Who is more powerful then brolly in DBZ

Started by Dark-Jaxx12 pages

Originally posted by llagrok
So I'm assuming Raditz is like the fastest character, because he's the only one who's ever caught a bullet? Broly's destructive feats are in the lead obviously but what was so great about his strength? Took him some time to take out a pack of super saiyans.
Master Roshi caught several machinegun bullets, and there are characters factually who are faster than Raditz and have better speed feats.

Well he demolished a cliff by lightly kicking down on it...

And Broly and both his movies are noncanon, and are not connected at all to the series, or any other movie.

As such, neither are the power of the characters.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Master Roshi caught several machinegun bullets, and there are characters factually who are faster than Raditz and have better speed feats.

Well he demolished a cliff by lightly kicking down on it...

And Broly and both his movies are noncanon, and are not connected at all to the series, or any other movie.

As such, neither are the power of the characters.

So we're not accepting Vegeta easily destroying a planet at around 20k power level, because that's uncanon. But we're accepting Broly's feats?

Originally posted by llagrok
So we're not accepting Vegeta easily destroying a planet at around 20k power level, because that's uncanon. But we're accepting Broly's feats?
Well if the anime is taken into account, sure we can.

But Broly is by definition a noncanon character. 😐

He doesn't actually exist in any DB canon but his own.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well if the anime is taken into account, sure we can.

But Broly is by definition a noncanon character. 😐

He doesn't actually exist in any DB canon but his own.

I see what you've been doing here

😖hifty:

Originally posted by llagrok
I see what you've been doing here

😖hifty:

...What? haermm

Broly's power is simply unbelievable, he is in my honest opinion the pinnacle of the DBZ villains canon or non-canon. His feats are still well...unmatched by other villains, and his capabilities are absolutely off the charts, what I find most interesting is that his power just simply continues to grow every time.

However, like ALL super off the wall villains, that is Brolly's weakness as an antagonist, he has the script that ultimately trumps him at the end. So regardless of how uber over the top he is, he would ultimately lose. Given obviously there are characters whom by now have potential to be much more powerful then Broly now (due to the fact that they have had time to continue to grow in power while Broly is already "dead"😉.

To me, the Broly movies which I watched back in 93 when it was first shown in Japan, where arguably some of the most boring DBZ movies ever in existence. Simply for the fact that in these match ups, Broly was simply so significantly more powerful then the Z Fighter Gang that it became ridiculously lopsided.

I mean...Broly just completely dominated Goku and bunch so convincingly that the battle was pathetic to watch. To me, Broly is undisputed, and stands heads and shoulders above everyone else, he is to me, the only antagonist, who "had" he'd of appeared in the actual canon like say after Buu, however had power to continue growing would be able to contend with the most powerful forms Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan would have to offer.

As for the speed of DBZ characters, and some people stating that they couldn't travel FTL speed. I mean, I read the DBZ Mangas way, way, way, way, way, way back in the days when they where only japanese, and within the original japanese mangas of the DBZ.

You had guys like Raditz which dodged Piccolo's Special Beam Canon which was clearly stated at the time to travel at the speed of light. So, it brings me to mind, if someone at this time period such as Raditz was already capable of such feats...how couldn't any of the other DBZ characters (Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Piccolo, etc, etc all come to mind) not achieve it in greater forms by the end of DBZ.

Reasons why in the anime of DBZ especially you have them flying 203948230942809 years is simply for plot reasons, this is not a form of showing that "well, since it took them so many episodes to get to spot, they couldn't fly FTL speed, or obtain".

That's just incorrect, remember, that at the time, the DBZ manga was very new, and the anime wanted to follow the manga, so they would prolong things and add fillers just to stall so the manga could catch up. Flying was one of those prolonged courses that was used within the anime.

Close to the beginning of the DBZ series, characters where moving so fast that even the human eye couldn't catch them. Not to mention, Goku's Instant Transmission puts speed to shame, as again, when reading the japanese manga DBZ of Cell when he first saw Goku utilizing it. Stating that it was Instant, which completely shocked and threw off Cell, so to me, the speed of the DBZ characters by the end is much greater then that of FTL.

