Will The Dark Knight beat Titanic's box office?

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Originally posted by Myth
The Dark Knight to get re-released in January for Oscar season: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=48744

Does that total count towards the regular box office numbers? If so, that could help push TDK over Titanic! 💃

All theatre distribution counts.
Glad they're doing it. It shows confidence in their Oscar chances.

Originally posted by Myth
The Dark Knight to get re-released in January for Oscar season: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=48744

Does that total count towards the regular box office numbers? If so, that could help push TDK over Titanic! 💃

I was going to post this..

Yes it does count.That will help with the IMAX figures which TDK has a record for that. Besides since The Dark Knight is what $59 million away from becoming the all time top grossing movie it is feasible to believe that in say 4 to 6 weeks, maybe sooner depending on what this does over the weekend that The Dark Knight could do it.

Originally posted by Myth
The Dark Knight to get re-released in January for Oscar season: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=48744

Does that total count towards the regular box office numbers? If so, that could help push TDK over Titanic! 💃

Yes it's fair!

Titanic did the same thing. So it's fair play! No question about it...TDK will sink the Titanic!

Go Batman!

Batman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Titanic.

Damn, TDK just keeps creeping ever so closely to "Titanic" in the same way that iceberg did. (which then invitably sank it).

And the Halloween season might give it and huge boost, too.

59-Day Total:
$517,792,764

As of today on boxofficemojo.com

Do you have any idea how long it's theatrical run will continue?

That's a good question. It should run all the way through Oct. cause of Halloween.

And I don't see any reason for Warner to stop theatrical showings anytime soon especially with the holiday season coming up. If it could stretch it all the way till Xmas then they may have an upward swing as well, just because of the season.

But anything further than Jan '09 would be a stretch especially if it really dies down hard. Just take it out theatrically, give us a break until spring and release it on dvd.

They're gonna re-release it on Imax during January, anyways...

It may actually surpass Titanic. I didn't believe it will, but it seems plausible.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
That's a good question. It should run all the way through Oct. cause of Halloween.

And I don't see any reason for Warner to stop theatrical showings anytime soon especially with the holiday season coming up. If it could stretch it all the way till Xmas then they may have an upward swing as well, just because of the season.

But anything further than Jan '09 would be a stretch especially if it really dies down hard. Just take it out theatrically, give us a break until spring and release it on dvd.

There's a story going around that The Dark Knight will out on DVD on Dec 16. However if you keep TDK out in theaters until late Ocxtober or early November that is plenty of time for TDK to surpass Titanic's worldwide gross and maybe even its domestic gross as well.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
There's a story going around that The Dark Knight will out on DVD on Dec 16. However if you keep TDK out in theaters until late Ocxtober or early November that is plenty of time for TDK to surpass Titanic's worldwide gross and maybe even its domestic gross as well.

Yea, maybe. But we're looking at coming up with another 80 million. Not a walk in the park especially when it's been a while since just 1 million was made just over the weekend.

But like i said there's the holiday season.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am not sure. I'd assume they would take the inflation of the dollar as a whole which might be different to the change in ticket prices.

No they don't- they only use the change in ticket prices, so the correlation is direct.

Inflation adjusted, TDK is still in 27th place, behind Thunderball, though it will probably make it up to about 25th-ish soon. That still leaves 24 films that more people went to see than TDK- not that TDK has not done very well, but all this must be see in perspective. It will have to work hard to get past number 20 (Phantom Menace).

Having passed Shrek 2 makes it the best performing domestic film of the 21st century, though.

-- All Time Box Office --

1. Titanic - $600,788,188 - 12/19/1997

2. The Dark Knight - $524,474,684 - 07/18/2008

boxofficemojo.com - 9/30/2008

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No they don't- they only use the change in ticket prices, so the correlation is direct.

I don't quite understant. How exactly would that work?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
-- All Time Box Office --

1. Titanic - $600,788,188 - 12/19/1997

2. The Dark Knight - $524,474,684 - 07/18/2008

boxofficemojo.com - 9/30/2008

To be the all time second top grossing film is a true good thing and a great accomplishment..

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't quite understant. How exactly would that work?

They multiply admisisons at the time by the modern day ticket price to get the adjusted value.

(which is why it is hard to get inflation adjusted data on earlier films; the admissions have to be estimations, though they are normally accurate enough)

Dark Knight's all time adjusted (i.e. accurate) position is still 27th.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
They multiply admisisons at the time by the modern day ticket price to get the adjusted value.

(which is why it is hard to get inflation adjusted data on earlier films; the admissions have to be estimations, though they are normally accurate enough)

Dark Knight's all time adjusted (i.e. accurate) position is still 27th.

But that seems close to impossible. Ticket prices aren't all equal for one.

TDK is closing in on the 1 Billion mark World wide.

Also to help clarify things here....look at this charts from Box Office Mojo.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/

It's been adjusted to inflation.

Another factor why Star Wars people have not look is that it remains on top only because it was a PG film and not PG13. So lets get that out of the way. Both Titanic and TDK were PG13 so Star Wars is irrelevant at this point.

Also looking at the charts....no film is going to get near Gone with Wind as far as ticket sales. So we can bury that one once and for all.

Well, if you are going to play THAT game, WD, inflation adjisted, The Dark Knight is still 18 places behind The Exorcist.

Still want to play that card? I'm not even vaguely interested in the comparison with Star Wars, though; I'mm only interested in truth when it comes to claims about this film beating any other. TDK is a very successful film- as I mentioned earlier, the most successful of this century. But that's still something you have to keep in proportion; there are still plenty of films that were more so.

Bardock- that's not really a relevant point, and besides, ticket prices do have an average which is industry tracked. That average is the figure used and it;s a pretty accurare system. And it means that the inflation adjusted figure directly relates to the amount of people that saw the film in question.

What kind of sorcery is this? Are you trying to conjure some spell of confusion on me?

I brought the link with the chart to emphasize your comment on Shrek the third. Which you did not acknowledge that the film is in fact rated PG. Whereas The Dark Knight and Titanic is PG13.....this of course will make a difference.

Truth be told we have been arguing Box Office tickets and brought certain factors *cough* inflation...piracy *cough* but didn't acknowledge a film's rating. Which is also important in the success of sales in tickets.

A film no matter how good it is or how unique it is can be hinder by a rating. All it takes is rating such as NC 17 and theaters will not carry it.

There...take that!

It's too bad TDK didn't get to beat Titanic...maybe next time...

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
What kind of sorcery is this? Are you trying to conjure some spell of confusion on me?

I brought the link with the chart to emphasize your comment on Shrek the third. Which you did not acknowledge that the film is in fact rated PG. Whereas The Dark Knight and Titanic is PG13.....this of course will make a difference.

Truth be told we have been arguing Box Office tickets and brought certain factors *cough* inflation...piracy *cough* but didn't acknowledge a film's rating. Which is also important in the success of sales in tickets.

A film no matter how good it is or how unique it is can be hinder by a rating. All it takes is rating such as NC 17 and theaters will not carry it.

There...take that!

You clearly did not read my post properly then! I explained that The Dark Knight was 18 places behind The Exorcist, which was hardly a PG movie, was it? So your argument that it has not topped the charts because of its rating doesn't hold water either.

Regardless, it is clear now that it will take a re-release for The Dark Knight to achieve any of these milestones. As it stands, it is significantly behind Titanic both domestically and internationally, and on the inflation adjusted chart it is in 26th.

And as noted, the inflation adjusted chart is the only one that really counts.