Originally posted by Lestov16
So if Quan didn't argue against you in the Van Zan vs McClane thread, you would have still made the Woodchipper thread, right? 😆
the other topic brought van zan's lack of feats into question. more importantly, he was proven to be irrational and suicidal. i chose to explore this characteristic in a more appropriate premise, however silly. i could have just as easily pit him against a bottle of sleeping pills and a quart of single malt.
but yes this too would be considered "trolling quanchi" since any topic he doesnt find palatable is of course a direct slight to him.
anyway, impediment: if you choose to adopt this logic then i hope you will be just and opt to close every one of quanchi's silly spite threads. after all i think we can all agree that khan vs yoda and khan vs superman are far sillier. i wont go so far as to say they were posted with the sole intent of trolling me, because im not a self important drama queen.
Originally posted by Lestov16
So if Quan didn't argue against you in the Van Zan vs McClane thread, you would have still made the Woodchipper thread, right? 😆
No, it's not because Quan opposed them in that thread, it was the way he opposes anyone and everyone in any thread, even people who side with him originally. I would assume Focus just wanted to see just how deep that rabbit hole went, and lo and behold, he and the others found that hole of butthurt bottomless, endless....
But Quan is completely justified to troll in the Woodchipper thread because it's legit troll thread aimed at him. What I'm saying is why should Quan stop trolling when you guys just stoop to his levels anyway to spite him, rather than being the better man and just putting him on ignore if he bothers people that much?
Originally posted by Lestov16
So if Quan didn't argue against you in the Van Zan vs McClane thread, you would have still made the Woodchipper thread, right? 😆
Always with the blame reversal.
Actually he argued against me, not Focus, in that thread.
So your white knighting here is inappropriate.
Quanchi's history goes back way further than that thread.
I'm not surprised people reacted the way they did to his campaign.
Originally posted by Lestov16
But Quan is completely justified to troll in the Woodchipper thread because it's legit troll thread aimed at him. What I'm saying is why should Quan stop trolling when you guys just stoop to his levels anyway to spite him, rather than being the better man and just putting him on ignore if he bothers people that much?
I hardly posted in the woodchip thread. I even tried numerous times to get him to debate decently, and he still fell back to his usual routines and crass habbits. As I said before, he gets everything he deserves.
The woodchipper thread, the moment Quan began to post in it, ceased being a troll thread of any sort, and became a monument to his insanity.
Originally posted by Lestov16Rubbish. And what does that say about you 20+ McClane troll threads? Are you not 20x more guilty by your own reckoning?
But Quan is completely justified to troll in the Woodchipper thread because it's legit troll thread aimed at him.
What I'm saying is why should Quan stop trolling when you guys just stoop to his levels anyway to spite him, rather than being the better man and just putting him on ignore if he bothers people that much?
Doesn't seem like much moving on is being done.
Sounds like you're butthurtedly arguing with a mod decision and trying to 'hit back'/srpead blame angrily.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Rubbish. And what does that say about you 20+ McClane troll threads? Are you not 20x more guilty by your own reckoning?
Oh yes. "John McClane vs Olympus Has Fallen". What a horrific spite thread! How evil must I be to make such putrid filth?
😆 Get over yourself, bud. I'm objective. I put McClane in threads if he serves as a good opponent in them.
Unlike you, Mr. "Jack Bauer vs Robocop". Now that most certainly wasn't a spite thread, right? Bauer definitely had a chance there? 😆
Originally posted by Lestov16
Oh yes. "John McClane vs Olympus Has Fallen". What a horrific spite thread! How evil must I be to make such putrid filth?😆 Get over yourself, bud. I'm objective. I put McClane in threads if he serves as a good opponent in them.
Unlike you, Mr. "Jack Bauer vs Robocop". Now that most certainly wasn't a spite thread, right? Bauer definitely had a chance there? 😆
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Indeed, this is not moving on. Drop it folks- and indeed, the trolling thing can swing both ways, so best just to ignore this whole issue now.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Oh yes. "John McClane vs Olympus Has Fallen". What a horrific spite thread! How evil must I be to make such putrid filth?😆 Get over yourself, bud. I'm objective. I put McClane in threads if he serves as a good opponent in them.
Unlike you, Mr. "Jack Bauer vs Robocop". Now that most certainly wasn't a spite thread, right? Bauer definitely had a chance there? 😆
OMG
As I said it was the constant troll campaign you led with 20 odd more.
So what if the odd thread you dont like is made...? At least its not 20 or so in a protracted deliberate campaign.
Anyways...
The subject is dropped still despite your obvious dragging it out.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Oh yes. "John McClane vs Olympus Has Fallen". What a horrific spite thread! How evil must I be to make such putrid filth?😆 Get over yourself, bud. I'm objective. I put McClane in threads if he serves as a good opponent in them.
