Monarch vs Thanos

Started by Desaad31 pages

I wouldn't say there is absolute evidence that Thanos' 'indestructibility' has been taken away either, for what it's worth. Maybe it has, but I have a feeling it's connected with Oblivion choosing him as his champion, and I see no reason that it would disappear.

Maybe it did maybe it didn't, we'll find out soon enough.

Exactly

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Listen, you can believe what you want I am going to believe what was stated.
Here is the line. (Pg. 23)
"We have Thanos comatose and contained in a mind lock."

You can assume all you want, just like I am, but as I said, I believe that his "indestructibility" has been taken away, so now he can be killed again.

Are u freakin serious? or deliberately trying to be recalcitrant? U quote a line that says " we have Thanos in comatose and contained in a mind lock" and say that ur believing what was stated? U must be using a special computer which reinterprets the text into the language of ur imagination. facepalm

Where in that line does it mention thanos new durability being taken away?....lol maybe reading it again one syllable at a time will help with the comprehension. Ur attempts to equate my arguments with urs and generalize them as "assumptions" are farcical. Im taking everything that was displayed on panel without projecting anything onto it. If it wasnt mentioned or shown that his durability was taken away, then it wasnt taken away until further notice. period. No faulty rationalizations needed.

Ur statement at the end is equivalent to saying "I know there is nothing to support it but i choose to believe it anyway"

Originally posted by Naija boy
Are u freakin serious? or deliberately trying to be recalcitrant? U quote a line that says " we have Thanos in comatose and contained in a mind lock" and say that ur believing what was stated? U must be using a special computer which reinterprets the text into the language of ur imagination. facepalm

Where in that line does it mention thanos new durability being taken away?....lol maybe reading it again one syllable at a time will help with the comprehension. Ur attempts to equate my arguments with urs and generalize them as "assumptions" are farcical. Im taking everything that was displayed on panel without projecting anything onto it. If it wasnt mentioned or shown that his durability was taken away, then it wasnt taken away until further notice. period. No faulty rationalizations needed.

Ur statement at the end is equivalent to saying "I know there is nothing to support it but i choose to believe it anyway"


Who the hell is talking about his Durability? I am talking about his indestructibility as in, he can't die or get hurt. As of now, he got hurt, and he is in a coma. Whether that is good enough for you is not my problem. Take it as you will, Idc

Originally posted by Desaad
I wouldn't say there is absolute evidence that Thanos' 'indestructibility' has been taken away either, for what it's worth. Maybe it has, but I have a feeling it's connected with Oblivion choosing him as his champion, and I see no reason that it would disappear.

Maybe it did maybe it didn't, we'll find out soon enough.

As far as we know now, his "indestructability" wasnt taken away as such a thing was not shown nor mentioned.

Originally posted by Naija boy
As far as we know now, his "indestructability" wasnt taken away as such a thing was not shown nor mentioned.

As of now, he seems to be in a coma and in a mind-lock. He also got his ass handed to him. It's good enough for me. We will see in the future issues which one of us is right

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Who the hell is talking about his Durability? I am talking about his indestructibility as in, he can't die or get hurt. As of now, he got hurt, and he is in a coma. Whether that is good enough for you is not my problem. Take it as you will, Idc

*Sigh* whats wrong with people these days....If u bothered to read what i wrote u would see that i used the terms "durability" and "indestructability" interchangeably.......or to make it even easier for u, to mean the same thing. Yes he got hurt and is in a coma. All that indicates is that his "indestructability" (which was conferred on him by Gamora who is not an all knowing omniscient third party) has limits. What those are we do not know yet i.e maybe he can be hurt but not totally destroyed, maybe he can be koed with enough force but not physically damaged etc). Ur imagination is not a substitute for on panel illustration. end of story. 🙂

Originally posted by Naija boy
What in the world? That makes no sense whatsoever. Im not assuming anything. Im taking everything on panel as it was seen until further notice. Firstly, Thanos supposed indestructability was never tied to his mind state on panel. That is ur own rationalization.

To be fair, though, the writers did seem to imply that both his newfound indestructibility and mental protections were the product of some outside force acting upon Thanos. So I could see how one would conclude that they are inter-related.

