I know exactly what you meant...And I'm not the one who keeps bringing up fighting..I'm not talking about fighting at all...You are not me. Is that hard to understand? Why should I prove something I'm not even trying to?
😆 Im not trying to throw anything on you. I just asked for something simple. I asked you to show me superman fighting at a fast pace like the z warriors does but you keep talking about flight. I dont care about flight. Rogue can fly faster then black bolt but black bolt would still whip that ass. Firelord can fly faster then orion but orion would still tap that ass Show me some combat speed or stop talking about superman being able to keep up with goku.
When did I say combat?? I said Superman's level of speed...Gokou isn't anywhere near Superman when it comes to speed.
For some strange reason you keep having typos, let me help you. Superman isnt anywhere near gokus level of COMBAT speed.
There you go, can I get a thanks.
No this is who is more powerful than Broli that you like bringing up how Superman fights so much slower because he doesn't fight like Z fighters...
He dont..... Krillin has more amazing combat speed feats then superman does. For superman to be so fast he sure as hell get crushed by a lot of bricks. His entire rogue gallery is nothing but bricks. I cant wait until they make his comics like the dbz comics since he has this amazing speed. Have him winking out everywhere throwing 100's of punches in a second and creating multiple of after images doing different things (LOL at that ever happening).
In a physical fight Surfer wouldn't loose 10/10 to Superman...Surfer can amp himself stronger, has taken stronger blows than Superman can dish out, and I think I remember Janus in the comic versus forms proving Surfer has combat speed on par with his speed..I'll have to try and find that later tonight.
Surfer would lose 10/10 against superman due to combat speed. The only thing that darth posted was surfer catching blast (which surfer does totally different then dbz characters), if you want to use that to say that surfer can keep up with superman then goku during the 2 tournament should be able to overwhelm him. I have been all through the silver surfer vs superman thread, you'll see my name all through there but I know that superman would physically crush surfer if it was a physical confrontation due to combat speed. He can amp himself but he'll be gone by then. for every lick that surfer would get superman would get 2 more. I love surfer and hes my favorite character but without the use of his powers superman would cream him.
They destroyed they small island by slamming each other into it..That's not much different than Superman/Marvel fight in JLU. And the top tiers in Marvel can destroy islands quite easy.
Show me them destroying a island the way that picollo and 17 did. Neither of there punches touched the island, it was the sheer force of the punches that was doing it. I want you to show me supermans most destructive fight. Not a space fight that end up on the ground, Im referring to superman being in a city or island, etc... where there is a lot of damage being caused. Hell ion and superman prime fight couldnt even destroy a cemetary.
I could have him doing any number of things effortlessly that Gokou does and you'll still say Gokou is faster yet not once is it ever stated how fast the Z fighters go.
Show me him doing this against a speedster and him actually hitting him then I'll believe you. Im quite sure youre going to put up a scan of superman creating a after image while fighting mongul who is a brick. Or youre going to post the doomsday fight when he defeated a weakened doomsday and was moving side to side avoiding punches from another brick who as a matter of fact was weakened. Show me something different. I want to see superman keeping up with speedster. You just told me that flash stated that superman was close to his speed so you should be able to show me superman winking out everywhere.
And Naruto, Yu Yu Hakusho, and all the fighting manga out there have people that move at speeds normal people can't see and then get blitzed by faster people, and everything Z fighters do.
No manga fight like dbz characters does. The only one that is close is Yu Yu and thats about it and even then, Yu Yu isnt even close to the speed that goku had after the frieza saga. Do you want to know something about Yu Yu though, he punched a thousand people out of orbit in the blink of an eye during the last tournament. I already said that Yu Yu should be able to whip Superman a** also. Hell, taguro would give superman a fight. Anyone can tell who is faster between goku and Yu Yu and who has the best combat speed.
The only way the Z fighters are proven to be faster are they can get around the Earth in minutes.
What does going around the earth has to do with combat speed and what reason would any dbz character need to go around the earth. When have they ever needed to rush for anything. Maybe you can help me.
Not their combat speed which slower people have the same feats doing but flight.
Show me spiderman punching someone 3 times in the blink of an eye. Show me spiderman disappearing for minutes in front of a crowds face. Show me spiderman spinning around in a circle, making himself a living tornado. Show me spiderman creating 6 after images doing different things. Show me spiderman performing 8 moves but the only thing that was seen was a drop kick by the audience. All of this is what kid goku has done or how about this, show me spiderman running 500 mps. Flight speed dont equal combat speed. Im going to continue to say this until you get it. Naah, I know what Im going to do, Im going to make a thread about this.
Z fighters have alot more durability than other fighting manga but most of their fighting combat feats can be mocked by a lot of others like disappearing from view of people who can move faster than humans can see.
Prove it, show me a manga creating after images and we know for a fact that its after images. Show someone slapping multiple and multiple of blast out of the air like it nothing. Show me someone standing in one spot and blast are being shot through them but it look like its connecting but the person is moving so fast that he appears to be standing still.
Flash I know of has at least one comic that lasts a a few seconds. And in that he beats a villain, saves the JLA, and builds a computer scroll that scrolls at light speed to read something on it. Flash is speed...it's his whole gimick. And even then you can't actually prove he's moving like in the anime because it's still images. All you have is his statements or his wife or whatever.
Flash is speed just like goku is speed but they just use there speed in different ways. Flash has done some things that goku have done in fights but I just want to see what reasons are in your head that is giving you the assumption that superman could even pose a threat to goku.
You'll have to wait for later tonight to get you a few instances of Superman moving faster than people can react...
You dont even need to post scans of superman moving faster then HUMANS can react because I know for a fact that its true, he is superman. I want you to show me him fighting a speedster and keeping up with him with them winking out everywhere like goku and cell. I can find a scan of spiderman moving faster then a human can react, thats not helping superman in any case. Post me a scan of a fight that is happening around humans or super humans and they arent able to see whats going on because the person and superman are moving to fast.
And yet...Those blasts he dodge aren't the same speed as the ones that destroyed the moon...
How do you know, are you basically saying that a weaker picollo blast>>>every blast that goku has dodged.
Kakashi was faster than lightning as a kid, he's gotten a lot faster since then. Kakashi must be a faster fighter than Superman then.
Kakashi isnt close to supermans speed but kakashi also has some amazing powers at his ability and some of the things that he does is unbelief and dont have anything to do with strength or speed. Sometimes its just skill.
How can I show Superman dodging blows from speedsters when DC speedsters (flash and them) are a lot faster than him or (wonder woman and anybody not part of the speed force) are on par with him almost?
Frieza was faster then goku but goku was winking out everywhere right along with him. Cell was faster then goku but goku was right along with him and if you are on par with them shouldnt you be able to keep up with them. Im glad you brought that up, show me some superman vs wonder woman or superman vs captain marvel or black adam fights with them using amazing speed. I know you can do it, I got faith in you man.
The manga does have narration. High street/low meta have been able to move faster than humans can follow.
So low metas have basically disappeared in front of people for a long period of time. Basically disappear in front of there eyes but they are still there. That is a powerful meta if they did and you truly have to show me this.