I apologize if I kinda went off topic, however at times, it boggles my mind that some people would actually try to "downgrade" DBZ characters...seriously, these are some of the most ridiculous manga characters ever conceived...I mean seriously...Goku fighting ALL of the greatest martial artist from all the universes in the afterlife, and continuing to train to become more powerful...even killing them isn't enough.

Broly>All other Antagonist, not just in feats, but also the mere fact that he's a Saiyan gives him a stronger connection to the main protagonist characters of the series, instead of some alien/creature from outer space or created from some cells or magic or what not.

Do all of your posts have a two paragraph minimum limit?

edit- Do you think Goku could beat Superman?

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Do all of your posts have a two paragraph minimum limit?

edit- Do you think Goku could beat Superman?

1. Yes, I don't like to clog it with a big blob, just my taste of course.

2. Yes, I do, however I won't go beyond that, since this isn't a VS thread and I don't want to turn it into one, especially another Goku vs Superman thread which has been done over a trillion times over already.

Originally posted by JustFrame
1. Yes, I don't like to clog it with a big blob, just my taste of course.

I'm just messin around. It doesn't bother me. It's funny.

2. Yes, I do, however I won't go beyond that, since this isn't a VS thread and I don't want to turn it into one, especially another Goku vs Superman thread which has been done over a trillion times over already.

No, JF.. no0o0o0o0o0o... you were a herald of light in such a dark forum...

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
I'm just messin around. It doesn't bother me. It's funny.

No biggie, I wasn't flipping at your comment either 😄

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
No, JF.. no0o0o0o0o0o... you were a herald of light in such a dark forum...

However again, not a VS thread, and I don't want it to become one. If you think Superman is better, then that's your motto, however I strongly believe Goku is far more potent.

Also, lol, I am the Light and the Dark, YinYang man, that way you can have both pieces of the pie 😉

Goku would be killed in one punch by Superman and it would be on accident.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Goku would be killed in one punch by Superman and it would be on accident.

in most cases, yes:

SM vs goku: superman kills him by blinking.

SM vs goku ss2: eh, still a murder

SM vs goku ss3: SM has to actually try this fight, but still SM wins.

SM vs goku ss4: now this would be a good match.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Master Roshi caught several machinegun bullets, and there are characters factually who are faster than Raditz and have better speed feats.

Well he demolished a cliff by lightly kicking down on it...

And Broly and both his movies are noncanon, and are not connected at all to the series, or any other movie.

As such, neither are the power of the characters.


i thought all broly had was a movie? if all he has is a movie, then all of his powers are noncanon, and there is no point of this thread. but if he has been in or originated in something different than a movie and in that brolys real powers are shown, then we will go with those powers being they stronger or weaker than they are in the movie. so can someone please clarify what broly originated in?

No it would not.

Superman is faster, stronger, and more durable than any version of Goku.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
No it would not.

Superman is faster, stronger, and more durable than any version of Goku.

I would argue this to the core, however it's been done over 23094823094832 times, and yes, I would use the official DBZ Manga, not the Eng trans Manga as the source.

However the faster, I disagree (Superman does not fight at Goku's speed, and IT>Speed), stronger, I can agree Supes has done some crazy stuff, durability, I edge it over the Supes, but Goku's no push over period, energy channeling Goku destroys him by a landslide, intelligence when it comes to fighting, Goku completely and utterly destroys Superman, Goku's weakness is that he's gullible when it doesn't pertain to fighting, Superman's weakness is Kryptonite, even a mere human can ggpo him with that.

Yet again, please, lets not make this another Goku vs Superman fight, I've stated reasons on other forums other this on more then one occasion. This thread pertains to Broly, so keep it at that.

This is not a Superman vs. Goku thread, geez. I don't how how it turned that way, but can we please just drop the subject immediately before a 100 - page - long ridiculous argument occurs?

Well will the Anime Fighters vs. American Superheroes be a good place?

mystic gohan would stomp brolly

Mystic Gohan, SSJ3 Goku, Super Buu (Gohan Absorbed), Vegito, Gogeta, etc.

The fact that a SSJ1 Vegetto was omfgwtfpwning Mystic Buu is enough reason for me to believe he is stronger than Broly.

Heck, Omega Shenron would be strong enough to beat Broly in his peak!
A SSJ3 or SSJ4 Vegetto would turn him into molecules.