.
He tracks Solo down to a cantina on Tattooine.

Solo, aware of Cyclop's intentions, draws his Blastech DL44 and opens fire.....

So you're making another topic where the situation greatly favours someone over the other The one you want to win at that... 😕

EDIT: Hahaha! Placidity noticed it too! The gimping has started!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Cykes doesnt walk in ready to fire, read the opening post, Solo spots him first. Cykes knows Solo is somewhere in the Cantina, and as usual wont harm an innocent, so he is not just gonna open fire when he sees Han.

He tracks Solo down to a cantina on Tattooine.

Solo, aware of Cyclop's intentions, draws his Blastech DL44 and opens fire.....

Are we gonna start gimping again?? Hahaha, for one, if you've watched any of the X-Men movies you'd know it's not like Cyclops to enter anything(!) without being ready. Also what's the point of Han already knowing he's there. Since you stated that Han spots Cyclops first, what's the point of even making a Vs. thread? If Han spots him first, then Cyclops is dead...

If you are in a cantina and I walk in, who is likely to spot who first? The person entering, or the person already there, amongst the crowd? It's common sense.

Then by all means RJ, how does Cyclops stand a chance then??

Han is LIKELY to spot Cykes first, it's not a given, man. And it's not a guarantee that Han's first shot would find it's mark, is it? Han is a deadeye, but even monkeys fall out of trees.

I thought Cykes walking up and saying "Lets go Solo" was a bit boring, to tell the truth.

If you dont like the opening scenario, it aint my problem.

How is it "likely", if Han opens fire? Why would he open fire if he doesn't know where Cyclops is? Is he just randomly firing at nothing? You said he opens fire with his blaster.

And the chances of Han missing in the close proximity of a Cantina are far and few between. If Han fires first then he'll win, at the least, 7/10 times.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
How is it "likely", if Han opens fire? Why would he open fire if he doesn't know where Cyclops is? Is he just randomly firing at nothing? You said he opens fire with his blaster.

And the chances of Han missing in the close proximity of a Cantina are far and few between. If Han fires first then he'll win, at the least, 7/10 times.

Han's good, if he spots Cyclops first, he'll most likely shoot at him and......ya know....not miss...

How does that work? He most likely won't shoot him, or he might. What?!

Originally posted by Scythe
Han's good, if he spots Cyclops first, he'll most likely shoot at him and......ya know....not miss...

How does that work? He most likely won't shoot him, or he might. What?!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You're not even trying anymore, are you?

Nah, you just fail to make sense. I'm trying to understand how you're saying Han spots Cyclops first and doesn't kill him since he's 'oh so very lightning fast'. I doubt Han cares if anyone gets caught in the crossfire, so he'd shoot first, and since he has the advantage of spotting Cyclops first, he'd shoot and kill.

Then you're saying that he'd likely miss and something about monkeys falling off trees, so it's all very confusing and stupid.

If Han sees Cyclops first, Cyclops is dead, so then why make this thread? Cyclops wouldn't hurt the other people inside so he'd try to hide, since Han is an excellent shot, he'd die. Another one-sided battle brought to you by RJ.

Maybe if things were like a draw like so many of us thought, then Cyclops might have a chance, but in this fight, Han has the upper hand the entire time. You're pitting a man unholstering his gun and shooting at a man vs. entering the building, looking around, finally spotting Han and raising his hand to his visor. Yeah... Why god...why...?

Originally posted by Scythe
Nah, you just fail to make sense. I'm trying to understand how you're saying Han spots Cyclops first and doesn't kill him since he's 'oh so very lightning fast'. I doubt Han cares if anyone gets caught in the crossfire, so he'd shoot first, and since he has the advantage of spotting Cyclops first, he'd shoot and kill.

Then you're saying that he'd likely miss and something about monkeys falling off trees, so it's all very confusing and stupid.

If Han sees Cyclops first, Cyclops is dead, so then why make this thread? Cyclops wouldn't hurt the other people inside so he'd try to hide, since Han is an excellent shot, he'd die. Another one-sided battle brought to you by RJ.

Maybe if things were like a draw like so many of us thought, then Cyclops might have a chance, but in this fight, Han has the upper hand the entire time. You're pitting a man unholstering his gun and shooting at a man vs. entering the building, looking around, finally spotting Han and raising his hand to his visor. Yeah... Why god...why...?

