Thanos vs. Superman Prime (gUaRdIaN)

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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
You mean that Bart needed the help of...What? 5 other Flashes to BFR him? Yeah.

Depowered by a red sun.

Read it again. He just knocked them away then flew into the gang of heroes. Said Flashes were not seen in fight again.

The top scene you are thinking of is an alternate print of the fight in Infinite Crisis, you know, when three Flashes tried to blitz him and SMP knocked them all back with a flurry of punches?

Get your facts straight.

Bart was punching the crap out of Superman Prime on his own before the other Flashes showed up. And my fixing your statements reflects that.

Exactly. So? You think the Flashes BFR'ed him into that red sunlight room directly? Or that they took him to the future, kicked the crap out of him, stripped him of his suit, then stuck him in the room full of red sunlight? Don't bother telling me which scenario was more likely, it appears you've made your mind up.

Never mind. I mixed up the two scenes. In the first Infinite Crisis fight, SMP spun around and ran away. The Flashes were obviously not knocked out, since they came back to BFR him. In the Sinestro Corps War fight, he didn't even spin around or fight or do much of anything, he just ran away from them like a little girl, while stuttering:

And if you think Jay and Wally were knocked out based on that panel, then lulz. Not seeing them again is easily explainable since they also had to deal with the entire Sinestro Corps warring on Earth.

Get your head on straight, fanboy. Bart kicked SMP's ass twice. The first butt-whuppin was interrupted when the Flashes BFRed him, the second time near the conclusion of Infinite Crisis, SMP flew away again like a little girl. Good show.

Thanos never ran from a fight before? Is it really that bad and can you really say Bart beat the crap out of him 😐. Ok we are speaking of Guardian amped by the way.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Thanos never ran from a fight before? Is it really that bad and can you really say Bart beat the crap out of him 😐. Ok we are speaking of Guardian amped by the way.
I never said it was bad. And yea, from what I've seen twice, Bart can and has pummeled Superman Prime, first time, into a BFR, second time, made SMP run away. I never posted my opinion on this fight. I just threw my two cents at, what I deemed to be an extremely jaundiced account of SMP's exploits when concerning Flashes.

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Bart was punching the crap out of Superman Prime on his own before the other Flashes showed up. And my fixing your statements reflects that.

Exactly. So? You think the Flashes BFR'ed him into that red sunlight room directly? Or that they took him to the future, kicked the crap out of him, stripped him of his suit, then stuck him in the room full of red sunlight? Don't bother telling me which scenario was more likely, it appears you've made your mind up.

Never mind. I mixed up the two scenes. In the first Infinite Crisis fight, SMP spun around and ran away. The Flashes were obviously not knocked out, since they came back to BFR him. In the Sinestro Corps War fight, he didn't even spin around or fight or do much of anything, he just ran away from them like a little girl, while stuttering:

And if you think Jay and Wally were knocked out based on that panel, then lulz. Not seeing them again is easily explainable since they also had to deal with the entire Sinestro Corps warring on Earth.

Get your head on straight, fanboy. Bart kicked SMP's ass twice. The first butt-whuppin was interrupted when the Flashes BFRed him, the second time near the conclusion of Infinite Crisis, SMP flew away again like a little girl. Good show.

1. You mean after he already had help with initiating putting SMP into the Speed Force?

2. Kicked the crap out of him? Never happened on panel, and if he lost to a bunch of Flashes...So? Not a feat for Bart, but for all the Flashes that would have done it. Stripped him of his suit? He didn't have his suit at that time genius, for someone who considers himself so smart, you don't seem to know what the hell you are talking about.

3. SMP didn't run away, he knocked the Flashes back when they tried to fight him head on. They couldn't fight him head on. They had to BFR him into the Speed Force.

He knocked them both back plain as friggin day, their punches did not even faze him. But SMP with one attack knocked them both down and then dived into the battallion of heroes. Yeah, they pwned him. 🙄

They were focused on bringing down SMP, the last we ever saw of them was them being knocked away like flies.