It's definitely conjecture, but it has a basis in the story itself.

Originally posted by Desaad
To be fair, though, the writers did seem to imply that both his newfound indestructibility and mental protections were the product of some outside force acting upon Thanos. So I could see how one would conclude that they are inter-related.

It's definitely conjecture, but it has a basis in the story itself.

Its an outside possiblity which could be rationalized. however if we go into the realm of speculative reasoning then numerous possibilites could be rationalized as well. Until further revelations are given to us then its what is actually illustrated and mentioned on panel that takes precedence. Thats what im saying.

A cosmic cube owned him and this is somehow a low feat LOL

Originally posted by Naija boy
Its an outside possiblity which could be rationalized. however if we go into the realm of speculative reasoning then numerous possibilites could be rationalized as well. Until further revelations are given to us then its what is actually illustrated and mentioned on panel that takes precedence. Thats what im saying.

Nothing definitive has been said either way on panel, is what I'm saying. Your interpretation is no more valid than any other.

I'm comfortable with either conclusion, but until another issue comes out it's all supposition.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
A cosmic cube owned him and this is somehow a low feat LOL

It's the specifics of the issue that make it a low showing overall, I think. HIs durability showing was fine, but he was absolutely ineffective in seriously injuring any of the Guardians -- even Rocket Raccoon -- save for Phyla who he may or may not have killed with a sucker shot while she was unprepared.

Other than that, Groot was giving him trouble, Drax was keeping him busy, Moondragon was stopping him with her shields, Vance Astro blocked a charged hit with his shield(!), random gunfire was causing him to scream, and the smaller group of guardians had apparently kept him contained for a while.

Offensively, this was a poor showing for Thanos. In terms of durability, it was fine, but with the added caveat that he seems to have been upgraded in that regard.

Originally posted by Desaad
Nothing definitive has been said either way on panel, is what I'm saying. Your interpretation is no more valid than any other.

I'm comfortable with either conclusion, but until another issue comes out it's all supposition.

Actually my interpretation is more valid since it doesnt involve projecting anything onto what was illustrated in the panel.

No, it's not. Your interpretation assumes that Thanos' telepathic blockers and physical indestructibility are interdependent, which was never once stated. It could be that the mental protections were based on consciousness where as the physical were not, and that's as valid an interpretation as any.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
A cosmic cube owned him and this is somehow a low feat LOL

Who is talking about a low feat? We are talking about his indestructibility as in he can't die or whatever. Naija is claiming Thanos can't die, but say otherwise

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Who is talking about a low feat? We are talking about his indestructibility as in he can't die or whatever. Naija is claiming Thanos can't die, but say otherwise

Whoa what? I am not claiming that Thanos cant die at all.....just go reread my arguments please cuz u are clearly confused.

Originally posted by Blanket
Considering a GL destroyed his head piece?

Well, Thanos just took a Cosmic Cube blast, and seems like that didn't put him down... with no shields, and it being a surprise attack...


A blast that wasnt even the size of a nuke

It had no reason to be able to end thanos but it did hurt him a bit

And didnt the gl ring just open his face piece not actually harm anything

Originally posted by Desaad
No, it's not. Your interpretation assumes that Thanos' telepathic blockers and physical indestructibility are interdependent, which was never once stated. It could be that the mental protections were based on consciousness where as the physical were not, and that's as valid an interpretation as any.

*sigh*. Not at all. It seems u have a total misunderstanding of what im saying. My interpretation considers both thanos telepathic inhibitions and his apparent physical upgrade in entirely seperate dimensions. The burden of proof is on those that say they are tied to one another to prove it as this interdependant relationship was never indicated.............

Originally posted by Naija boy
Whoa what? I am not claiming that Thanos cant die at all.....thats just unfounded.

Indestructible...
http://www.google.com/dictionary?aq=f&langpair=en|en&hl=en&q=indestructible

As in cannot be destroyed. I never said that he lost his durability. I just said that he can die now, and is no longer under the enchantment that made him truly indestructible. He still has his old level durability/invulnerability.