If you were on the run from bounty hunters, wouldn't you be a bit more observant than the average Joe? If you were in a cantina having a drink, wouldnt you have your eye on every Tom Dick and Harry that walked in?

If Cykes is an intergalactic bounty hunter, I am sure Han will at least have an idea what he looks like.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am using basic human behavioral patterns.

If you were on the run from bounty hunters, wouldn't you be a bit more observant than the average Joe? If you were in a cantina having a drink, wouldnt you have your eye on every Tom Dick and Harry that walked in?

If Cykes is an intergalactic bounty hunter, I am sure Han will at least have an idea what he looks like.

I'm not sure what you're going on about. I hope you realize that I know, and understand that Han sees Cyclops first. I'm not arguing that Han would never recognize Cyclops. Han is forced to recognize Cyclops since you simply stated that he spots Cyclops first.

My argument is why create this thread when Han sees Cyclops first? It's pretty much checkmate since Han sees him already and Cyclops doesn't.

Originally posted by Scythe
I'm not sure what you're going on about. I hope you realize that I know, and understand that Han sees Cyclops first. I'm not arguing that Han would never recognize Cyclops. Han is forced to recognize Cyclops since you simply stated that he spots Cyclops first.

My argument is why create this thread when Han sees Cyclops first? It's pretty much checkmate since Han sees him already and Cyclops doesn't.

You didnt answer my question about what if it were you on the run, what it would do to your sense of awareness, and of others around you.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am arguing that Han will see him first in all probability, since HE is on the run and has his eye on everyone coming and going.

You didnt answer my question about what if it were you on the run, what it would do to your sense of awareness, and of others around you.

I don't see how that question has any relevence to this thread. Personally if you ask me, and I was a wanted man, I'd turn myself in to the proper authorities. I'd certainly not go to a damn cantina...

Originally posted by Scythe
I don't see how that question has any relevence to this thread. Personally if you ask me, and I was a wanted man, I'd turn myself in to the proper authorities. I'd certainly not go to a damn cantina...

It's relevant because it's about the mindset of one of the combatants, do I need to get you some flash cards or spell it out for you?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Thats what I knew you'd say, but I had to ask.

It's relevant because it's about the mindset of one of the combatants, do I need to get you some flash cards or spell it out for you?

I'm flattered for the offer to have you purchase me some flash cards or draw me a picture, but no thank you.

I think your intent is to get one to achieve your desired thought at the moment. Which is strange, since I'm not saying Han would never see Cyclops. It is common nature for stupid criminals to be jumpy and on the run, so I hope that's served you some purpose. Han sees Cyclops first, I've agreed to that since you stated it in the beginning but my question is, why have this thread when Han will most definitly win due to his massive advantage you've given him?

Originally posted by Scythe
I'm flattered for the offer to have you purchase me some flash cards or draw me a picture, but no thank you.

I think your intent is to get one to achieve your desired thought at the moment. Which is strange, since I'm not saying Han would never see Cyclops. It is common nature for stupid criminals to be jumpy and on the run, so I hope that's served you some purpose. Han sees Cyclops first, I've agreed to that since you stated it in the beginning but my question is, why have this thread when Han will most definitly win due to his massive advantage you've given him?

Also, you mentioned before you would turn yourself in. To a crime lord who wants you dead?

Do they fight in Character?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So now Han is a stupid criminal? Coke came outta my nose when I read that, seriously, it did.

Also, you mentioned before you would turn yourself in. To a crime lord who wants you dead?

I never said Han is a stupid criminal. Please don't assume things in your mind. I said it's common nature that stupid criminals run and are jumpy in regard to your post that you stated what would I do. Han is a smuggler, but in this scene, he's clearly taking up common nature that criminals on the run would gradually assume.

Yes, I don't fear death, I'd turn myself in to a crime lord, you asked, and that's my honest answer. What's the point of fleeing?

Originally posted by Scythe
I never said Han is a stupid criminal. Please don't assume things in your mind. I said it's common nature that stupid criminals run and are jumpy in regard to your post that you stated what would I do. Han is a smuggler, but in this scene, he's clearly taking up common nature that criminals on the run would gradually assume.

Yes, I don't fear death, I'd turn myself in to a crime lord, you asked, and that's my honest answer. What's the point of fleeing?