Get your head out of Bart's ass fanboy. In the conclusion of IC, Flash was also merged with the entire Speed Force. Context is a motherfvcker.

Fact is, when Wally, Bart and Jay tried to blitz SMP, he rather casually knocked them all back with a flurry of punches.

Onedumbgo has no clue as usually....
*cough* Spectre vs Ganthet thread*cough*.haermm

man, this thread is getting ugly..

anyhow, a few things about that scan.

1.) prime wasn't at full power. not saying it would have mattered, but it's something which should be taken into account.

2.) saying prime ran away from the flash duo is a bit brash. prime said "i d-don't like speedsters" as he was getting punched. he then flys into the group of heroes who were there to engage him [which were right in front of his face, more or less], exclaiming "i don't like any of you".

3.) imo he didn't get his ass kicked by the flashes, by any stretch of the term. in fact, their assault gained them little to nothing.

at any rate, would you expect prime to just sit there and deal with the flashes alone, when he literally had pert-near every hero on DC earth, at his location, ready to fight him? i wouldn't, not even prime is that stupid. when you're fighting dozens of beings, you'd have to be tactically retarded to engage said beings individually, unless you had to.

it should also be noted that the flashes were knocked back/down, by the simple act of prime flying away. meh.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Defeated? You mean stalemated by Bart who had the assistance of 5 Flashes? Both were BFRed. Hell, two of the Flashes, Wally and Jay, were severely fvcked up by sending him into the Speed Force, Wally being absorbed into it and Jay losing it altogether.

And besides, not like this matters, what with the Flashes being leagues above Thanos when it comes to speed.

6 flashes? Are you serious?

I never said Thanos was fast,so your point is?

Prime lost. Thats a fact.

Originally posted by Estacado
Onedumbgo has no clue as usually....
*cough* Spectre vs Ganthet thread*cough*.haermm
he does seem to grasp the situation with clarity while your comment was

onedumbo has no clue as usually...

as usually.... 😂

Originally posted by Galan007
man, this thread is getting ugly..

anyhow, a few things about that scan.

1.) prime wasn't at full power. not saying it would have mattered, but it's something which should be taken into account.

2.) saying prime ran away from the flash duo is a bit brash. prime said "i d-don't like speedsters" as he was getting punched. he then flys into the group of heroes who were there to engage him [which were right in front of his face, more or less], exclaiming "i don't like any of you".

3.) imo he didn't get his ass kicked by the flashes, by any stretch of the term. in fact, their assault gained them little to nothing.

at any rate, would you expect prime to just sit there and deal with the flashes alone, when he literally had pert-near every hero on DC earth, at his location, ready to fight him? i wouldn't, not even prime is that stupid. when you're fighting dozens of beings, you'd have to be tactically retarded to engage said beings individually, unless you had to.

it should also be noted that the flashes were knocked back/down, by the simple act of prime flying away. meh.

1)You are correct he wasnt at full power. But then again he didnt defeat any flashes here so suggesting he could or couldnt is all speculation.

2)Prime obviously feared the flash. Not saying he would run from one every single time,but it clearly looked like he didnt want any at this particular time imo.

3)He lost to the flashes. Thats it.

Originally posted by Estacado
Onedumbgo has no clue as usually....
*cough* Spectre vs Ganthet thread*cough*.haermm
Originally posted by quanchi112
he does seem to grasp the situation with clarity while your comment was

onedumbo has no clue as usually...

as usually.... 😂

Stop.

Thanos loses.

Originally posted by Badabing
Stop.

Thanos loses.

Thanos never loses. 🙂 Ever. 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos never loses. 🙂 Ever. 😉
I won't even ban you. I'll exile you to the PhantDURm Zone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
6 flashes? Are you serious?

I never said Thanos was fast,so your point is?

Prime lost. Thats a fact.

Yes I am serious. It took 6 Flashes to BFR SMP into the Speed Force.