Unlike you, Mr. "Jack Bauer vs Robocop". Now that most certainly wasn't a spite thread, right? Bauer definitely had a chance there? 😆
Hey look dude, I actually had my own rounds with Focus and Girth in the Unicron vs the Willis clones thread, and, while I now believe they were pulling my leg with that one to get a rise out of me (Which, sadly probably worked) I don't believe now was a serious thread. And we never got personal in the multiple dozens of pages there.
With Quan, each debate rapidly degenerated into personal issues because, unfortunately, Quan is a circular debater, and one that attempts to cover up this deficiency with distraction tactics to divert attention from the topic at hand. these diversion tactics usually involve personal insults and logical fallacies that end up making him look like a colossal donkey clown.
Anyyways, that about sums up my opinion of the entire fiasco, we now return to the regularly scheduled vs matches, and usual off topic discussions in this thread.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Hey look dude, I actually had my own rounds with Focus and Girth in the Unicron vs the Willis clones thread, and, while I now believe they were pulling my leg with that one to get a rise out of me (Which, sadly probably worked) I don't believe now was a serious thread. And we never got personal in the multiple dozens of pages there.
it was actually a serious thread. i thought you were pulling my leg by gimping the exosuits. at least i hoped you were.
Indeed. My original McClane vs Unicron was the leg puller, if anything.
Was so bored of empty accusations of bias that I decided to show everyone that I wasn't afraid to make a thread in which McClane could be killed. I was right too, about my suspecting that I'd be literally raged at for not making whom I saw as winning clear, as the pavlovian salivation and need for 'win'/nose rubbing ( 🙄 ) was so desperate in one or two posters that it would turn into one or two unnamed posters yelling for 60 pages not getting that I was laughing at their bias accusation and getting them to reveal their stalkertroll agenda.
I think Focus' thread was more of a serious debate.
Well I hope that clears that up for you.
Moving on...
Really? Let's walk through them:
Jack Bauer vs John McClane- Not a troll thread because it's a fair match
John McClane vs Indiana Jones- Not a troll thread because it's a fair match
John McClane vs Voldemort- Fair match (based on quickdraw, which can be argued for both characters)
John McClane vs Inspector Tequila- Fair match, as both have insane gun feats
John McClane vs John Triton (The Marine)- Fair match. Both tank explosions and stop criminals by snapping their neck with a chain.
John McClane vs Nathan Drake- Fair match
John McClane runs the 24 Gauntlet- Fair match
John McClane vs Air Force One- Fair match
Jack Reacher vs John McClane- Fair match
John McClane vs Cameron Poe- Fair match, even by your admission
Jack Bauer vs John McClane (AVF)- Sadako ignored feats and trolled the thread into closing
As far as my McClane spite threads, which I will admit guilt of a few:
John McClane vs Bone (Blood and Bone)- Made in response to Sadako's trolling claims that McClane is immune to bone snaps
John McClane vs Mary Poppins- Made in response to Sadako's Van Zan vs Marry Poppins troll thread.
John McClane vs Bane- Fair match, since Sadako stated in a prior thread that McClane could take Bane H2H
John McClane vs Osmosis Jones- I'll admit this was a troll thread, but it's 6 posts long, rather than 2,500+.
John McClane vs Jesus Christ- Made in response to Sadako's trolling claims that McClane had divine protection
John McClane vs Eli (Book of Eli)- Made in response to Sadako's trolling claims that McClane had divine protection
John McClane vs Reign of Fire- Fair match, especially if one claims that McClane is better than Van Zan
Dude. Lies and blame reversal isnt gonna work.
(Except if further proving your angry butthurt to everyone is your aim, if so, well done on that.)
Van Zan the featless man, who had NO damage feats in his one fight despite having 5 of his hardest punches delivered against a guardless opponent (AND a headbutt!!!!!!!); against McClane who especially considering 5 is nigh on indestructable and has a body count way in excess of Van Zan's (except Mcclanes were deliberate and were actual enemies he killed..not allies)
The very mentioning of that thread in your "genuine thread" self-exhonoration/whitewashing attempt list, is a trolling.
I dont relish having to reply to such plies of inaccurate filthy bare faced lies, and yes I can see you ARE trying to deliberately last word drag this out, but thats mine, and its final and true. The threads are their own evidence.
Feel free to listen to Ush at any time now.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
it was actually a serious thread. i thought you were pulling my leg by gimping the exosuits. at least i hoped you were.
I wasn't trying to gimp the suits, I was trying to explain a few things about them. (Which, admittedly I probably could have done better... 😮 )
It's kina hard to get a feel for them though, they were a part of the 80s toon, which I love but I also know they were woefully inconsistent.
And out of the movie, and the post movie seasons, we have a total of about 3 showings for the suits. The movie itself, 1 season 3 episode (Which I unfortunately forget the name of) and the modded version from the headmasters season 4 (3 episodes). ironically enough, the headmaster Daniel one had the best feats, but was also the most ludicrous for several reasons. 😛