Off Topic Circle Jerk

Yes, and my threesoms usually involve Milla Jovovich and Bellatrix.......point?

Attention! I'm starting to put together a martial artist ranking thread similar to the omne in the comic books forum. Opinions?

Go for it. Any kind of collective idea for threads can do nothing except help void confusion, if you ask me. All I ask is that people share unanimous views so as not to seem biased.

We've already formed the thread. No one seems to agree on whether Matrix characters have skill or is just a video game. 🙄

Well...................Matrix characters are a touchy subject since the power/abilities of said characters are all subjective.

I will allow Matrix fights to continue, since I am fair and un-biased. However, I have to voice my disdain since I feel Matrix character fights to be very one-sided.

What is your position on whether or not they posess real martial arts skill?

That, sir, is all in the opinion of the posters. That's why we have debates. 😉.

There shouldn't be a problem with using Matrix characters, as we go by the "feats on film" and making a fictional neutral fighting arena were both characters get full use of their powers is common.

So Morpheus with his super strength, speed, durability and knowledge of martial arts Vs. the FF4 in an arena is plausible. If Morpheus never wished anyone away in the film, then he can't do it in the arena etc.

Really, I am awesome.

Originally posted by Impediment
That, sir, is all in the opinion of the posters. That's why we have debates. 😉.

Originally posted by Robtard
There shouldn't be a problem with using Matrix characters, as we go by the "feats on film" and making a fictional neutral fighting arena were both characters get full use of their powers is common.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Are you under the belief that individuals like Morpheus, Neo, and Trinity posess true martial arts skill or are you like Rogue Jedi and feel there in a video game and posess none.

Not sure what you're asking exactly.

But from a movie feats standpoint, they're all highly skilled (due to being programmed); that's how it would translate into these Vs fights.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
What is your position on whether or not they posess real martial arts skill?

If they are in the Matrix, then all Matrix-related abilities stand as is. While their own selves do not, in fact, possess martial arts skills, the residual self images do.

Originally posted by Impediment
Well...................Matrix characters are a touchy subject since the power/abilities of said characters are all subjective.

I will allow Matrix fights to continue, since I am fair and un-biased. However, I have to voice my disdain since I feel Matrix character fights to be very one-sided.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure what you're asking exactly.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Not necisarilly a vs thread. In my Martial Arts Rankings thread some posters are under the opinion that the Matrix characters aren't skilled, they're in a video game. They use Neo's fight with Bane in the real world as evidence of this.

Where was Neo's mad martial arts skills when he was blinded? Non existent. They are correct, while not jacked into the matrix, Trinity, Neo, morpheus and the others are you and I, normal people.

Yet in the Martial Arts Rankings thread you and those who share your idea reject them being put high up in tier.

Well, I'll tell you why I do so, it's because all others are skilled martial artists whereever they are, all day, every day, 24/7. They don't have to be plugged int a big ass computer to become badass. This is where the video game analogy comes into play.

Think about it, lets say Nightcrawler teleports onto Morpheus's ship and wants to kill everyone aboard. What's to stop him? Nothing. It will be easy as pie for him, because he wont be fighting them in the matrix, he will be fighting them in the real world, and in the real world, they are average Joes.

But in here we should judge them when they use there skill wherever it may be because that's what we go by in these threads. How many threads do you see where it stipulates characters w/o there Matrix attributes, skills, and abilities?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Not necisarilly a vs thread. In my Martial Arts Rankings thread some posters are under the opinion that the Matrix characters aren't skilled, they're in a video game. They use Neo's fight with Bane in the real world as evidence of this.

That is true, but it stands to reason that Neo would remember all he's learned in the Matrix, outside of it; just that his weak and frail body isn't capable of performing the moves he knows in his head.

Originally posted by Robtard
That is true, but it stands to reason that Neo would remember all he's learned in the Matrix, outside of it; just that his weak and frail body isn't capable of performing the moves he knows in his head.

Originally posted by Robtard
There shouldn't be a problem with using Matrix characters, as we go by the "feats on film" and making a fictional neutral fighting arena were both characters get full use of their powers is common.

So Morpheus with his super strength, speed, durability and knowledge of martial arts Vs. the FF4 in an arena is plausible. If Morpheus never wished anyone away in the film, then he can't do it in the arena etc.

Really, I am awesome.

That sounds remarkably similar to what I said.