SMP lost to teams of superheroes and 6 Flashes. Wow. TERRIBLE feat, SMP is clearly weak as fvck.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1)You are correct he wasnt at full power. But then again he didnt defeat any flashes here so suggesting he could or couldnt is all speculation.

2)Prime obviously feared the flash. Not saying he would run from one every single time,but it clearly looked like he didnt want any at this particular time imo.

3)He lost to the flashes. Thats it.

1. Only when he isn't blindsided he has been shown to effortlessly knock them back. On-panel.

2. Prime has a slight phobia of Speedsters due to fear of being put in the Speed Force. But when they attacked him in SC, SMP was not injured by any of their attacks and easily knocked them aside by flying forward. All on-panel.

3. He was BFRed by 6 Flashes, three of which were already in the Speed Force, two of which were sent into the Speed Force as well, one of which lost the Speed Force. WOW. SMP is clearly a weakling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1)You are correct he wasnt at full power. But then again he didnt defeat any flashes here so suggesting he could or couldnt is all speculation.
they didn't defeat him either. like i said above, their punches did.... nothing, really.

Originally posted by quanchi112
2)Prime obviously feared the flash. Not saying he would run from one every single time,but it clearly looked like he didnt want any at this particular time imo.
of course he doesn't like speedsters, they gave him one hell of a bad memory when they dumped him in the speedforce during IC. so his 'fear' is quite understandable.

anyhow, it's true that prime flew away from the flashes [whom were knocked back/over just from him taking off], but he flew away from them and immediately engaged the multitude of heroes whom were practically on top of him. it's not like he flew away to some remote location and began weeping in fear. meh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
3)He lost to the flashes. Thats it.
while they may have connected several punches, those punches gained them nothing at all. nothing. said punches acted as little more than an irritant.

so i ask how he "lost" to them?

ohh, and there's also this:

meh.

The only time that could be considered a legitimate loss to a Flash was in IC near the end, when he wasn't at full power, and Flash absorbed the whole Speed Force.

Originally posted by Estacado
Onedumbgo has no clue as usually....
*cough* Spectre vs Ganthet thread*cough*.haermm
Catch Sinestro Corps War much? DC agreed that Spectre's power was powerless against Parallax. Missed that, did you? I sure didn't. Try again. Or as Badabing appears to suggest... don't. Kthxbai.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
The only time that could be considered a legitimate loss to a Flash was in IC near the end, when he wasn't at full power, and Flash absorbed the whole Speed Force.
SMP had his powersuit on. Bart absorbed the Speed Force to travel back in time. Nothing suggested that when he was assaulting SMP, he still had the entire Speed force backing him. In fact, since Bart collapsed and fainted when he came back, that's pretty much exactly not what happened.

We've already had this discussion. You obviously haven't changed your mind, so let's agree to disagree:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=10879964&highlight=dark-jaxx+userid%3A77143#post10879964

You claimed the Flash's made SMP look like a b!tch.

Which was bullshit. Everytime the Flash's tried to attack him when he saw them coming, he easily batted them back and they could not harm him at all.

Bart only lost the Speed Force after SMP was imprisoned, on-panel.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
You claimed the Flash's made SMP look like a b!tch.

Which was bullshit. Everytime the Flash's tried to attack him when he saw them coming, he easily batted them back and they could not harm him at all.

Bart only lost the Speed Force after SMP was imprisoned, on-panel.

I facetiously pointed out that Bart was raping SMP before they were both BFR'ed. I never claimed anything about the Flashes.

Sure didn't work both times when Bart personally assaulted SMP. Twice.

Bart had to use every bit of Speed Force just to travel back in time. As stated by all the Flashes. On-panel. If he had the entire Speed Force when he assaulted SMP, why did he faint on arrival to the present and let Conner Kent die? And please do show me where Bart actively loses the Speed Force within a panel. I'd like to see this. Because the only thing I remember is Bart talking to Jay about how he had already lost the Speed Force in Infinite Crisis' epilogue. You're speculating that Bart had the entire Speed Force in him when he beat on SMP just to inflate SMP's history. Don't kid yourself.